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MontrealFRS 01-19-2013 12:58 PM

need your guys expert help!
 
hey so i got a raven frs my mods for now are
greddy evo 3 exhaust
trd air filter.

im so lost into what to get next, any help would be appreciated ;o:D

86_ZN6 01-19-2013 12:59 PM

A tune!

Mr.Jay 01-19-2013 01:01 PM

I agree

A tune really changes the car.

Then tires depenxing on if you want grip or not

FRSupra 01-19-2013 01:04 PM

my suggestion is don't ask other people what to get. It's your car, why would you need to ask anyone else?

That is so stupid is so many ways. Do you research.

MontrealFRS 01-19-2013 01:13 PM

i do not want to make a wrong decision maybe?
im not a modding expert, and do not want to spend alot of money on something i mite regret...
i just want peoples opinion that is all, call it stupid if you want.

Wattage 01-19-2013 01:14 PM

I love when people shut you down for asking questions and then in the same breath say "do your research"

what the fuck do you think asking questions is

86 FRS 01-19-2013 01:15 PM

wheels and kits lol

bdanisi 01-19-2013 01:17 PM

Whatever u do enjoy it! I was wondering tho do u get drone at 3k rpm with your exhaust?

86_ZN6 01-19-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wattage (Post 675599)
I love when people shut you down for asking questions and then in the same breath say "do your research"

what the fuck do you think asking questions is

Yup people who comments/posts like that thinks they know everything.

MontrealFRS 01-19-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdanisi (Post 675602)
Whatever u do enjoy it! I was wondering tho do u get drone at 3k rpm with your exhaust?

yeah, i took off the silencers so its pretty loud and drony 2k-3k, but it got better the more i drive and apparently the stock fitment was rubbing and causing more drone, which my buddy fixed and now its really not that bad at all.... only problem is i get more smoke coming out the right pipe ;/

Batman 01-19-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 675585)
I agree

A tune really changes the car.

Then tires depenxing on if you want grip or not

LOL GRIP

because Drift car!

MontrealFRS 01-19-2013 01:31 PM

is a tune really worth it????

Wattage 01-19-2013 01:32 PM

I don't know a lot but from what I am learning it seems like a tune is one of the most important things you can do.

I mean, there is a lot of capability with the equipment you have. Tuning it is all about changing how that equipment is controlled. This is especially important if you start adding components that change the whole balance of how all the equipment works.

frsguy707 01-19-2013 01:34 PM

Yes! You'll notice a huge difference in performane I'm getting the fa20 tune when I get my taxes back.:party0030:

sho220 01-19-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 675618)
is a tune really worth it????

Yes and no.

wbradley 01-19-2013 01:36 PM

It looks like a tune is approx $850.00 to $1000.00 initial cost with cable and license and if you have intake/exhaust already you might get 15 HP on 93 fuel. I am at the point where this would be the next power improvement. Will decide in spring if I want to do that or just put toward tires.

Demandred7 01-19-2013 02:01 PM

If I read correctly, you have an MT, a friend of mine did the DIY for clutch engagement and he said it makes his car more enjoyable. The price is right too. Personally I have only done low cost appearance mods (tint, shark fin antenna, exhaust tips, and LEDs for the dome light, license plate, trunk, and reverse lights). I am still discovering the car's natural performance and handling. I will then see where that leads me from there.

Xdragonxb0i 01-19-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 675618)
is a tune really worth it????

i think the fa20 will gain more performance with a tune then a exhaust/intake/headers together.

Mr.Jay 01-19-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 675607)
LOL GRIP

because Drift car!

Drift cars use tires that have very good traction as well. If you have too much grip it will just make you want more power to get that fun back haha I goin with rs3 but will likely turbo to get my fun back


Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 675618)
is a tune really worth it????

I really believe so. You can throw as many mods on your car as you want but if you don't tune the mods to the car and its conditions you are never grtting the max out of it.

Besides the tune changes quite a bit car feels like it is smoother in power delievery

6-Shift 01-19-2013 02:56 PM

What mods to get? Depends on what you want. I'll be the black sheep and say DON'T get a a tune because it'll void your warranty and it'd be better to build up the intake and exhaust sides of the car before the tune so you can get the most out of it when you decide to. I'd recommend doing any stereo mods/ interior upgrades you were thinking about because that is where you spend all of your time. Next, HID's in the projectors. Lowering springs. Tint your windows. Perrin intake tube (it'll help the TRD air filter work better). plasti dip your stock wheels for a custom look or buck up for custom wheels (try to find a set that are lighter than stock). Other than that, it's whatever fancies you. It's your car, don't do something because everyone else is doing it or is telling you to do it. Most of all, have fun :)

LeeMaster 01-19-2013 03:03 PM

I suggest you change the transmission oil and the rear differential oil and get those metal shavings out of your car. Best initial mod to start off with.

Motul 300 non-lsd version, search up the forum vendors.

Mr.Jay 01-19-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Missourifornian (Post 675739)
What mods to get? Depends on what you want. I'll be the black sheep and say DON'T get a a tune because it'll void your warranty. Most of all, have fun :)


Just want to point out that this is false unless you tell them you have a tune or at least with ecutek as it isn't detectable with dealer tools.

Also getting any mods can void your warranty as its up to the dealership. You can fight it of coruse but still same deal.

With just a tune you can get almost 20hp and beter response and maximize the mods you have already.

I will agree that a tune isn't for everyone and really depends on your goals with the car.

If you are interested I recommend reading some of the tune threads and getting the info directly from the vendors mouth instead of the misinformation that may occur here.

Asterisked Accolade 01-19-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealFRS (Post 675579)
hey so i got a raven frs my mods for now are
greddy evo 3 exhaust
trd air filter.

im so lost into what to get next, any help would be appreciated ;o:D


Something you could get next is track time. I hear it's quite a blast. Not to mention, it'll give you a sense of before-and-after.

Batman 01-20-2013 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 675685)
Drift cars use tires that have very good traction as well. If you have too much grip it will just make you want more power to get that fun back haha I goin with rs3 but will likely turbo to get my fun back




I really believe so. You can throw as many mods on your car as you want but if you don't tune the mods to the car and its conditions you are never grtting the max out of it.

Besides the tune changes quite a bit car feels like it is smoother in power delievery

I was cracking a joke, to be clear. :) I desperately need grippier tires as well! and I'll be throwing a supercharger in to break the grippys loose

campy 01-20-2013 03:26 AM

I watched a youtube video not too long ago where someone put an aftermarket exhaust on their subaru forester. They didn't actually gain any power until they reflashed the ecu. Tunes are definitely a bit pricy but they're worth it if you want to really optimize your intake/exhaust mods.

Otherwise, I personally would go with slightly wider, grippier tires. I believe (but don't quote me on this) that you can fit up to 235/40/17 tires on the stock rims. Lowering springs are also a cheaper, less-harsh alternative to coilovers. My old coilover'd car was NOT comfy at all, even on the softest settings. I also blew 2 shocks while on the streets. Check the suspension section of this forum to get more info on springs/coils.

But hey, customize the car to suit your use/tastes. Air bag suspension and 19" rims might be more your style. :iono:

Mr.Jay 01-20-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batman (Post 676678)
I was cracking a joke, to be clear. :) I desperately need grippier tires as well! and I'll be throwing a supercharger in to break the grippys loose

Yeah I reread your post afterwards and was going to edit it but you already posted this

looking forward to the build!

BTW I'm named after you all time nemesis :happy0180:

ThePoet 01-20-2013 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRSupra (Post 675590)
my suggestion is don't ask other people what to get. It's your car, why would you need to ask anyone else?

That is so stupid is so many ways. Do you research.

I really really do hope you were trying to make a joke.... I was going to bold the parts of your post that contradicted each other, but then I realized I'd have to bold the whole thing.

Batman 01-21-2013 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 677485)
Yeah I reread your post afterwards and was going to edit it but you already posted this

looking forward to the build!

BTW I'm named after you all time nemesis :happy0180:

Your avatar picture sends shivers down my spine every time haha

Gaiakai 01-21-2013 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 677485)
Yeah I reread your post afterwards and was going to edit it but you already posted this

looking forward to the build!

BTW I'm named after you all time nemesis :happy0180:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batman (Post 678510)
Your avatar picture sends shivers down my spine every time haha

If you two met out on the track, you would probably be like this:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPfxtJ8SQgk"]Porsche vs Mustang NEMESIS!!!!! - YouTube[/ame]


With that laugh at the end!

Batman 01-21-2013 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaiakai (Post 678553)
If you two met out on the track, you would probably be like this:

Porsche vs Mustang NEMESIS!!!!! - YouTube


With that laugh at the end!

I just woke up the city laughing at that!! But truthfully.. I can see myself laughing like that haha

Jedi1 01-21-2013 02:50 AM

just got 225/45/17 RS3's from Discount Tire for $600 shipped. These cars need tires in a HUGE way. You won't believe the difference a decent set makes. UPGRADE if it's in the budget.

Mr.Jay 01-21-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaiakai (Post 678553)
If you two met out on the track, you would probably be like this:

Porsche vs Mustang NEMESIS!!!!! - YouTube


With that laugh at the end!

Thanks for this I brusted out laughing


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