FR-S everywhere?
 

As most of us have noticed with the tC and other scion models that they are very popular and very common, what is every ones take the FR-S, will it be as common as a tC or will it be fairly rare like a base model Camaro(honestly don't see that many camaros around).

I think that the fact it is going to be RWD will lead a lot of people to sway away from the car, especially up here in CT since winter can be bad, and keep it a little more rare. I plan on getting on fully loaded, but may hold off for a 2014 RS.

If the scion is 20k, it'll be the next civic. Which doesn't lessen its appeal as a car, but if you see one with a FnF wing and a nasty unpainted riveted body kit, then you'll be angry at Toyobaru for making it so accessible. :lol:

Man the thought of that makes me want to :bonk: and then :cry:

FR-S everywhere = aftermarket will be cheap and plentiful.

because it's a niche car I would lean more towards it being the next Tiburon. Which here in Ontario I see everywhere. mostly stock, but the odd one riced out.

The Civic already has it's successor...the Mazda3. Although not so much in aftermarket community, but in sheer numbers on the road.

I dunno if its just where I live, but I rarely see tC's.

This, although insurance costs may suffer because of it...

I see that you're from CT. I'm from MS, and well... we're in two very different worlds. I never see any tCs around here. Ever. But there are Camaros LEFT and RIGHT, bases and the V8s. No joke, I see more Camaros/Challengers/Mustangs than I do Civics and Camrys. They're already starting to get really junky, clanky and faded too.

I'm hoping that they simply just don't make as many as the tC. But who knows what will happen - IF they do sell well though, maybe we will see a higher performance version around the corner.

I think the real reason we all rank on the civic its cuz its FWD. Cuz I mean damn, those things are reliable. - coming from a strong civic disliker

At least the toyobarus are RWD and a lot more better looking.

This car has gotten much more attention than the tiburon, and I think it will have a lot more sales because of that.

But that also means that the market will be flooded with poor quality aftermarket parts from China, and parts from GReddy and HKS will be pricey because they won't produce as many because many people will be buying the cheaper alternatives.

Plus, HKS closed US operations so parts from them are hard to get, and the might not be the only ones.

I too am hoping that the RWD will keep this car more rare as I drive from South Windsor (east side of Hartford) to Danbury everyday for work (I know the OP knows how far that is) and the winter is going to kick my ass, along with many other commuters in this state. I think I'm going to keep my elantra just as my winter beater so I don't have to subject my FR-S baby to the salt and winter weather that we get here. RWD should certainly deter some people.

You have to remember the TC has been around for a LOOOOONNNGGGG time so your going to see alot of them everywhere. And honestly even if we see the FRS and BRZ everywhere I think that's a good sign it's the revival of the scene that died out mid 2000.

If Nissan brings back a good looking SILVIA and bring it to the states, Honda Has another Integra then man... BRZ and FRS have big competitions.

I have been asking myself this question as well, but knowing how Scion markets its cars this can go both ways. It can either be an easy sports car everyone (VERY noob or EXTREME motorists) can enjoy or because of it's 2+2 seating and a lot of people not liking Scion and what they "messed up"(people's complaints) on, it can be a rarity to see in 5-10yrs.

Im sure there will be plenty of these on the roads and may be looked as a slow car with potential. but we will see those ricers with 10k stickers, big spoilers, ugly body kits, hellaflushed, flamed/sparkly paint jobs on them. Pricing is the biggest factor IMO. So like I said, It depends.

I sure hope not.

Aw man I was doing the hour drive thing for a couple of months working all the way up in suffield, I'm glad that's over.

if its priced under 21k. i can see a lot of people crashing them so fast since scions are marketed towards teens or young 20s. for alot of them it would be their first RWD cars. i used to belong to a local tc club and we went out to a spirited drive at night at a nearby mountain pass one time and a couple of them wrecked their cars and they were both 17 and 19.

inexperience is just gonna show its real ugly head if they're now driving a RWD car.

Most companies buy materials from china, did you know its legal to stamp made in usa if you simply assemble the product in usa?

http://www.chinasuppliers.globalsour...ade-In-USA.htm

Forge, a US company is guilty of doing that very thing. They are quality products, but it is from china.

So you're saying that high quality manufacturers like GReddy and HKS would produce more parts if there were less of these Toyobarus around? That doesn't make sense.

Im going to assume that most teens and such will see this car, ask for it and once the parents are at the dealership looking up the numbers they will probably end up walking out with a tC, xB, Corolla ect. I have seen it happen before when i was in highschool with guys going to nissan expecting a Z and ending up with an altima coupe lol. Like stated before its a niche car but people will look at it and want it because it looks cool. It'll be a good thing for scion though since it would probably help move units of cars under the FRS. None of the less anticipate the ricers and jail bait riding around in what you consider a great sports car.

Well, of course everything that comes out of china isn't terrible, but a lot of the imitation parts are. HKS Japan though, make all their parts in Japan and they are of very high quality.

Noooo, I'm saying HKS/GReddy will produce less if the demand for high quality parts is low, because all these kids are buying imitation parts rather than legit parts! And therefore the cost of these high quality parts is high for the people who actually want to get the real deal.

why would anyone buy hks and greddy parts when you can buy full race turbo kits for cheaper and they usually produce more hp. Or fabricate your own exhaust systems for cheaper in America?

Is it legal to do this in America? Including adding turbo?

Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick two.

You can modify your car as much as you want as long as it passes emissions or you just change it a back to stock when you go do emissions

I get what your saying but I wish their was some alternative then japanese companies that charge an arm and leg.

At least as Honda's are concerned companies like Full race and Peakboost seem legit. (Part Wise, Peakboost skipped out because he didnt send parts)

HKS has always been the more expensive. They are a niche company like ARC with Function with Form model. They haven't pulled out of the US entirely and parts are still easily available in the US.:w00t:

Have to agree with this.

around 2006-2007ish I left the scene myself, as did most of my other friends (90% from the local Subaru club). The loss of good import mags (R.I.P SCC) as well as a crackdown on tuner cars due to idiots street racing or just acting like 'tards everywhere they shouldn't have been, that put a damper on the whole excitement of it all. Oh, and that whole economy thing...

I'm honestly really looking forward to the FT-86 and BRZ because I feel like this will be the start of a revival of the import scene, maybe even the early import scene where people would take their 'slow' rice burners out to the Friday night drags and surprise a few people.

Here's to hoping that this spurs Honda/Nissan/Mazda/Mitsu to make some affordable, small, light cars that can at least get me excited about heading to Monday night chicken wing meets again. We used to stand in the parking lot until 1-2am sometimes just trading all the same car-related stories.

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Mistu and Honda are pretty much out of the picture.

I think if the BRZ-FRS pans out as well as everyone thinks it will, I would take a strong Guess that Nissan Has an S16(probably already) in the works and would plan to release it in the next 2 or 3 years.

from where i'm at, I know about 7 people that are seriously considering buying this car including myself. That's already a lot IMHO

Yea. Ive probably got 3 or 4 friends that want this car

I'm buying too. But 1st I need to strike 4D big time :D

Until this car made its grand debut, so was Toyota.

There will be more FRS/BRZ sold in California than anywhere in U.S., you guys should move. :P

Especially in the Bay Area where majority of potential buyers live.

yup!:party0030:

i hope there will be everywhere, but...with different colors, style and mods, so when we meet its nice to see different, not everybody with the exact same cars and colors, thats would be really boring.

I really dont care about rice, has long has they pay it themself, im ok with it.

more it sell, more it have car, more potential group buy on aftermarket part, more cheap for the customer, more cheap for the manufacturer to product.

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Not only that but who knows maybe in 5-15 years after production stops. They'll be less high trim, stocked ones which will command a premium in the market like an AE86, MR2-T, Supra TT, etc. And I can sell after I've had fun with it.

So yeah, I'm dying to test drive this car, I haven't drove a standard in over a year when I traded in my eclipse for a xD automatic since I had a baby. The xD should be paid off soon and once it is all I gotta do is save up a little for a down payment assuming I like the test drive and I bet I will.