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twincamRob 01-14-2013 09:49 PM

DIY__twincamRob's 5min Whiteline Positive Shift bushing install
 
Went to install this bushing tonight and got to looking at it and thought to myself, there's got to be an easier way. Sure enough, there is. All you need to remove is one 10mm bolt and one 19mm bolt. Here's some pics of how I did it...


example pic borrowed from Whiteline
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3088/76405696.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4042/13772144.jpg

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4416/97339766.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8074/24881876.jpg


**Disclaimer: Do at your own risk. I hold no responsibility for injury, damage or spontaneous combustion.**

I<3Twisties 01-19-2013 02:36 AM

awesome write up! i really wanted to install it but didn't think i can do it myself.

funbeatsfast 02-07-2013 02:23 PM

So simple...
After reading other DIY's I was prepared to spend a whole day on the install. This way literally takes 5 minutes. Maybe less, since the car was already on jack stands.
Well done write up, twincamRob. Please continue to simplify my life.

post_break 02-07-2013 02:33 PM

Sorry but I find this install method a bit dangerous. You're putting a lot of pressure on the transmission to push it up enough to clear the bushing. But to each their own. Also you forgot the torque values but now I'm just being a jerk.;)

F1point4 02-07-2013 03:00 PM

I feel there is great risk jacking up and supporting the gearbox soley using the exhaust hanger bracket. It is interesting there are alternative ways to install the piece.

twincamRob 02-08-2013 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by post_break (Post 718942)
Also you forgot the torque values but now I'm just being a jerk.;)

They're included with the bushing... :slap:



Quote:

Originally Posted by F1point4 (Post 719033)
I feel there is great risk jacking up and supporting the gearbox soley using the exhaust hanger bracket. It is interesting there are alternative ways to install the piece.

If the jack 'supporting' the trans did fail all that would happen is it would fall back into place on the mount. So you could say my way is 'safer' since there is something to 'catch' the transmission in case of a jack failure. Also the exhaust hanger bracket is a vertical piece bolted directly to the transmission so it is fine for no more than it's lifting. Most of the real weight is supported by the engine mounts. You could probably lift it by hand back there and not even use a jack there if you really wanted...

zc06_kisstherain 07-05-2013 09:43 PM

I need to install mine soon and have question.

i copied F1Piont4's picture
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8330/8...a516a95c_c.jpg

don't i need to remove 1 center T bolt nut and 2 side nuts to raise transmission? because brackets are holding by 3 nuts to that Insulator.
you said you only removed 1 center T bolt nut.

zc06_kisstherain 07-07-2013 04:16 PM

I just installed mine and this method worked great! it wasnt danagerous at all!
BTW, center nut is 17mm not 19mm


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps07805927.jpg

I put bushing word "Whiteline" facing front.
does it really matter? if it is, i am just going to change it again when i do my oil change.
too tired to fix it now since i installed front pipe with it.

Ryaquinn 07-09-2013 02:43 PM

Whiteline should be visible from the rear

zc06_kisstherain 07-09-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryaquinn (Post 1055487)
Whiteline should be visible from the rear

that's what i thought too.
i went to whiteline homepage and their installed picture is what i have.
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_detail4.php?part_number=KDT926

I guess it doesnt really matter where word goes to either front or rear.

I also sent an e-mail to whiteline to confirm it whether it should matter or not but havent received e-mail back.

Ryaquinn 07-09-2013 05:13 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19782

Check out this one. If you look at the bushing piece there is a ledge on the side that says whiteline, different from other side of it as if to act as a brace.

zc06_kisstherain 07-09-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryaquinn (Post 1055970)
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19782

Check out this one. If you look at the bushing piece there is a ledge on the side that says whiteline, different from other side of it as if to act as a brace.

I saw that thread as well and already know that. when i look at engine insulator either front or back, both has edges that work as brace. this is why i am thinking that installing it from either front or rear doesn't really matter.

more confusing is, when i read Whiteline's instruction, there is no mentioning about insert from front or rear either.
also Whiteline's website has installed picture as well (Whiteline word is visible from front)

I still did not received e-mail back from whiteline yet.

It's no big deal that i can re-install but it seems it doesn't really matter. ( correct me if i am wrong)
if Whiteline said it doesnt matter, i don't have to waste my time re-installing this.

hope someone can hop in and explain more detailed info if experienced with this.

also found video of whiteline's
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLzMO6_ZNHk"]BRZ / 86 / FR-S Whiteline Positive Shift Kit - YouTube[/ame]

zc06_kisstherain 07-11-2013 01:49 AM

still did not hear anything from Whiteline's. what a great customer service!

jybrd 07-20-2013 08:20 PM

Dont mean to get kind of off topic, but what does this part do for you?

RallySport Direct 07-22-2013 12:19 PM

Thanks @twincamRob I used this method to install mine last night and took all of 3 minutes. I did not even have to take off the under panel, and I also feel like you could lift the rear of the transmission with your hand and insert the bushing, so I was not too worried about the stress on the exhaust bracket.

Also, your last 2 pictures do not seem to be working, just a heads up :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by jybrd (Post 1084779)
Dont mean to get kind of off topic, but what does this part do for you?


This will fill in the voids of the factory bushing, essentially making the factory bushing stiffer. It is a great alternative to an aftermarket transmission mount for someone who wants to stiffen the mount up a bit. :)


Thanks,
Rick

zc06_kisstherain 08-01-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel TongTechnical Sales SupportRedranger USA/ Whiteline USA
Thank you for contacting Whiteline. I apologize your email was not replied to in a timely manner. The KDT926 will work effectively regardless of which direction the word WHITELINE can be read from. The orientation facing front or rear is cosmetic. Once again, we apologize for the delay. Please do not hesitate to contact us via phone or email, if you have any additional questions. Thank you for your support.

ok. I just received confirmed e-mail back from Whiteline and install from front or rear doesn't really matter. hope this helps for many memebers who is going to install bushing.

Trettiosjuan 03-07-2014 11:08 AM

This is how I did it:
- Drove up a ramp
- removed the undertray
- removed the central nut (17mm with me, not 19mm)
- wedged in the insert from the front and then hammered it in - swing room enough - while simultaneously giving upward pushes to the gearbox by hand. Bit crude but went down nevertheless.
- Refit

The whole thing took me half an hour taking it easy, alone, most time spent reaching for those undertray screws that were obscured by the ramp...

The increase in NVH is quite noticeable on an almost stock car, do like the harder engine note and the whole feel of the mod esp. in high revs.

FR-Slide 03-07-2014 10:11 PM

This is one of the first mods I did on my S4, as I HATE driveline slop under deceleration or in traffic.

I'm not as familiar with the driveline of the 86 though. I know that there are both bushings and mounts, and then this Whiteline kit.

FT86SF has some packages that have both the Whiteline kit and a Perrin trans mount. The mount is aluminum, with almost no deflection allowed. With both of those on (on a DD street car), would the NVH be too crazy? I hate not having a tight driveline, but don't want to shake the mirrors loose either.

SciOnDrifTtSlIdeR 03-09-2014 05:29 AM

this seems like a good simple mod... i am also curious about the perrin aluminum mount

Mikepage 03-16-2014 03:30 PM

Is that method is really safe?

zc06_kisstherain 03-17-2014 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikepage (Post 1603618)
Is that method is really safe?

Yes

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Mikepage 03-26-2014 09:26 PM

DIY__twincamRob's 5min Whiteline Positive Shift bushing install
 
@twincamRob i want to say to you Thank you for your how to, it work perfectly and this is not dangerous at all because you just need to raise the trany less then 2 or 3 cm.

SPCorBUST 05-06-2014 02:14 AM

Great write up @twincamRob.

I used this method and it took me hardly any time at all.

One thing I forgot to do was grease the bushing before installation. No problem, since it was so easy to put in / take out to begin with. So future users, don't forget to do this!

Anyhoo, thank you sir!

jvincent 07-02-2014 10:53 AM

Props to @twincamRob for this.

I installed my bushing yesterday and doing it this way cut my under-car time considerably.

protpibe 07-08-2014 10:44 PM

Great writeup! It's an awesome time saver if you're just installing just the 1 bushing.

Pat 11-03-2014 06:55 PM

I used this method and it was great. I think all you really need to do is undo the 17 mm t-bolt, use the OEM jack to push the exhaust hanger up one or two centimeters and insert the new bushing from the passenger side front. Super easy.
Thanks for the post!

Phaedrus29 09-23-2015 08:11 PM

Just used this method for the install...I put "Whiteline" facing forward. When I tigthened down the nut on the "T"-bolt the "T" isn't centered in the space. Does that matter?

zc06_kisstherain 09-24-2015 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaedrus29 (Post 2399538)
Just used this method for the install...I put "Whiteline" facing forward. When I tigthened down the nut on the "T"-bolt the "T" isn't centered in the space. Does that matter?

sup? long time no talk. haha

doesnt matter. mine is not centered either. i looked at it for like 10 min and think about does it really needs to be centered? lol

surfwaxsmitty 06-09-2017 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trettiosjuan (Post 1581293)
This is how I did it:
- Drove up a ramp
- removed the undertray
- removed the central nut (17mm with me, not 19mm)
- wedged in the insert from the front and then hammered it in - swing room enough - while simultaneously giving upward pushes to the gearbox by hand. Bit crude but went down nevertheless.
- Refit

The whole thing took me half an hour taking it easy, alone, most time spent reaching for those undertray screws that were obscured by the ramp...

The increase in NVH is quite noticeable on an almost stock car, do like the harder engine note and the whole feel of the mod esp. in high revs.

Just installed using this method. Everything went well.

Question, I also noticed a significant increase in engine note throughout the entire RPM range. This occurs in gear moving or not moving, as well as out of gear. Have other people also noticed this?

My car has all stock bushings otherwise. Also stock exhaust and intake/filter.

Vibration increased through the entire RPM range as well.

Other than that you can tell there is certainly a much more solid connection between the transmission and the chassis. You can hear the hollow tones, the gear engagement and a moderate whine now and then. My shifter rattle has increased a fair amount above 4.5k which is where it would be fire to a lesser degree.

Yes, main question, does everyone else experience the engine note being increased quite a bit through all RPMs?

Trettiosjuan 06-10-2017 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfwaxsmitty (Post 2926124)

Yes, main question, does everyone else experience the engine note being increased quite a bit through all RPMs?

I could mainly hear a lot more whine from the gearbox. My car is a commuter car and I grew tired of the added NVH. So after a year or so removed it and it felt like a huge relief! Silence at last (well not really, but you get it). And when doing clean shifts (not rushed and with some mechanical sense), there is no need for it either, haven't missed it since even on performance drives (almost 2 years now?)...

zc06_kisstherain 06-30-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surfwaxsmitty (Post 2926124)
Just installed using this method. Everything went well.

Question, I also noticed a significant increase in engine note throughout the entire RPM range. This occurs in gear moving or not moving, as well as out of gear. Have other people also noticed this?

My car has all stock bushings otherwise. Also stock exhaust and intake/filter.

Vibration increased through the entire RPM range as well.

Other than that you can tell there is certainly a much more solid connection between the transmission and the chassis. You can hear the hollow tones, the gear engagement and a moderate whine now and then. My shifter rattle has increased a fair amount above 4.5k which is where it would be fire to a lesser degree.

Yes, main question, does everyone else experience the engine note being increased quite a bit through all RPMs?


didnt know this method worked. jacking up front pipe hanger like 1 inch is much easier though.


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