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mswhong 01-25-2013 05:20 AM

tuning in australia
 
Hi guys,

Now I know there are a few of those in the country that are currently running tuned 86s, and I'm definite of an orange one near my area that has in fact received some sort of tune from some garage.

I live in Melbourne and was wondering which garages offer tunes for this car? There's ecutek in the states, but are there also workshops in aus (preferable vic) that have the authorisation of tuning my car with ecutek? Cheers

DanVIIIVI 01-25-2013 05:33 AM

http://www.ecutek.com.au/who-to-cont...oria/dandenong

Google search for "Ecutek Dealers Victoria" yeilded the Aussie ecutek site where you can view authorized dealers by state.

There are probably many more shops that have access to EcuTek, but it only showed up one that is 'EcuTek Accredited".

coyote 01-25-2013 06:34 AM

Where in Australia are you?

a.beck 01-25-2013 06:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mswhong (Post 688297)
I live in Melbourne


JiB 01-26-2013 02:55 AM

Order a tune from visconti, Perrin, or any of the vendors on here, and DIY, plenty of how too, s out there

Maj3sty 01-26-2013 03:35 AM

Not in Victoria, but here's one in Sydney

http://www.tunehouse.com.au/products...formance-kits/

I'm thinking of the THR SPEC S package


http://www.tunehouse.com.au/wp-conte...6-KITS-THR.pdf

fuddbutter 01-26-2013 09:05 AM

MRT is the only Australian EcuTek tuner, and he is expensive!!
If you do want EcuTek, contact Visconti on this forum and he may be able to help.

Or you can try the Unichip setup, the Aust distributor is waiting on some units at the moment. These leave no trace of being used if you want to take your car back to the dealer, you can unplug them and off you go.

Fizz 01-26-2013 12:48 PM

Im keen on getting mine tuned as well once I collect the car, and unless openecu tuning becomes available by then, I'll probably just go with the vinsconti or perrin mail order tune.

The only thing I'm curious to know is, would the factory ecu tune be 100% identical across all markets? I mean, would there be any variation to the australian tune vs the north american tune? If there is....there might be unwanted side effects once uploaded to our ecu?

My preference would still be a custom tune on the dyno with openecu tuning. Mail order has limitations.

JP 01-26-2013 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 690640)
MRT is the only Australian EcuTek tuner, and he is expensive!!
If you do want EcuTek, contact Visconti on this forum and he may be able to help.

Or you can try the Unichip setup, the Aust distributor is waiting on some units at the moment. These leave no trace of being used if you want to take your car back to the dealer, you can unplug them and off you go.


MRT is the Aus EcuTek distributor, they are not the only EcuTek tuner in Aus, hence all the other EcuTek tuners in Aus charge roughly double what you pay elsewhere in the world.

I'm interested to see how the local EcuTek tuners react if you rock up to get some fine-tuning done on the dyno with your 86 that has a license/email tune from overseas.

ex-gti 01-26-2013 07:20 PM

anyone knows wht mrt kits are available?

BRZRR 01-26-2013 07:36 PM

When I had a power commander fitted to my bike I was told specifically not to use the US maps as they are tuned to their fuel. I can't see why this would be any different.

MACCAA 01-26-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ex-gti (Post 691433)
anyone knows wht mrt kits are available?

Try looking on their website?

ex-gti 01-26-2013 09:12 PM

website down =(

Suffa 01-26-2013 10:16 PM

Is a dyno required? I've been looking into a tune but can't find an answer.

Ryan1JZ 01-26-2013 10:36 PM

cihan at etuner.com.au

tuned my soarer with fantastic results. tunes everything else, works in conjunction with EDGE motorworks

cuddefred 01-26-2013 11:23 PM

Anyone who is thinking of going with Visconti should be aware that he is not the most reliable at getting tunes out to you or dealing with requests. No doubt he is busy but I was disappointed with his customer service although his tune is fine.

I also have the tune from FA20 and it is as good, if not better than Visconti's in my experience so I would go with them. Their customer service is excellent and rarely will you go more than a few hours without a reply to emails. In John's case I waited for weeks on several occasions.

Just a heads up from someone with no vested interest in either tuner. :happy0180:

Fizz 01-27-2013 04:31 AM

Thanks for sharing cuddefred. How's your fa20 tune going? Any issues with it so far?

JP interesting point u've raised, i think the answer you'd most likely get is "sorry we can't help u". That's the one big downside of ecutek tuning, unlike openecu tuning.....but i can live with that if the tune is good, and since my only mod would be a catback I won't be bothered with further fine tuning on dyno further down the track. Price is the reason why I'm steering clear of getting ecutek locally.

cuddefred 01-27-2013 08:14 AM

Hi Fizz, the FA20 has gone fine. I sent several logs to them and they kept fine tuning until they were happy and I am delighted with the end product. It feels like the torque dip is slightly less noticeable than the Visconti tune but there isn't much between them to be honest. The big difference has been customer service and they have been much better than Visconti in my case.

jet86 01-28-2013 12:33 AM

I've been dealing with John from Visconti tuning about my boost setup, he usually asks for a time to ring me and chat even though he is on the other side of the world, not too bad customer service imo

Fizz 01-28-2013 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuddefred (Post 692363)
Hi Fizz, the FA20 has gone fine. I sent several logs to them and they kept fine tuning until they were happy and I am delighted with the end product. It feels like the torque dip is slightly less noticeable than the Visconti tune but there isn't much between them to be honest. The big difference has been customer service and they have been much better than Visconti in my case.

How come u had to send them multiple logs to fine tune it? Was the initial tune they sent not 'quite' right? And did they charge extra for all fine tuning?

Looking at their website now, says "Stg1 ref lash + license + cable" is $850. Is that what u got as well? It says if u buy the retail cable they will send updates....but what's the difference with the ecutek cable and the retail cable? Would both allow for data logging?

Nardi330 01-28-2013 03:58 AM

Anyone else considering the Unichip option??

cuddefred 01-28-2013 04:14 AM

Each tuner will look at your logs and try to make amendments and improvements as each engine is slightly different. I was happy with the tune but FA20 thuoght they could make it better - and they did :) This was all done with no extra charge and the update the tunes every so often, again free of charge.

With Ecutek you need the tune, a licence for each car and a cable that you keep and can be used on multiple carrs if you wish. I'm not sure what you mean by 'retail cable' as you only get the Ecutek one, which is what you use to data log and also flash your vehicle.

I paid a total $350 for a Stage 1 tune + E85 tune as I had previously purchased a licence and cable from Visconti.

Hope this helps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizz (Post 694049)
How come u had to send them multiple logs to fine tune it? Was the initial tune they sent not 'quite' right? And did they charge extra for all fine tuning?

Looking at their website now, says "Stg1 ref lash + license + cable" is $850. Is that what u got as well? It says if u buy the retail cable they will send updates....but what's the difference with the ecutek cable and the retail cable? Would both allow for data logging?


Fizz 01-28-2013 07:53 AM

Thanks for clearing it up.....yea I think ill get the fa20 tune going by all the good reviews everyone is giving. Plus glad to know they're happy to support overseas customers with fine tuning.

JP 01-28-2013 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 694073)
Anyone else considering the Unichip option??

I'd never put a signal bender in a car that has a proper tuning solution available

Kefu 01-28-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fizz (Post 690866)
Im keen on getting mine tuned as well once I collect the car, and unless openecu tuning becomes available by then, I'll probably just go with the vinsconti or perrin mail order tune.

The only thing I'm curious to know is, would the factory ecu tune be 100% identical across all markets? I mean, would there be any variation to the australian tune vs the north american tune? If there is....there might be unwanted side effects once uploaded to our ecu?

My preference would still be a custom tune on the dyno with openecu tuning. Mail order has limitations.

USA have different emission standards and their fuel ratings are different also, so all their cars run a lower power rating from factory. I'm sure a good tuner could be able to run a tune to the standards of Australian fuel and emissions.

Fizz 01-28-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 694218)
I'd never put a signal bender in a car that has a proper tuning solution available

What he said +1

mswhong 01-29-2013 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kefu (Post 694278)
USA have different emission standards and their fuel ratings are different also, so all their cars run a lower power rating from factory. I'm sure a good tuner could be able to run a tune to the standards of Australian fuel and emissions.

their fuel ratings are not different, their 91 and 93 is basically the equivalent of our 95 and 98.

Suffa 01-29-2013 09:09 AM

So the fa20 guys, you purchase the tune, license and cable if needed. Flash the tune and drive around with a laptop connected and log data which they go over and make adjustments then send back an updated tune. Repeat until satisfied.

This sound about right?

Fizz 01-29-2013 10:46 PM

Another thing.....does the fa20 tune offer some or all of the racerom features? I'd love to have that downshift throttle blip feature.

Suffa 01-31-2013 11:04 PM

bump

Unclewonka 02-01-2013 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mswhong (Post 688297)
Hi guys,

Now I know there are a few of those in the country that are currently running tuned 86s, and I'm definite of an orange one near my area that has in fact received some sort of tune from some garage.

I live in Melbourne and was wondering which garages offer tunes for this car? There's ecutek in the states, but are there also workshops in aus (preferable vic) that have the authorisation of tuning my car with ecutek? Cheers

Hey Microsoft, long time no see!

You could try the overseas tunes but be aware that their petrol has different qualities to what we have locally ie. different knock properties etc.

If you were in Perth I'd recommend STechnic, in Melbourne I'm not sure whom does it.

Fizz 02-01-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unclewonka (Post 705340)
Hey Microsoft, long time no see!

You could try the overseas tunes but be aware that their petrol has different qualities to what we have locally ie. different knock properties etc.

If you were in Perth I'd recommend STechnic, in Melbourne I'm not sure whom does it.

Shouldn't really be an issue since u can send data logs to these overseas tuners to fine tune your maps to local conditions and local fuel.

Ge8rb6x 06-24-2013 08:22 AM

Dyno Tune in Perth Western Austalia
 
My 86 arrives at the end of August and I'm thinking about fitting a HKS Super Charger along with the rest of the bits & pieces ( Pipes, Plugs etc ) the only problem I'm having is that I can't find anywhere in Perth that seems able to tune it.

I'm not willing to fit these parts to my car without a proper tune being available to me.

Does anybody know if or where I can tune my car in Perth Western Australia ?

Z86 06-25-2013 05:59 AM

Could Formula Tech do it? I know they do Walkinshaw gear for hillbilly cars.
Or maybe Tokyo workshop - they are evo specialists.

Ge8rb6x 06-25-2013 09:54 AM

I spoke to the guys at Maximum Motor Sport/ EkuTek Malaga today & yep they have all the soft wear on there Dyno to be able to tune my 86, looks like that's where I'm going to get it built :)

000 Racing 06-26-2013 03:23 AM

Guys for Sydney if you want to avoid the ECUTEK locked in route then I had my race car done at http://insightmotorsports.com.au
They are at Arndel Park near Eastern Creek, top work. I won't go into my RWKW but they upped my RPM limit and made the throttle more responsive.
I paid for mine so this is not a commercial for a sponsor.. merely a recommendation based on my experience and performance gain.

Bigmaxy 06-26-2013 04:18 AM

Hi 000. What are they using to do the tuning?
Also Ecutek doesn't seem to be as locked down as it used to be. Mrt seem to be making things harder than it had to be however. When you get an ecutek tune from visconti you get the new map and the stock map. You can flash between them as much as you like. If you flash back to stock the dealer has no idea and can flash themselves if necessary. You grab the updated firmware the dealer provides with its updates and visconti rolls your tune up into it and sends you a new tune. Mrt have the monopoly when dyno tuning here in Australia bit that is not the fault of ecutek the system but ecutek the business. Anyway. Morpower or something like that in wa has tuned the avo kit running e85 over there from memory

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

Fizz 07-22-2013 01:19 PM

What about kido racing tunes? anyone tried them yet? Apparently $400 only....guessing it's just flash tune not dyno tune....but I reckon still good value since it's not locked and no need to pay license like ecutek

crook 07-30-2013 01:48 PM

I've had mine done with BRZedit through mathew spry (Performance Injection Tuning Services) if you don't wanna go the ecutek way... He also has FI maps available :thumbsup: my car runs like a bought 1 just louder with a PITA clutch lol

Xauterus 07-31-2013 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 000 Racing (Post 1026233)
Guys for Sydney if you want to avoid the ECUTEK locked in route then I had my race car done at http://insightmotorsports.com.au
They are at Arndel Park near Eastern Creek, top work. I won't go into my RWKW but they upped my RPM limit and made the throttle more responsive.
I paid for mine so this is not a commercial for a sponsor.. merely a recommendation based on my experience and performance gain.


Why won't you go into your rear wheel kws? Does it keep you faster if others don't know????
Isnt the power it has, the power it has?


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