Scion FR-S Manager hopes to introduce new FR-S variant every year
 

Goooooooooood stuff...

sounds like the Release series'

just give me the FR-S GT-R TRD Type R V-Spec NUR edition already.

Where do i place deposit?

In other words, they want people to "wait" to see if the next version is better than the one they could buy today. I hate when companies do that... Planned Obsolescence.

I would bet the first few special editions would be bolt on type stuff and cosmetics. I doubt a super/turbo charged version is within a cpl years. I would also bet on a topless version. As long as they sell they will make newer versions, I hope its a huge success so we have tons of choice in a bout 4-5 years. They do seem to be saying the right things and hinting at more to keep the hype up. They have to get those sales from people who just see the car and say "cool I want one of those". They get those people to buy and the car nuts like us will be happy campers.

Of course it doesn't always [usually?] go to plan. It's likely we won't know which version will be the best for our needs until that lot is sold out, thrashed, and in the junkyard. Most of us can't just go and buy every iteration [or want to], so IMO Toyota has to tread lightly not to piss off their early FR-S adopters or risk "doing a MINI", where the model changes so much through the years that all the early adopters are alienated and end up shopping elsewhere [coughMecough].

A smart way to go about it is to release variants that are non-threatening to early FR-S owners. First, come out with a factory supercharged model [for example]. Then, release a convertible. Then, do a couple special trim package models that are mainly aesthetic. At the end of the chassis run [years from now, when early adopters are becoming interested in buying again], do a full-on factory TRD model that throws the performance catalog at it.

That's my 2 pence.

they're never going to be able to justify "new FR-S on a yearly basis" if they're only selling 3-4k a year. this needs to be a volume car, not on the level but not far behind the Mustang and Camaro.

I agree, I also think Release series type of variants would be a good way to introduce a fresh trim without upsetting previous buyers. You get a unique color, maybe different interior trim, but overall same performance.

I think this car will sell very well in other parts of the world that aren't NA where size rules all with massive 5 lane highways that go straight forever

I could see them doing a lot of special editions in Japan or Europe but I don't expect more than Release Series with special paint and bolt ons

SC version in a couple years maybe and drop top version in say 2 years or less depending on how well the coupe does

MINI has some of the most loyal customers of any car brand.

you'd be surprised but those numbers are starting to change, even if the F series is still the best selling vehicle in the country. if gas hits $5/gallon i suspect that might change, too.

true but that won't change soon enough cause Camaro sells very well for a 3,750lbs land boat

Yeah I'm kind of looking forward to what a Release Series for the FR-S will look like.

Might be exciting times.

Jeff

Its now rumored that the FR-S might get up to 34 MPG on the highway!

$20 bucks says RS 1.0 will be a Panda Scheme.

if it is i will buy it because well lets face it i love initial D

.... what if it's like the 7th... then it's 7 years.. I don't think I want to wait that long.

This is another Scion concept I just don't understand.. they are basically saying "Don't buy the car yet. Wait for the next one. Which will come out if there is enough sales and demand. Errr.. uhmmm.. doh!"

Improving the car year over year is one thing, releasing fancy models every year that are different from the prior years fancy model just doesn't make sense to me.

Here is what is going to happen.....

"Hey You guys! I just came back from a SCION Dealer the RS FRS SUPER! DUPER! Number 1 edition is panda color and has....Push Start"

PROFIT.

Scion=Wins

/wrist.

Jack Hollis is watching you from his Temple of DOOM laughing..."Freaking Really Sweet!"

2.0 has... Heated seats added...

man they're really out to get us..

nah man they get it. it's scions way of getting around their business model and doing trim levels. the Release series is just a higher trim model that only comes in one badass color.

Adding special versions isn't planned obsolescence. In fact, it is the complete opposite because it keeps an old model viable for a little longer instead of doing a complete redesign sooner.

even with this news, im still buyin first year... im pretty sure a lot of people are

Click the link I put in my post, you'll learn what it means.

if this is true i'll be pissed!

They have GOT to make a "Heritage" Edition!! Perhaps a panda paint-scheme one! and one with Rear lights similar to those of the 2000GT and other cosmetic "heritage" things! THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! :D

+4123 !

this would be an idiotic idea. the GT-R is a legit supercar and it has to stay competitive year after year. but this car? no way. all it would do is alienate the early adopters. instead they should finally offer TRD or Modellista aftermarket parts at a reasonable price. that should be enough to keep things interesting.

as for the Release series cars? unique colors, body kits, wheels, and some interior features not easily added can make those cars unique. but the performance bits? they should be available to everyone at a reasonable price.

how many of these things do they want me to buy?

i will say if they offer that tC R.S yellow as a color i may be shit out of luck

Why would I buy the first year model knowing that in 8months time they will release one that is better!?

Yeah, I know exactly what it means. The first model year car isn't unusable after the "special editions*" come out. They aren't being put out to get early adopters to trade in for a newer one. They are being put out there to maintain interest as the model ages.

You say it like updating through the life of the model isn't common practice in the automotive industry. IMO, planned obsolescence is when Ford refreshed the Mustang and didn't offer the 5.0 and new 3.7 until the 2nd year of the refresh.

*This is assuming the special editions are suspension, interior, and exterior mods and not major powertrain upgrades.

All the more reason to show off your first gen beauty 10 years down the line :P

"Fuel economy: above 40mpg" Telegraph
"40.9mpg (est, combined)" Autocar online
42mpg on the combined cycle * *top gear

are you just making up 34?

there are all ways going to be the people that wait for the "next one" .. i will buy the 1st gen and trade it in when they come out with the next one i want, ie supercharged.. so what if there is going to be something better next year?.. there all ways is.

while you wait i will play

Exactly!

For example, apple refreshes almost their entire product line once a year. If one was to hold off on purchasing an apple product because they know a refresh or new model is coming out next year, then there will never be a good time to buy one.

Just buy an FR-S/BRZ/86 when you're ready or capable, and enjoy the hell out of it. Keep looking at the horizon fearing what may be released next, and you'll never get to enjoy one.

once you drive off the lot, it's a used scion. you will take a huge hit financially. if you're mark zuckerberg, then more power to you and your money. but for the rest of us, i'd rather buy a car and not have to feel like it's obsolete one week later, when you read on the internet all the cool stuff next years car gets...

go ask a 2010 mustang GT owner how he feels... or any GT-R owner... or that one lucky guy that bought a 911 GT3 RS and the next day they announced the GT3 RS 4.0... :mad0260:

UK gallons are not US gallons.

agreed

however in my case, I may just end up buying another if i like it enough

ah well I did intend on buying a BRZ sti eventually, so why not add an RS FRS?

That just sounds weird FRS RS 1.0 :D

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“Some will have Toyota performance parts from, say, TRD (Toyota Racing Development) — suspension, tires, wheels, etc. Others will be very different from that.”

Given that Subaru has made its performance intentions clearly known with the BRZ STI Concept at this year’s 2011 Los Angeles Auto Show, and that a company insider revealed there is a turbocharged FA20 mill in the pipeline, it makes sense for Toyota to pursue its individual avenues of performance and style. Granted, it’s still unclear whether any of these variants will head to North America, so don’t hold your breath for that 300-horse FR-S or luxury-focused Modellista just yet.

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Originally Posted by nixeighty6 (Post 96967) there are all ways going to be the people that wait for the "next one" .. i will buy the 1st gen and trade it in when they come out with the next one i want, ie supercharged.. so what if there is going to be something better next year?.. there all ways is.

Given that this thing is a Scion for US/Canada, there is a high possibility we'll get screwed again! ;)

jesus.. zuckerbrg.. really? "huge hit finalcially ." its a car, im not buying enron stock

so how do you feel with your evo mr-t? that car is a prime example of what your hating on. haha.. i bet you love every day you drive it and say "god i love my car" or do you have buyers remorse and check kbb daily to see how your investment is doing?

Dude I have heard 29 MPG up to 34 MPG...just saying.

I am not making anything up.