Coilover Review: FEAL SUSPENSION 441 coilover kit
 

Hey FT86,
Recently I got the opportunity to test out a set of FEAL SUSPENSION's new coilover kit for the FR-S/BRZ. These coilovers are put together by human hands and are made to you LIKING! They are built by non other than Odi Bakchis, a professional Formula D drifter. So you know these coilovers can take a beating and they're made by enthusiasts for enthusiasts!

Coilover Specs (taken from their site):
They also offer different valving and spring ratings if one desires!

Review:
Me being in Los Angeles I drove to Rancho Cucamonga where FEAL SUSPENSION is which was about a ~40 mile drive. The 134/210 freeway is one that can let you really feel your suspension, stock or not. After installation and the way back home the 7k/6k Swift springs are a PERFECT set up for daily driving. They're slightly stiffer than stock but are still noticeably stiffer when driving hard and taking hard turns! By that these are the kind of coilovers that you can take to the tracks and canyons and would perform well!

My car is set at .75 finger gap in the front and 1 finger gap in the rear. Odi says that is the ideal suspension height for the FR-S, its low (not slammed) and still consists of its perfect suspension geometry.

Contact info:
Website: http://www.fealsuspension.com/
Phone: 909.477.3030
Email: odi@fealsuspension.com

They currently have two sets in stock so get them ASAP!

Current pic for now!
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Pics of the front!
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The rear!
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Better pics of the drop:
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More pics. Does he offer different spring rate options?

Yes he actually does! He makes them for you liking and purposes. I chose the 7k/6k for daily driving and canyon runs, and of course occasional "accidental" drifts

hit him up!
odi@fealsuspension.com

bump! got some new pics!

The front is set as low as the perches will allow? Or is the photo before the front height has been set?

Right now they're maxed out. And that's the .75 finger gap you see.
When purchasing you can request for a smaller spring so you can go lower.
Hope it helps :)

how much of a drop can these be dropped?

get some wheels on that thing XD

Does anyone have a direct comparison between the FEAL suspension 441 and the Fortune Auto 500s?

I've searched and couldn't find anything.

How are these holding up for ya? Got new wheels yet?

Is that 7kg/mm front and 6kg/mm rear?

And can you define a finger gap?

.....stick your finger in the wheel gap. That's finger gap. Of course some people have sausage fingers and others pasta fingers, but you get the idea.

My wedding ring had to be specially made because of how large my fingers are. I think stock ride height was a finger gap.

Are we still talking about your finger or your sausage?

Lol!! :bellyroll:

@mr. slim:
Any additional notable comments, a revisited review and/or problems you can make after more than a year of usage? :)

We would appreciate it.

Anybody else have these that can comment and review?

Any autox and/or track reviews opinions?

They were great did a couple of track days.
The drift bug caught on to me and I ended up selling them for powered by max coils. But the feals are great if you want a stock suspension type of ride with a spirited drive I mind.

i am sorry for being a ****, but please replace your initial paragraph with this:

Hey FT86,
Recently, I got the opportunity to test out FEAL SUSPENSION's new coilover kit for the FR-S/BRZ. These are assembled by hand and customized to your requirements. They were designed (since I doubt he personally builds each unit, but if he does, then keep the word build) built by Odi Bakchis¬-a professional Formula D drifter.

i would also refrain from statements such as

So you know these coilovers can take a beating and they're made by enthusiasts for enthusiasts! (poor relationship link, there are many enthusiasts who aren’t very professional and plenty of professionals who aren’t very enthusiastic…)

Instead i would say something like. "these are durable coilovers" (assuming they are, in fact, made from thicker/stronger material or better designed and or produced.

other than that i've heard good things about FEEL, so curious how these work out for people....

Mind if I ask which PBM coils you picked up, and what has your experience been since you had them installed? I'm very interested. Also did you get the PBM LCAs? The price is crazy great, so of course it makes me wonder about quality (even though PBM has a great rep).

I just got the comps and I do have the LCAs as well.
I just got them simply to go lower than the feals.

Hmm..never heard of these PBM before. They look very interesting, especially the shiny gold springs and full gold/copper colors, haha ..but joking aside, those BILLET lower mounts sounds very attractive and quality (especially after seeing so many broken lower strut mounts on google searches of Teins, BuddyClubs, HKS, etc., etc., etc. and so many other coilovers).

Do they seem high quality when you got/installed them? Or, do they seem beefier and more durable than the Feals? They sure sound/look like it.

Also..are they more aggressively damped and handle more aggressively than the Feals? I prefer/want a more aggressive coilover :)

hows the ride quality on the pbm compared to feal

I like Odi but I have to question those spring rates.

From my understanding, it's the only "budget" coilover that's done particularly well at national STX events. The rest of the field is on Tarmac IIs, KW v3s and similarly priced coilovers.

Setup for autocross is different from tracking. Dedicated setups are required to be the best. Every setup requires unique overall balance and that part requires refinement. Obviously driver skill is very important as well to harness the best out of the car.

Agreed, dedicated setups are the way to go. I have a set of Feal 441s and while I have not driven on more expensive setups, but I can personally say they behave great at the track, including Sebring's bumpy turn 17. However, they seem to do even better at the Autocross.

Sorry to quote from 4 months ago but this just pissed me off. Why don't you get off your ass and call Odi? Better yet, you can PM me your number and I'll have him call you when I pick up my 'custom' configuration tomorrow...oh wait...he WILL be assembling them by hand so I'll have to hold it for him.


It's just the blatant ignorance of your post that got my attention. I just searched 'Feal' on the forums to see if anyone was using them since I'm grabbing a set tomorrow. You'd be surprised just how incorrect you are.

Odi called me to talk about my sti revalves going on my forester a few years ago.

Unless somethings changed hes the one doing the work. Of course that was a while back and before all the coils being sold.

Just called him to see if I can swing by tomorrow. I was asking about different 441 setups and he said that there are variations for street, road race, and even off-road. He and his brother are the main people in the shop whenever I've been down his way. He even said that he would need a minimum 24hr notice on what I wanted because it has to be assembled by him before I can pick it up. When I said what I was hoping to achieve (low ride but above average comfort) he said he could definitely fine-tune a street/road race variation to suit my needs. He's still doing all the work. Last I remember coming from his own mouth was that he isn't even drifting that much because he focuses on his shop a lot more. I'm pretty sure that I was at his shop when he said that. Awesome, stand up guy in a business that's seeing too many outsourced Chinese parts labeled as Japanese.

He is a legit dude. He used to do all my dirt bike revalves and rebuilds when I was riding a ton. He is good at what he does.

I will be going the feal route on my car as well eventually.

you missed the point of my post entirely but good for you!

Enlighten me, please. I'm only pointing out that you lumped this particular producer into a category that most others fit into. This is the internet and here you can post random bullshit without any basis in facts because you can do it anonymously and simply ignore any flak you might receive. Just because you CAN, however, does't mean you SHOULD.


'Merica.

the original post, which has since been extensively edited, was a grammatical nightmare and read like a copy-pasted, b-rated, tuner-mag-styled marketing hype containing all noise and no signal.



By your own admission, you stumbled in here quite late and choose to pick a fight with a non-issue as I explicitly stated to keep original wording pertaining to a single sentence if Odi did in fact build each shock individually. I wasn’t denouncing the claim merely questioning it, as I was under the impression FEAL suspensions are assembled by HotBits according to a specified design.



If this has since changed then good for them, but again, that wasn’t the point of my post.



You stumbled into a party that has long since been brought to a close, the floors cleaned, the walls painted and the house sold to a new owner who is now half-chuckling at the sight of you standing there with your hat on backwards, bottle of 40 in hand, demanding to be let in cuz Joey told you it was gonna be dope.

...if you weren't so up your own ass with trying to dazzle the folks on here with your eloquent use of the English language I'd give you props. Unfortunately, you seem like an egotistical twat.

The issue is with your 'questioning' because you ONLY questioned his statement. Why not fish out an answer yourself instead of posting on this thread? Maybe my posting here is a form of forum-karma you brought upon yourself?

This reply goes to the idiot that thinks he's smarter than the rest of us. If the OP wants to write Odi assembled these naked at night wearing night vision goggles then who the hell are you to say other wise. You may be great with grammar but and idiot when it comes to understanding "the point"of this thread. Aside from that! Does anyone know if the coil overs adjust rebound only or rebound/compression together like the BC coils. Thanks.

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That's a pretty impressive necro.