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Liftcontrol 12-08-2011 06:35 PM

Weight saving measures?
 
Since the main strength of the BRZ/FRS is really being light with great handling, reducing weight further would only improve upon the handling, braking and overall performance.

How much weight can you save by removing the spare tire /jack etc. and replacing the battery with a dry cell light Odyssey battery, removing the rear seats and using light weight 16" wheels?

Dark 12-08-2011 06:51 PM

40-60lb?

tranzformer 12-08-2011 06:52 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ghlight=Weight

:search:

DuMa 12-08-2011 06:52 PM

50-80lbs. might as well delete the AC.
and i find it funny that this car needs a 8 speaker stereo system. remove 4 of those speakers and the wiring.

old greg 12-08-2011 06:52 PM

You could probably save at least 10 lbs by searching first.

:search:

suprachica79 12-08-2011 06:54 PM

Not to go off topic but OP, does it say you drive an 09 GTR and a 12 optima? Did I read that correctly? Does not compute.

RRnold 12-08-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by old greg (Post 93918)
You could probably save at least 10 lbs by searching first.

:search:

:lol::clap:

KidWonder 12-08-2011 07:18 PM

Yea I agree. If you own a freaking GT-R you should somewhat already know about weigh savings!

Navi 12-09-2011 12:08 PM

How much do you weigh yourself?

WolfpackS2k 12-09-2011 12:41 PM

A good quality stainless steel exhaust system could shave off 20lbs. Even more if you went full titanium and/or replaced the exhaust headers with stainless steel pieces. Lightweight wheels could easily save you 5lbs per corner.

Levi 12-09-2011 01:30 PM

I think I'll get it under 1100 kg. I'll remove everything inside except dash and door panels. No navi, no A/C, lightweight rims, exhaust, CF roof. 1000 kg if no roll cage.

Longhorn248 12-09-2011 03:09 PM

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How much do you weigh yourself?

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NorCalRider 12-09-2011 03:18 PM

LOL

Liftcontrol 12-09-2011 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by suprachica79 (Post 93920)
Not to go off topic but OP, does it say you drive an 09 GTR and a 12 optima? Did I read that correctly? Does not compute.

What does not compute?:thumbup:
The GTR is for fun weekends; the Optima SX Turbo is a great daily driver and the FJ is a about as good as it gets for a 4 wheel drive sporting SUV.

Midnight Run 12-09-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Navi (Post 94419)
How much do you weigh yourself?

hahahah :happy0180::thanks:

Longhorn248 12-09-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Liftcontrol (Post 94663)
What does not compute?:thumbup:
The GTR is for fun weekends; the Optima SX Turbo is a great daily driver and the FJ is a about as good as it gets for a 4 wheel drive sporting SUV.


Looks slow ;)

ahausheer 12-09-2011 04:57 PM

My f-ing spare tire weights a solid 30 pounds. Man that thing is heavy and its not even a full size spare.

tripjammer 12-09-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 94689)
My f-ing spare tire weights a solid 30 pounds. Man that thing is heavy and its not even a full size spare.


I like how you guys are trying to get below 2600 pounds in the FRS...How low can you go?

Midnight Run 12-09-2011 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 94687)
Looks slow ;)

:lol:

Liftcontrol 12-09-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 94689)
My f-ing spare tire weights a solid 30 pounds. Man that thing is heavy and its not even a full size spare.

I used to own a 1994 NSX; I removed the spare, jack, engine cover, stereo system, speakers [14lbs for each of the door speakers and 12 lbs for the one from the passenger footwell!!], replaced the battery with an Odyssey [16 lbs] and on days when I felt like it, I even removed the passenger seat [50lbs]....for a total of about 110 lbs. So that the curb weight was just about 3000 lbs.

You have to remember one thing. In a car that is already light, removing every lb has a much greater percentage decrease in weight than in a car that is heavy. That is why the FRS, which is already very light, any few lbs of weight decrease will make a very significant change in acceleration, braking and turning. Top speed is not affected much if any.

I loved that NSX and should have never sold it. It was a much more fun driver than the GTR. That is why I am so excited about the FRS. It should be a FUN car.

WolfpackS2k 12-09-2011 05:24 PM

You could save more weight by replacing the factory seats with some aftermarket recaros. Maybe 15-20lbs per seat?

As an aside I do NOT like the way those headrests cant forward so much. Is that going to be an issue when you're wearing a helmet?

ryude 12-09-2011 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k (Post 94713)
You could save more weight by replacing the factory seats with some aftermarket recaros. Maybe 15-20lbs per seat?

As an aside I do NOT like the way those headrests cant forward so much. Is that going to be an issue when you're wearing a helmet?

The headrests are adjustable and a few reviews said they don't jut into your head.

WolfpackS2k 12-09-2011 05:33 PM

Alright I hope so, b/c I have a big head!:thumbup:

I don't know why all these headrest designs of late have the headrest pointed so far forward. If people are too stupid to properly adjust the headrest themselves then if they suffer any soft of head injury as a result they're probably not losing too much computing capacity:laughabove:

tripjammer 12-09-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Liftcontrol (Post 94711)
I used to own a 1994 NSX; I removed the spare, jack, engine cover, stereo system, speakers [14lbs for each of the door speakers and 12 lbs for the one from the passenger footwell!!], replaced the battery with an Odyssey [16 lbs] and on days when I felt like it, I even removed the passenger seat [50lbs]....for a total of about 110 lbs. So that the curb weight was just about 3000 lbs.

You have to remember one thing. In a car that is already light, removing every lb has a much greater percentage decrease in weight than in a car that is heavy. That is why the FRS, which is already very light, any few lbs of weight decrease will make a very significant change in acceleration, braking and turning. Top speed is not affected much if any.

I loved that NSX and should have never sold it. It was a much more fun driver than the GTR. That is why I am so excited about the FRS. It should be a FUN car.

Damn you had a NSX and you have a GTR?

U da man dawg!

Did you ever have a Supra Twin Turbo?

Liftcontrol 12-09-2011 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 94731)
Damn you had a NSX and you have a GTR?

U da man dawg!

Did you ever have a Supra Twin Turbo?

Actually I had a white 1994 Supra TT !!
That thing was a straight line machine. I got more tickets in that car than all others put together. Sometimes the cops would stop me for any excuse in the world, like you need to put front license plates on or just to check my license and insurance and crap like that.

The Manual FRS gear stick looks almost identical to the Supra's where you had to lift the ring to put the car in reverse.

I am going to have to dig up some pictures of the Supra, it was a while ago.

I am a Japanese sports car junkie. Other than the RX7, I have had all the Japanese sports car including the Miata and the Honda S2000.

The Miata and the S2000 have the best manuals in the business by far. The S2000 is great for track but on the every day drive it seriously needs more low end torque [hell needs more torque period]. I used to feel guilty beating the engine mercilessly to get much acceleration.

If the FRS is anywhere near as much fun to drive as a Miata, it is an ABSOLUTE winner because it has the advantage of being a tight proper coupe, with two additional seats and more power.

By all accounts it will be at least as much fun as the Miata. We are lucky.:happyanim:

Longhorn248 12-09-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Liftcontrol (Post 94711)
I used to own a 1994 NSX; I removed the spare, jack, engine cover, stereo system, speakers [14lbs for each of the door speakers and 12 lbs for the one from the passenger footwell!!], replaced the battery with an Odyssey [16 lbs] and on days when I felt like it, I even removed the passenger seat [50lbs]....for a total of about 110 lbs. So that the curb weight was just about 3000 lbs.

You have to remember one thing. In a car that is already light, removing every lb has a much greater percentage decrease in weight than in a car that is heavy. That is why the FRS, which is already very light, any few lbs of weight decrease will make a very significant change in acceleration, braking and turning. Top speed is not affected much if any.

I loved that NSX and should have never sold it. It was a much more fun driver than the GTR. That is why I am so excited about the FRS. It should be a FUN car.

Holy hell! 14 pounds speakers? that's ridiculous. If speaker technology hasn't advanced any since the NSX that's 112 lbs we can cut out of the FR-S right there! :bellyroll:

CXTKRS1 12-09-2011 10:42 PM

Low calorie high protein diet should help.

Liftcontrol 12-10-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 94858)
Holy hell! 14 pounds speakers? that's ridiculous. If speaker technology hasn't advanced any since the NSX that's 112 lbs we can cut out of the FR-S right there! :bellyroll:

I know! Considering all the money spent on making the NSX all aluminum to decrease weight and then to put these ridiculously heavy speakers sounds and was preposterous! I hardly ever listened to the stereo anyway, what with the glorious engine singing right behind you:)

brewksy 12-10-2011 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 93916)

Funny only because on the first page of that thread is a link to a thread that preceded it and also talked about reducing weight in vehicles.

SEARCH FAILED!!!

old greg 12-10-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by brewksy (Post 95165)
SEARCH FAILED!!!

Uhh,.. that was his post as well. :laughabove:

Longhorn248 12-10-2011 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Liftcontrol (Post 95159)
I know! Considering all the money spent on making the NSX all aluminum to decrease weight and then to put these ridiculously heavy speakers sounds and was preposterous! I hardly ever listened to the stereo anyway, what with the glorious engine singing right behind you:)

All things considered the NSX was still incredibly impressive. If I was a bit older and had more disposable income I'd be looking for an older NSX to pick up as a weekend car. IMO for the current prices there's not many cars that beat it in the looks department.

ahausheer 12-10-2011 04:55 PM

Instead of weight reduction how bout lowering springs. Lower the car one inch and it will have the lowest COG of any car in the world. Sorry off topic I know.

Quantum 12-12-2011 01:07 PM

Losing weight helps almost everywhere. On your car or yourself.

I had an MR2 Spyder which I removed about 200 lbs from and got it under 1975 lbs. Even with 138hp it was a fun little car. I hope I can get this one down to about 2400 lbs.

-Hong


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