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BadLuckZN6 01-25-2013 09:14 AM

Which coilovers for me?
 
I want a decent coilover that will go pretty low as I will be getting quite aggressive wheels and it won't look good otherwise.

My car is my daily but i also want to drift it from time to time. Are the KW variant 3's good? Being in the UK, they are readily available.

What would you reccomend?

bdohazelnuts 01-25-2013 09:30 AM

If all you are doing is lowering the car, just buy springs. But yes, the KW V3's are supposed to be about the best out right now.

BadLuckZN6 01-25-2013 11:25 AM

I would rather have some quality coilovers as I will most likely be sliding it from time to time. I don't want any chinese ones though.

Dave-ROR 01-25-2013 11:41 AM

Budget?

BadLuckZN6 01-25-2013 11:49 AM

don't mind paying KW v3 price, around 1400 pounds. As long as the item is worth it

GTB/ZR-1 01-25-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkizero (Post 688572)
I would rather have some quality coilovers as I will most likely be sliding it from time to time.

And you'll need coilovers for that, why?

Springs will get it done for you--save your quid! :thumbsup:

636 01-25-2013 01:07 PM

If you wanna go hella low, BC Racing coilovers, with the extreme drop kit.

At max height it's about 2" lower than stock, and has the ability to lay frame. Check my thread.

BadLuckZN6 01-25-2013 03:01 PM

what is the lowest KW go?

SkAsphalt 01-25-2013 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkizero (Post 688572)
I would rather have some quality coilovers as I will most likely be sliding it from time to time. I don't want any chinese ones though.

I assume you mean you do not want any cheap products and not "chinese(sic) ones" since most of the springs are probably manufactured in China

BadLuckZN6 01-25-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 689254)
I assume you mean you do not want any cheap products and not "chinese(sic) ones" since most of the springs are probably manufactured in China

Yes, I'm trying to only use quality parts on my GT86, Japanese mainly but European coilovers seem to be good etc

BadLuckZN6 01-26-2013 07:29 AM

pictures of low cars on KW v3s? I wanna make sure they go low enough

BadLuckZN6 01-26-2013 08:37 AM

http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/01/23/b...r-the-brzgt86/

Bilstein coilovers released, how do these compare to other coilovers in the same price range

MikeM5 01-26-2013 11:06 AM

I run KW Clubsport on my E90 M3 and love them, but I have to put Stance out there as a viable alternative for the FRS/BRZ. I had them put on yesterday and I was very much impressed right out of the gate. If you haven't yet given them a look, I think it's worth it - especially for the price vs. the KW set.

JoeBoxer 01-26-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkizero (Post 690624)
http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/01/23/b...r-the-brzgt86/

Bilstein coilovers released, how do these compare to other coilovers in the same price range

Nice! I'll see if i can locate usa prices for these. Just doing a straight conversion looks like $1350 or so for the B14 and $2100 for the B16.

Saw an article for eibach control arm which is just reboxed SPC.

RYU 01-26-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 690764)
Nice! I'll see if i can locate usa prices for these.

Saw an article for eibach control arm which is just reboxed SPC.

Damn you Bilstein for placing the adjustment knobs on the bottom!!

Still interested though. Been waiting for these for a long time. I hope the price is right.

http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/u...-Kit-Group.jpg

BadLuckZN6 01-28-2013 09:39 AM

still looking for a good adjustable coilover. I can get a good deal on some HSD. I think these are the same as stance? (easier to get for me being in the UK) How do these compare to Cusci, Tein etc?

Racecomp Engineering 01-28-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU (Post 690771)
Damn you Bilstein for placing the adjustment knobs on the bottom!!

Still interested though. Been waiting for these for a long time. I hope the price is right.

http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/u...-Kit-Group.jpg

Those look like the Mini cooper kit. I don't know if the Subaru kit will be inverted rears. The fronts will definitely be adjusted on the bottom though.

- Andrew

636 01-28-2013 03:00 PM

Again, I'm suggesting BC Racing. They use them on their drift BMW, it comes with front camber plates stock, 30 levels of dampening, shock body height adjustment, and fully customizable spring rates. $999

Here's some pictures.
Stock on the left, BC on the right.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...16478407_n.jpg

Stock on the left, BC on the right.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...39477988_n.jpg

And here's them on my car about halfway max low.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...84162999_n.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8233/8...955a5b2a_z.jpg
^ Comparison next to an FRS on lowering springs.

And yes, they can withstand your abuse. I've drifted mine after the install, hit some pretty big bumps/holes, etc. I have 10k/10k spring rates.

The WRX above also has BC Racing coilovers, and he is constantly offroading with them, they are durable. And they have a 1 year warranty, and if after that if a shock goes out, it's a $95 replacement.

CSG Mike 01-28-2013 03:25 PM

How serious are you about getting performance while getting a drop? Have you considered going higher end than a KW V3?

Huehuecoyotl 01-28-2013 04:07 PM

costwise to performance bang for buck, in top of the heap brands, performance is important- not trying to hijack OP

trackable slidable tunable kits, that can go low, Bilstein>KV3>GC/Koni kit, does either get one better handling /damping / longevity or real world grip performance really?

will the car with 2000 dollar konis not handle as well as one with kw3s worth 2300 bucks or bilstein at 2500+?(keeping strut bar and camber plates the same with all kits, will I see the performance difference anywhere but at the very edge of grip beyond my driving limits and on my credit card bill?(assuming I put Tein, BC and those brands in a different group for now) will there be a creditcard bill worthy difference in daily ride out of these pricepoints?

for those who have camber plates, how loud are they?

CSG Mike 01-28-2013 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl (Post 695010)
costwise to performance bang for buck, in top of the heap brands, performance is important- not trying to hijack OP

trackable slidable tunable kits, that can go low, Bilstein>KV3>GC/Koni kit, does either get one better handling /damping / longevity or real world grip performance really?

will the car with 2000 dollar konis not handle as well as one with kw3s worth 2300 bucks or bilstein at 2500+?(keeping strut bar and camber plates the same with all kits, will I see the performance difference anywhere but at the very edge of grip beyond my driving limits and on my credit card bill?(assuming I put Tein, BC and those brands in a different group for now) will there be a creditcard bill worthy difference in daily ride out of these pricepoints?

for those who have camber plates, how loud are they?

Yes.

High quality setups (not entry level ones like the KW V3, or lesser kits that are sub 1k) will yield more stability and better ride quality, as well as being more forgiving and a wider range of adjustment.

If you're local to us, we'll be more than happy to take you for a ride to demonstrate the differences.

The camber plates on our Tein SRCs make no noise.

BadLuckZN6 01-28-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 694940)
How serious are you about getting performance while getting a drop? Have you considered going higher end than a KW V3?

as awesome as the SrC look i don't think id wanna pay more than KW v3 price because it is still mainly a daily

CSG Mike 01-28-2013 06:28 PM

SRCs aren't the only option. I'd look into every 2 way adjustable damper you can find that fits within your budget.

BadLuckZN6 01-28-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 695397)
SRCs aren't the only option. I'd look into every 2 way adjustable damper you can find that fits within your budget.

any that you recommend?

ModBargains.com 01-28-2013 06:59 PM

I have KW V2's on my previous project I have, and now with my new project, bumped it up to V3's, so I'm really invested in getting KW coilovers. Great comfort, that's one thing I needed, was a comfortable car when I needed it.

Great choice going with V3's :)

CSG Mike 01-28-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkizero (Post 695458)
any that you recommend?

How dedicated are you planning on making the car for drifting? Drift camber, angle kits, etc.?

The two extremes I would suggest are the cheapest damper you can find with the stiffest spring, or a nice 2 way adjustable damper (e.g. SRC, JRZ, AST, etc.) that can accommodate a wide array of springs.

It's really budget dependent.

Everyone here loves V3's, but very few of the performance crowd actually go that route; it's a street coilover that is passable at the track, whereas my bias is toward track coilovers that also work well on the street.

Racecomp Engineering 01-29-2013 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 694483)
Those look like the Mini cooper kit. I don't know if the Subaru kit will be inverted rears. The fronts will definitely be adjusted on the bottom though.

- Andrew

Bilstein rears will NOT be inverted.

Myles

Kosmos 12-15-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 636 (Post 694883)
Again, I'm suggesting BC Racing. They use them on their drift BMW, it comes with front camber plates stock, 30 levels of dampening, shock body height adjustment, and fully customizable spring rates. $999

Here's some pictures.
Stock on the left, BC on the right.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...16478407_n.jpg

Stock on the left, BC on the right.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...39477988_n.jpg

And here's them on my car about halfway max low.
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...84162999_n.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8233/8...955a5b2a_z.jpg
^ Comparison next to an FRS on lowering springs.

And yes, they can withstand your abuse. I've drifted mine after the install, hit some pretty big bumps/holes, etc. I have 10k/10k spring rates.

The WRX above also has BC Racing coilovers, and he is constantly offroading with them, they are durable. And they have a 1 year warranty, and if after that if a shock goes out, it's a $95 replacement.

I was looking at these for my frs I just got into researching coils. How is the ride? I'm dailying my frs. Hoe does the ride compair to the stock

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Vten 12-15-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kosmos (Post 1391354)
I was looking at these for my frs I just got into researching coils. How is the ride? I'm dailying my frs. Hoe does the ride compair to the stock

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I also dd'ing my brz with those bc coilover with the swift springs 8/8K upgrades. They're Actualy not that bad.... Slightly firmer than stocks for sure and they're hugs corner pretty good without the bumpiness.

636 12-15-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kosmos (Post 1391354)
I was looking at these for my frs I just got into researching coils. How is the ride? I'm dailying my frs. Hoe does the ride compair to the stock

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I'm running 10k springs, maxed dampening. It's prettttyy bouncy.

Kosmos 12-15-2013 02:11 PM

Thanks for the info guys btw I love your pearl white frs 636

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