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0-60 mph - forget handling ability for 5.9 seconds
Okay, so I know this car is for handling and talk of 0-60 is sacrilegious to some, but the car must at least be quick. For FUN, lets guess the 0-60 times. To review, it seems that 60 will be achieved at the top of second so that helps and the car is lighter than all of the other ''sport compacts'' with circa 200 hp. The Civic Si and GTI can both get there in the low to mid 6's so I propose that this car will be a bit faster.
I estimate 0-60 to be 6 even on stock tires, 5.8 on high performance tread. These times are what I think hooligan journalists who don't really care about the engine can achieve, not what the average driver is capable of. Discuss. :respekt: |
Fast enough for me!
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I also think it will be 0-100 km/h in less than 6 sec. My car will do it in 5 sec. Haha, stripped down, more power, lighterweight rims, semi-slick tires.
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I think it will be around the speed of a RX8. I'd imagine 0-60 times in the 5.9-6.2 range and a mid-high 14 sec 1/4 mile. "quick-enough" for most, but not fast.
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I am going to guess mid to high 6s. Toyota and Subaru are stating around 6 second 0-60 but in car marketing jargon (and drag racing) that could mean 6.99 sec. ie. "I ran in the sixes!"
The 2012 Honda Civic Si has comparble weight, hp and a little more torque. It runs 0-60 in 6.9 seconds. I would be shocked if a stock FRS/BRZ could best it by a full second to 60mph. Edit: I better lock down a specific time because everyone else is. I will say MT = 6.5 AT = 6.7 (hey they said it was good!) |
I bet 5.8 to 6.2 0 to 60 MPH..This car will be just a little bit slower than a S2000...and we still don't have a real world dyno...the car could be putting down 200HP to the rear wheels!
We just have to wait and see. We already know the gearing is good... |
I've seen the 2012 Si quoted at 6.3 for the sedan.
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just for funzies - 6.4
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MT 6.2 seconds
AT 6.7 seconds I care more about the torque curve though. |
Does anybody know if the auto has launch control? If so it will probably be faster to 60mph. It will be around 6sec. or so depending on the driver, maybe right at 6sec. for a really good driver.
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The closest car I know of is the Renault Clio RS200 which is 1205kg 200 BHP 158 Lbft. It does 0-62 in 6.9s using Michelin PS2s with very little grip problems.
I would expect the Toyota/Scion/Subaru to be faster due to RWD but not by much as it supposedly is running LRR prius tyres so 0-62 in ~6.7 so 0-60 in 6.5. (this is what EVO are estimating as well) It will not be sub 6 without much better tyres and some tuning |
0-60 : 2.9 secs [Manual or Automatic]....guaranteed!!!!:thumbsup:
. . . . . . . . . if it does a . . . ..Bungee jump off a helicopter:bellyroll: |
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Put me down for an optimistic 6.2 0-60! |
I'm going with 6.5 seconds.
Some other cars for comparison; RSX type S is 6.7sec weighs 2700lbs with 200hp RX8- R3 is 6.5sec weighs 3064lbs with 232hp Genesis coupe 2.0t 6.8-7 sec and weighs 3294 with 210hp. Now the 86 won't have the torque the genesis has, but it has more than the Acura and its power deliver will be way more explosive than the RX8. |
A 2006 Si that's 2850 lbs, FWD and 200hp did it in 6.3 as per Motor Trend, I'm sure a good launch you can get 6.0 secs. Plenty fast for me.
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My guess is that the official figure for 0-100 will be 5,9 seconds with MT AT? I don't care :iono: |
I think the mags that usually get the better times will have it down to 6.3, the worse ones maybe about 6.7.... so 6.5 on Average. 0-100km/h, say 6.7-6.9 or so... you'd probably have to suck really bad to get this past 7 secs 0-60.
With proper sticky tyres, I'm betting on about 6 even, I really doubt one would consistently get it into 5.9 or less in stock form. perhaps with a foot of roll out insideline/Motortrend style? |
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A lot of you guys are looking at power to weight of other similar cars. But gearing is just as important for 0-60.
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You can figure out what the over all final drive is going to be from the estimated top speed, wheel size and hp numbers too. |
ive been using a stopwatch on vids and ive seen 5.9 for the auto and about 5.8 for the manual, remeber the auto has full lock up 2nd-6th gear shifts are supposedly .01 seconds which gives it an advantage 2nd gear and up for the auto if geared the same
if the auto didnt shift so quickly i would say 6.3 for the auto |
Maybe I'm missing something but... Why are we still guessing when the press release already said 0-100km/h in 6 seconds?
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Does a more useless representation of a car's performance exist?
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6.8 mt
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no.:thumbsup: |
will make the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs
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I wanna make a guess! 6.6MT
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6.2sec MT
6.6sec AT Lets see who can guess it correctly ;) |
I'll play along. 6.2 seconds for the manual transmission car.
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As long as it accelerates faster than my Tacoma, I'll be happy :)
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my tC when it was stock did 7.3 so i'll take anything below that. meh. even if its not. Ill live lol
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I estimate 5.9 for Manual and 6.1 for the Auto. I have a 9.0s Tahe right now, so any number will make me happy :) The BRZ is half the weight of my tahoe :lol:
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As long as it's about as fast as the 07 Mini Cooper S my family had when I was in high school I'll be happy. So, ~6.5 seconds.
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shouldnt the AT be faster. consider its paddle shifting would be faster then anyone shifting gears.
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