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FA20Club.com 01-14-2013 09:47 PM

FA20CLUB Power Pack #1 Tested
 
We've been working on an affordable package to bump up the power and not break the bank. We finally got a chance to get it on a local Dynojet for apples/apples comparisons.

Power Pack Components:
FA20Club Front Over Pipe
FA20Club Front Pipe Catless
aFe Dry Intake System


Tested numbers with the combined tune were 183.84HP 144.85TQ not bad for a total of only about $1600.00 invest with a tune. Thats what we call bang for the buck. And these numbers were in Florida heat/humidity index.

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/...psa3b20d86.jpg

mashal 01-14-2013 09:51 PM

Get to 200hp NA, you will have all my money !
I still have to run the stage 2 you sent me, it's just do damn cold outside 😢

greenguy101 01-14-2013 09:53 PM

Are you going to be offering the front pipe and over pipe separately? I already have the AFE/Greddy intake.

DarkCard 01-14-2013 10:03 PM

ONLY 1600?!

2forme 01-14-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkCard (Post 665424)
ONLY 1600?!

I'm assuming that comes with a tune. There's no way an I/E on a stock tune is making 185 whp LOL.

Boost_Junkie 01-14-2013 10:27 PM

Where are you guys located? I'd be really interested in an in house tune. I'm up in Tampa.

DIM 01-14-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 665451)
I'm assuming that comes with a tune. There's no way an I/E on a stock tune is making 185 whp LOL.

DDPR hit 190whp STOCK with just a tune. I think it's funny for $1600, you can get 185whp with mods. :lol:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted2.0 (Post 658536)
We just hit 190 with tuning on our stock car yesterday. Its a healthy motor though - put down 177 stock with the stock tune.

http://www.ddperformanceresearch.com...tek%20tune.jpg


2forme 01-14-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIM (Post 665494)
DDPR hit 190whp STOCK with just a tune. I think it's funny for $1600, you can get 185whp with mods. :lol:

DDPR also hit "177whp" before tuning. So a gain of 13 is within the realm of possibility :)

seven 01-14-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 665553)
DDPR also hit "177whp" before tuning. So a gain of 13 is within the realm of possibility :)

Yeah, it's about the before/after.... Dynos are apples to apples.
Gains over stock is apples to apples.

xwd 01-14-2013 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIM (Post 665494)
DDPR hit 190whp STOCK with just a tune. I think it's funny for $1600, you can get 185whp with mods. :lol:

What a stupid post, fitting username. Yeah 13whp... You are making them look bad.

Great job FA20.

cruzinbill 01-15-2013 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 665379)
We've been working on an affordable package to bump up the power and not break the bank. We finally got a chance to get it on a local Dynojet for apples/apples comparisons.

Power Pack Components:
FA20Club Front Over Pipe
FA20Club Front Pipe Catless
aFe Dry Intake System


Tested numbers with the combined tune were 183.84HP 144.85TQ not bad for a total of only about $1600.00 invest with a tune. Thats what we call bang for the buck. And these numbers were in Florida heat/humidity index.

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/...psa3b20d86.jpg

E85 or 93? if 93 then I def wanna see with E85!

deucethemoose 01-15-2013 12:08 AM

@Drift-Office did better on mine with a tune and AVO's intake. Hell of a lot cheaper than $1600.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ps685543fc.jpg

DIM 01-15-2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx (Post 665602)
What a stupid post, fitting username. Yeah 13whp... You are making them look bad.

Great job FA20.

What a stupid post? You mad bro? I'm just showing what potential this car has stock with a little tuning. I'm not meaning for them to look bad, sorry if I did.

And 13 whp is a lot when your comparing stock ---> mods.

Lonewolf 01-15-2013 12:55 AM

Different cars, different dynos, different dyno conditions play a HUGE role in the hp numbers achieved. Crimony, you have to look at the numbers over stock with the same car, on the same dyno, in the same conditions...:bonk:

industrial 01-15-2013 02:32 AM

Comparing different dynos and cars is pretty dumb. Might as well compare track times from different tracks.

Seems like a nice package.

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIM (Post 665494)
DDPR hit 190whp STOCK with just a tune. I think it's funny for $1600, you can get 185whp with mods. :lol:

LOL not bad considering it was 69 degrees. That car would never make that in florida its like comparing a dyno run in high elevation to ours its not the same situation. Most cars even with a tune one isnt making that in our weather. Infact even there base run was on a different date with 80 degrees and low humidity. Our stage 2 tune makes about 7-8whp more power in other areas of the country due to geographic location alone.

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 665616)
E85 or 93? if 93 then I def wanna see with E85!

e85 is next

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenguy101 (Post 665398)
Are you going to be offering the front pipe and over pipe separately? I already have the AFE/Greddy intake.

they have been available for a while now on our site for sale

DarkSunrise 01-15-2013 09:22 AM

Need a baseline dyno.

Opposed 01-15-2013 11:21 AM

Was this with your stage2 tune? Sorry, not sure if I saw it mentioned.

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise (Post 666170)
Need a baseline dyno.

car baselined on another local dynojet a couple weeks prior at 160hp without tune or mods. it wasnt on this dyno

DarkSunrise 01-15-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 666361)
car baselined on another local dynojet a couple weeks prior at 160hp without tune or mods. it wasnt on this dyno

OK. Just looking for a way to figure out what the actual gains were on the same dyno.

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 02:11 PM

most dynojet numbers are comparable but you have to remember that geographic location plays allot in end results. this car be it was not dyno'd prior on the same dyno the baseline is still valid since we are located in the same general area

Saab2Frs 01-15-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 665379)
We've been working on an affordable package to bump up the power and not break the bank. We finally got a chance to get it on a local Dynojet for apples/apples comparisons.

Power Pack Components:
FA20Club Front Over Pipe
FA20Club Front Pipe Catless
aFe Dry Intake System


Tested numbers with the combined tune were 183.84HP 144.85TQ not bad for a total of only about $1600.00 invest with a tune. Thats what we call bang for the buck. And these numbers were in Florida heat/humidity index.

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/...psa3b20d86.jpg

I know i have asked this and it's probably been answered, but any dyno numbers with just your intake system and does the intake system require a tune?

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 02:36 PM

my car will be going back to stock later on this week to get our intake as well as another one tested with and without a tune

Saab2Frs 01-15-2013 02:38 PM

Awesome. Keep us posted! If a tune is required then Im going to have to hold off for more $$$ since I just purhased a Perrin carback.

FA20Club.com 01-15-2013 03:26 PM

already stated in the intake thread no tune needed our intake doesnt bog or cause flat spots

Saab2Frs 01-15-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 666865)
already stated in the intake thread no tune needed our intake doesnt bog or cause flat spots

Okay thanks for reminding me. Im in my iphone in between meetings and it's sloooow going trying to open different pages.

Boosted2.0 01-16-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 665553)
DDPR also hit "177whp" before tuning. So a gain of 13 is within the realm of possibility :)

Saw myself tagged in here.

Why the quotes? We have plenty of pulls from back at 300 miles showing 165 or less to the tire on my dyno - AND I have pulls showing 150s,168,170,172/173 on the stock tune before reset and on the base ECUTEK map (supposedly stock) with the IAM set at 0.7.

I could have posted any of that as the before for the tune - But instead we waited till the car was totally stable HP wise after break in and gave the best possible conditions for the before pull. (Warm oil, cold coolant, fresh reset)

Look - my second run versus my most recent run (both in SAE) we made like 30 HP Yo!!!!!
http://www.ddperformanceresearch.com..._and_after.jpg

Seriously - that *IS* my car's second pull ever in SAE vs the most recent in SAE. Both runs are stock and the only difference is the tune and a few (10,000) miles. But while it would make a cool marketing tool, its not REALLY representative is it?


This however - is totally apples to apples WITH a 1.0 IAM on the before pull to boot (despite the claims that stock is actually a 0.7 IAM). The car wasn't even removed from the dyno between the 2 pulls - it was strapped down exactly the same for days while Jason (Illusive) worked on the tune.
http://www.ddperformanceresearch.com...tek%20tune.jpg


Compare that to some people (not the ones in this thread - I really don't know anything about them) who install a bunch of parts and THEN do an ECU reset for the "after" dyno.... (we have been able to make 5-6 HP repeatedly simply from just the ECU reset BTW - and we have posted that result too)


So... yeah - that was all over the place. But - the car made what it made dude.

And if you think my dyno reads high - check this FJ cruiser dyno out: :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayYA...e_gdata_player


http://www.ddperformanceresearch.com.../FJ%20dyno.jpg

Boosted2.0 01-16-2013 12:34 AM

In retrospect - I should have just said "Don't drag me into this" - would have been a much shorter post :D

2forme 01-16-2013 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted2.0 (Post 668136)
In retrospect - I should have just said "Don't drag me into this" - would have been a much shorter post :D

The quotes weren't meant in a bad way, but with everyone questioning dyno's locations/calibrations/whatever... I figured I'd be politically correct. I got called a troll for taking another dyno at face value in a vortech thread. Nothing against you, Boosted.

Boosted2.0 01-16-2013 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 668573)
The quotes weren't meant in a bad way, but with everyone questioning dyno's locations/calibrations/whatever... I figured I'd be politically correct. I got called a troll for taking another dyno at face value in a vortech thread. Nothing against you, Boosted.

I totally understand - Its all good.


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