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ravenblackfrs 01-16-2013 10:10 PM

The perfect FRS/BRZ
 
What would you do to make your FRS/BRZ the perfect car to you, money isn't an issue.... AND..... GO!

(Make a list of all the items and things you would do. Just want to see what you guys would add, take away, or do to your car)

Low&Slow 01-16-2013 10:14 PM

I would have my dream set of rims (Works) and an air suspension, along with the Japanese GT86 parts and conversion. A turbo kit, and last but not least, a great sound system! :)

ravenblackfrs 01-16-2013 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low&Slow (Post 670182)
I would have my dream set of rims (Works) and an air suspension, along with the Japanese GT86 parts and conversion. A turbo kit, and last but not least, a great sound system! :)


Sounds like an excellent "GT86"!!! :thumbsup: What rims would you do? What size? How much power would you want from it?

boredom.is.me 01-16-2013 10:22 PM

Nothing serious for the exterior, but definitely some go power.

- some carbon fiber lip kit
- trunk lip spoiler
- brembo front and rear brakes
- 18"x8.5"/9.5" Don't know what
- a big turbo
- every scion badge replaced with toyota, even steering wheel, leave fr-s mats in though
- lights, interior and exterior
- some exhaust that cost at least $1K
- some coilover set that cost at least $4k

Done

Low&Slow 01-16-2013 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenblackfrs (Post 670193)
Sounds like an excellent "GT86"!!! :thumbsup: What rims would you do? What size? How much power would you want from it?

Thank you! :thumbup: I was planning on getting Work emotion XD9 in white! :happy0180: Offset:
18x9.0 +38mm 2" Lip for the Front | 18x10.0 +38mm 3" Lip for the back!
I'm not asking much for hp wise, maybe 300-350? :D

ravenblackfrs 01-16-2013 10:24 PM

1) Complete debadge and rebadge Toyota GT 86. Including steering wheel!
2) 18x9 rims, not sure what rims though.
3)Turbo - Supercharged if numbers and stability were better for my A/T.
4) Rear deck lip or spoiler, or the subie style wing, haven't decided which way I'd go. Probably spoiler. Don't want the RICER look.
5) Android dash install with component speakers up front, 2 10's in the trunk mounted to the sides to maintain some type of trunk space.
6) Trim tabs above the rear window like the subies... only because I think it makes it look cool, not a necessity though.
7) Blacked out heads and tails with hid kit.
8) Removable center arm console.


:) Wish I was rich!!!

Ingen 01-16-2013 10:25 PM

Lightened Pulleys, a lightened driveshaft, center locking 17x8 carbon wheels (under 10 lbs each plz) and the borla race only full exhaust, and an intake and tune to go with.

Loud, quick and tastefully excessive.

Inside I want an arm rest and the ability to adjust the height of the front of the seat bottom.

Also footwell lights, because they be mad tight yo.. And so I can see.

An oil temp and pressure gauge would be cool but I don't think I really need it.

ravenblackfrs 01-16-2013 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low&Slow (Post 670208)
Thank you! :thumbup: I was planning on getting Work emotion XD9 in white! :happy0180: Offset:
18x9.0 +38mm 2" Lip for the Front | 18x10.0 +38mm 3" Lip for the back!
I'm not asking much for hp wise, maybe 300-350? :D


I was thinking 250-325 rwhp. If anything more torque would feel better. But thats a byproduct of more hp I suppose.

bdohazelnuts 01-16-2013 10:27 PM

Not a question of what I WOULD do, more like what I WILL do. My ultimate goal is to get it down to around 2500 lbs, put in a good turbo system for roughly 330 whp, focused on responsiveness, heat dissipation, and reliability, solid suspension upgrade, likely 10" wheels in back and 9" in front, big brakes, and a front air dam and rear wing.

Basically just want to make it that much more fun.

ravenblackfrs 01-16-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdohazelnuts (Post 670218)
Not a question of what I WOULD do, more like what I WILL do. My ultimate goal is to get it down to around 2500 lbs, put in a good turbo system for roughly 330 whp, focused on responsiveness, heat dissipation, and reliability, solid suspension upgrade, likely 10" wheels in back and 9" in front, big brakes, and a front air dam and rear wing.

Basically just want to make it that much more fun.


All of that sounds good to. I hope to do all of mine, but shit, trying to save and buy a house. I like all your ideas too. Reading what everyone would do or will do or have done makes me love mine all that much more! :party0030: :happyanim:

circuithero 01-16-2013 10:45 PM

As I see it, the car is nearly perfect. In honda speak, this car is a GSR and I want it to be an ITR. Or conversely for porshe this would be the GT3 and I want the GT3 RS. This car will serve as a permanent DD and a weekend warrior. I want to visit a couple of the new tracks that have popped up on the west coast, and hit PIR this summer a couple times as well.

So:
Reliable, simple boltons for 30-50hp, NA. No boost. Not in a hurry, Ill let the parts develop and copy someones formula.
Drop 100-150lb without compromising the comfort or interior of the car via:
-17x9 RPF1's w/225 RS3's
-10lb battery
-Loose the junk in the trunk
-FIA Bucket for driver
-AP Racing Sprints up front (-20lb Unsprung!)

Aside from that, hook up my SoloDL and chase porsches :D. Rinse and repeat!

whaap 01-16-2013 10:49 PM

I would make it a two seater hatchback. I would do a better job selecting wheels for the car. Nothing would be fake. If something looked like carbon fiber it would be carbon fiber. If something looked like a vent, no matter how small it was, it would be a vent. There would be a cover/armrest standard instead of a growel tube. I would have leather seats. While I was at it I would probably add 20 hp.
:burnrubber:

fatoni 01-16-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenblackfrs (Post 670217)
I was thinking 250-325 rwhp. If anything more torque would feel better. But thats a byproduct of more hp I suppose.

its the other way around i think

dorifuto 01-16-2013 11:16 PM

Rocket bunny
Asf machine street sweeper long block
Boost
And go fast

Vracer111 01-16-2013 11:18 PM

1. Get rid of the useless analog speedometer and put in actual oil temp and oil pressure gauges in it's place. (will be integrating a dual oil pressure/temp gauge into steering column cover...)

2. Get rid of that torque dip...power should be linearly responsive no matter the load and rpm range.

3. The seats do not go low enough...need seats to go 2" lower (have plans to remedy this)

4. Oil cooler needs to be installed (will be doing my own oil cooling system.)

5. Needs more front camber adjustment (will be fixing that soon...)

6. Better brake system truly designed for heavy track use (have plans for that but $$$)

7. Get rid of the fake 'sound tube' intake system. (already done)

8. Put a better exhaust system that really belongs on the car (already done)

9. Put real functional fender garnish/vent pieces on the front fenders...(thinking of the TRD ones...but $$$ for what they are.)

10. Some kind of spoiler is needed on the rear...have yet to see one I really like and would not mind sticking on the car though - I want it to be like a part of the trunk, not a stuck on trim piece...

11. Engine RPMs could be more responsive to throttle input...thinking lightweight flywheel should have been standard (I very much plan on upgrading to one, but not a priority at this time)

chenshuo 01-16-2013 11:27 PM

if money was not an issue i would replace every single part of my brz with ferrari parts and make it a ferrari. of course i'd hire a team of ferrari specialists since money is not an issue. ;-)

bdohazelnuts 01-16-2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circuithero (Post 670261)
As I see it, the car is nearly perfect. In honda speak, this car is a GSR and I want it to be an ITR. Or conversely for porshe this would be the GT3 and I want the GT3 RS. This car will serve as a permanent DD and a weekend warrior. I want to visit a couple of the new tracks that have popped up on the west coast, and hit PIR this summer a couple times as well.

So:
Reliable, simple boltons for 30-50hp, NA. No boost. Not in a hurry, Ill let the parts develop and copy someones formula.
Drop 100-150lb without compromising the comfort or interior of the car via:
-17x9 RPF1's w/225 RS3's
-10lb battery
-Loose the junk in the trunk
-FIA Bucket for drive

Aside from that, hook up my SoloDL and chase porsches :D. Rinse and repeat!

I think that I am looking to do this actually more short term... All but the seat probably. I am definitely getting a works drop in, and one of the silicon intake pipes, and considering one of the nameless exhausts with one of the e85 or flexfuel reflashes.

Having a hard time deciding whether to do so now, or just save and wait until I can drop a turbo kit into it.

koyv90 01-16-2013 11:42 PM

400whp turbo kit, a nice oem style carbon fiber hood, built engine with lower compression maybe 10: something, and the Aero package from Germany with the more expensive hid head lights, oh and 17x9 gramlights 57, with kw coilovers.

boonFRS 01-16-2013 11:47 PM

9000hp!

Nah I kid. I would like a bit more power and less weight. 275whp and around 2200lbs.

Draco-REX 01-16-2013 11:48 PM

I'd do this:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/8...f77d76e6_b.jpg
Oh wait.. I already did. :D

Well, maybe I'd add an Innovate Supercharger. :)

But since we're working with someone else's money.....

I'd build a second BRZ, do a full tear down and rebuild into a hill-climb monster complete with widebody and 500hp turbo build with anti-lag tune.

Surok 01-16-2013 11:53 PM

2GRFSE thanks. stock everything else. oh and a decent clutch.

JoeBoxer 01-16-2013 11:55 PM

The Subaru premium sport concept is almost perfect to me, add a litchfield supercharger and I'd be happy with that.

Otherwise I'd start with a wrb brz, add the Ings kit, SSR wheels in gold with polished lip, racecomp Tarmac II coilovers and sways. This one would be more extreme so Crawford spec c turbo kit and short block. Ap racing/Stillen front and rear brake kits too.

Demandred7 01-17-2013 12:39 AM

Grimmspeed brake reinforcement
GT86 climate control, headlights, foglights, and spoiler
Nameless header back exhaust
Wheels (Work, Volk, or TSW) with tires that are better in the wet (maybe Bridgestone Potenzas)
And last, but, certainly not least, some sort of supercharger (probably Vortech or TRD)

ravenblackfrs 01-17-2013 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demandred7 (Post 670467)
Grimmspeed brake reinforcement
GT86 climate control, headlights, foglights, and spoiler
Nameless header back exhaust
Wheels (Work, Volk, or TSW) with tires that are better in the wet (maybe Bridgestone Potenzas)
And last, but, certainly not least, some sort of supercharger (probably Vortech or TRD)


I wouldnt be opposed to TRD. But I think a third party or independent performance shops supercharger will do a little more than the TRD one. I like the vortech stuff perrin is doing. I'm going to save until my warranty is out to do the s/c. Are the potenzas good in water?? I know Michelin makes some pretty good ones for driving in water.

6-Shift 01-17-2013 01:21 AM

Well then:
To design itself: make car hatchback. To MY car:
1. Replace every removeable body panel with carbon fiber
2. some sort of tall time attack spoiler
3. superlight racing wheels
4. Brembo big brake kit front and rear
5. coilovers that raise and lower from controller but handle like stock
6. some supercharger
7. UEL header and full custom exhaust from HKS
8. Headlights produced by Audi
9. full selectable underglow kit (why not?)
10. TRD leather seats
11. Full audio setup from JL audio, tuned by Bose engineers
Think that basically covers it.

akyp 01-17-2013 01:22 AM

Keeping it bone stock.

I guess I'm not very picky.

Demandred7 01-17-2013 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenblackfrs (Post 670501)
I wouldnt be opposed to TRD. But I think a third party or independent performance shops supercharger will do a little more than the TRD one. I like the vortech stuff perrin is doing. I'm going to save until my warranty is out to do the s/c. Are the potenzas good in water?? I know Michelin makes some pretty good ones for driving in water.

I don't have my heart set on the TRD one. I am liking what I read in the Vortech/Perrin thread and may actually go that way. If money was no object, I wouldn't care about warranty. Every Michelin tire that I have ever owned have been horrible in the rain while every Bridgestone Potenza that I have owned have been great in the rain (both with respect to traction and anti-hydroplaning). It is somewhat of a generalization based on my own experience (although I haven't driven every type from both brands).

DBacon1052 01-17-2013 01:45 AM

I would tear it down to the steering wheel and build an Audi R8 around it(:

Demandred7 01-17-2013 02:34 AM

Money is no object to the extreme, I would buy an exotic as well. Porsche 911 Turbo, Ferrari 458 Italia/F12 Berlinetta, Audi R8 GT would top my list.

Supermassive 01-17-2013 03:22 AM

Everything I have done so far here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13381

Plus:

Sparco Milano Seats (Red of course)
Essex AP Racing Endurance brakes
Braided brake lines
Beefier ring and pinion set
CF Driveshaft
Beefier drive axles.
22MM front/16MM rear swaybars
Password JDM strut tower bracing
Password JDM CF Intake Manifold cover
Password JDM engine bay dress up kit (Red)
Tom's Taillights
BRZ Headlights

Well that's all that's left on my shopping list...I'm sure theres more that I can come up with!

ravenblackfrs 01-17-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermassive (Post 670674)
Everything I have done so far here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13381

Plus:

Sparco Milano Seats (Red of course)
Essex AP Racing Endurance brakes
Braided brake lines
Beefier ring and pinion set
CF Driveshaft
Beefier drive axles.
22MM front/16MM rear swaybars
Password JDM strut tower bracing
Password JDM CF Intake Manifold cover
Password JDM engine bay dress up kit (Red)
Tom's Taillights
BRZ Headlights

Well that's all that's left on my shopping list...I'm sure theres more that I can come up with!


Nice freaking build! The car is badass! :party0030:

Exhaust 01-17-2013 09:28 PM

Obviously a power bump of about 60HP with a supercharger that would put it at 210whp then add a intake + exhaust which net around (from what ive seen) about a 12hp gain then a throttle body, light pully/fly wheel for acceleration/torque and weight. Thats a comfortable 222bwhp for me and a monster of a track car. I dont think the FRS needs sways and if I did it would be the front for more oversteer. But the BRZ needs them in both rear/front for sure. On top of that I would add wider tires in the rear to balance the power to weight ratio for grip. I dont think CF for a car like this would make that much of a different due to the weight. Im also looking into a good rear seat delete just worried about rattles. Clear turn signals would be fine, and ofcourse if I do go through with the BRZ on GBS BBS wheels would look greaaaaat. Oh and I forgot 600cc fuel injectors for bragging rights and ofcourse, headers. Not sure what I want to do with the gear ratios yet, from what I drove I like them as is, but they may need to change to a more conservative feel from what I listed above. OH OH! AND COILOVERS FOR EVEN LOWER COG!

What do you all think?:)

(Saving up so I can buy the car and afford all these mods. Its my todo list :) )

dori. 01-17-2013 09:41 PM

the perfect FRS...

one that I can buy and not give a fuck about

would love to have one as a missile car

put a turbo on it, some deep dishies, slam it

and slide it into concrete walls @ 60 mph



sadly I have to still pay my car off, and it is too nice to abuse that way.

Exhaust 01-17-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dori. (Post 672488)
the perfect FRS...

one that I can buy and not give a fuck about

would love to have one as a missile car

put a turbo on it, some deep dishies, slam it

and slide it into concrete walls @ 60 mph



sadly I have to still pay my car off, and it is too nice to abuse that way.

Idk about the concrete walls part....

CircuitJerk 01-17-2013 10:01 PM

ONE MILLION HORSEPOWAAARS!
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia...on_dollars.jpg

dori. 01-17-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 672507)
Idk about the concrete walls part....

I do http://twitchtvfaces.com/images/MVGame.png

JoeBoxer 01-17-2013 10:44 PM

I still say the premium sport concept with a nice supercharger kit would be the ultimate dd. I'm in love with that concept although my other build mentioned earlier would end up being a 60k brz.

Supermassive 01-18-2013 01:48 AM

To be honest, now that i think of it, the perfect FR-S is exactly as it comes stock...I was thinking about this as i was destroying my oil pan trying to take it off so i could put my new one on. A car is only as perfect as you make it for yourself and i feel like so many people get lost in the idea that this car needs more of some such thing like power or suspension or a better interior. the thing is that everyone has a different idea of what perfect is...so the perfect car is a car that you can easily make into what you want.

The aftermarket and support for this car is tremendous and is growing exponentially so soon you will have so many possibilities of upgrades that no two cars will ever be the same...this is what makes a car perfect in my eyes. I had the opportunity to buy one of the greatest cars on the road, a 2009 Nissan GT-R and decided on the FR-S instead because i knew I would be able to spend the money I had for the GT-R to make my FR-S exactly the way I want it...and in the process learn this car inside and out. Sure I could have done the same to the GT-R but the price of admission is way more expensive...and if you thought parts for the FR-S were expensive, just look at parts for the GT-R, it will give you a new sense of how affordable the FR-S is.

ravenblackfrs 01-18-2013 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermassive (Post 673005)
...so the perfect car is a car that you can easily make into what you want.

Lol, thats the reason for the thread. What would make "YOUR" perfect frs/brz.

Stock with more power... not much, stay 50hp.... Spoiler, fog lamps, exhaust...better tunes, sub with indash 7" screen... thats about it. If it takes a s/c to get 50 hp then throw it on and let me go. I don't track my car. Its a weekend warrior. Or when I'm going out of town with the ol lady. Other than that, it sits in the driveway with a cover over it.

Some guys mention rear seat deletes and staggering and rebuilding engines... shit, thats all a bit extreme to me. I just want more get up, but for the thrill. Not to track and run "miata" lines and all that other stuff...lol

Supermassive 01-18-2013 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravenblackfrs (Post 673028)
Lol, thats the reason for the thread. What would make "YOUR" perfect frs/brz.

Stock with more power... not much, stay 50hp.... Spoiler, fog lamps, exhaust...better tunes, sub with indash 7" screen... thats about it. If it takes a s/c to get 50 hp then throw it on and let me go. I don't track my car. Its a weekend warrior. Or when I'm going out of town with the ol lady. Other than that, it sits in the driveway with a cover over it.

Some guys mention rear seat deletes and staggering and rebuilding engines... shit, thats all a bit extreme to me. I just want more get up, but for the thrill. Not to track and run "miata" lines and all that other stuff...lol

Yeah I know it's what you make of it. I will have this car finished this year so i can start my next car. This car is kind of like my guilty pleasure, it's taken 16 years for me to have a job that pays me enough to actually build a car like this so I'm indulging my childhood dreams of building cars...doesn't hurt being single with no kids ;)


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