Modellista 86, TRD Griffon and Tom's N086V Debut at TAS 2013
 

Really like the trd one but the double wing is kinda silly. any clue what wheels those are?

Not a big fan of any of them. I think you'll find less is more with these cars.

All are interesting takes. I guess if they really wanted to separate themselves from the crowd then they succeeded.

I was trying hard but it looks like TOM's didn't need the change out the transmission to drop that motor in. That would be a very tempting swap after the warranty is up!

Not sure what you mean, performance or looks? The Griffon looks similar to stock and did an extremely fast lap at Tsukuba with basically stock power. You can't get anymore simpler then that.

For those unimpressed with the TRD Griffon concept check out the list of lap times for Tsukuba circuit.
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/tsukuba.html

Less is more indeed. Lots of potential for this chassis.

are telling me that the 200hp TRD-G was only beaten by the top 4 ranking cars record? WOW...just wow

1. Radical SR4 1.2 1:00.29 197hp / 1168lbs
2. Nissan GT-R 1:00.73 550hp / 3827lbs
3. Nissan Nismo R34 Z-Tune 1:01.15 500hp/ 3527lbs
4. Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 1:01.60 530hp/3351lbs
5. TRD Griffon GT86 1.01.87 200hp / 2000-2400lbs

What engine is the TOMs using?

wow!

According the TRD Griffon website it's approximately 1 tonne in MINIMUM weight if I understood correctly; so around 22xx lbs.

In any case it's a purpose built car for that track which isn't particularly great for high HP cars which are generally heavier to begin with. Is it an accomplishment? Yes. Is it as awesome as it looks? No. At least not IMO.

Griffon Concept is running Volk Racing TE37 Super Lap
Tom's Concept is running Tom Igeta wheel which is a throwback to the old Tom's Igata

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...44052000_o.jpg

Those times are for production cars on street tires. The Griffon Concept if running Advan Racing slicks. Still very impressive times and truly exciting to see them further develop this car! For reference, here is an article on the recent lap record holder at Tsukuba 52.6 Seconds on STREET tires!

http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/12/...ki-52-sec-lap/

In contrast to the other two, the TOM’s concept replaces the stock 2.0-liter powerplant with a 2GR-FSE 3.5-liter V6 that’s been used, among others, by the Lexus IS and GS 350, tuned to deliver almost double the production car’s output, at 395hp (400PS) and 450 Nm (332 lb-ft) of torque.

By the gods, that modelista made me throw up a bit in my mouth. The red accented interior pieces made it go full retard, never go full retard.

TOM'S front bumper looks acceptable

Interesting armrest on the modelista

The sound of the TRD exhaust...

Modelista looks nice, minus the hideous red interior.

Tom's looks nice as well, would like to see its performance vs stock power but keeping all other performance mods the same.

Nice to see TRD still developing the 86 as well :clap:

^2279.57lbs

Looks not performance. I'm all for more go fast goodies that actually deliver increased performance.

Vehicle specs

Base vehicle
Toyota 86 (Model: ZN6)
Engine Model
FA20 (naturally aspirated 2.0-liter horizontally-opposed engine)
[List of Major Specifications]

Length
4,334 mm
Width
1,800 mm
1,235 mm Height
Vehicle weight over 1,034 kg
Maximum output over <net> 147kW (200PS) / 7,000 rpm
Maximum torque <net> 205N · m or more (20.9kgf · m) / 6,400 ~ 6,700 rpm

Main attached list of items

Exterior




Front bumper and canards manufactured CFRP (original design)
Hood made of CFRP
Wide front fenders CFRP (original design)
Doors made of CFRP
Side mirror for racing
Roof made of CFRP (original design)
Trunk hood made of CFRP
Rear bumper made of CFRP (original design)
Rear diffuser made of CFRP (original design)
Rear wing made of CFRP (original design)
Aero front fender made fin CFRP (commercially available)
Side skirt set (commercially available)
Rear trunk spoiler (commercially available)
Triangle window polycarbonate
Polycarbonate side windows
Quarter polycarbonate window
Polycarbonate rear window
Blinker bulb (Rear)
TRD bucket seat interior (commercially available)
TRD Shift Knob (commercially available)
(Commercially available) TRD oil temperature gauge
(Commercially available) TRD oil pressure gauge
(Commercially available) water temperature gauge TRD
Function body reinforcement parts (and original brace welding MIG)
Stainless steel exhaust manifold (catalyzer less)
Titanium exhaust pipe (center and tail)
Strengthened clutch cover (commercially available)
Metal clutch disc (commercially available)
Mechanical L.S.D TRD (commercially available)
Diff carrier bush mount reinforcement (commercially available)
4.8 final gear
Engine Oil Cooler Kit (Revised 86 Racing)
Height Adjustable suspension set (made by KW)
TRD stabilizer set (commercially available)
Pillow ball upper mount
Front lower arm bush and strengthening (Bush is commercially available)
Front lower arm bush into Pirro
Reinforced rear suspension member
Rear upper arm bush strengthening (commercially available)
Lateral Link and strengthening Bush (Bush is commercially available)
Trailing link and strengthen Bush (Bush is commercially available)
Re bush front suspension member mounted into Dji~tsu de
TRD Monoblock Brake Kit & Original Pad (commercially available)
RAYS TE37SL 18inch 9.5J +45
ADVAN Racing Slick 250/640R18

The looks of the Griffon parts are the go fast goodies :thumbsup:

The TOM's bumper looks a little Dodge Dart to me.

Daaayyyuummmm....

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...4&d=1357939714

The TOMs version has similar tails to the STi concept BRZ. I LIKE!

Edit: And STi like lip spoiler?

Ditto.

I gotta have the Modellista wheels

Really really really digging the TOM's taillights.

I'm with you guys. SO excited about those tail lights. I mean just look at them! LEGIT. First post btw. Hi Everybody! haha

http://designryan.com/toms-gt86-tail-lights.jpg

I'm geekin over the TRD shit. I think that's the cleanest of them all. I guess because I'm partial to simplistic designing. Lol replacing the piston garnish with some carbon fiber wingage garnish is silly but hilariously awesome at the same time.... Err' bit of downward air force counts!

Soooooooooo TOMs just did a direct swap with a V6? Transmission bolted straight up? Interesting, just interesting...

i think its pretty awesome, and im pretty damn impressed. Also considering some of the average time attack race build records set was in the 55:00-1:05 range. 52:649 being the fastest record set on a 800hp/2100lbs S15. All of them boasting similar weight and more power than the GT86 Griffon. Like the Supernow FC managed 57sec using 500hp/2300lbs on a full track build for Tsukuba.

Im just saying even with 2200lbs-2300lbs the GT86 is still using stock engine stock ECU, with nearly nothing touched other than headers and exhaust. Im VERY impressed seeing as how the record Open N/A is held by ASM s2000 300hp/2127lbs @ 59.9 I.. I truly believe that the GT86 or BRZ could be the next record holder for the Tsukuba N/A in the very near future.

I'm confused. What is this list? Top 4 ranking cars record of what class, cause there are cars in the 50sec lap times at Tsukuba.


**edit, nvrmd, someone posted on it.

I understand that, and from what i understand the Griffon will be available for purchase in the future (at least all the featured parts). Wouldn't that making it technically production vehicle like Nismo 400R or R34 Ztune, since its only replacement parts and no altercations to the chassis?

If anything, i think slicks could have been too much grip for 9.5 wide wheel on stock power.

WHERE can I get those TRD gauges :eyebulge:

these ones?
http://trdparts.jp/86_performanceline/image/86meter.jpg

Yes, they are exactly like the Defi's except TRD branded which makes it uber sexy. I was just searching and everything I'm coming across says they are discontinued. :(

Think I found them. I don't see a Boost gauge in the kit list though.

yup, no cares about anything but these tails http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...9&d=1357939569

no way that trd is stock motor, it certainly sounds like it revs much higher than 7k. start gutting everything out people!

I'm also phenomenally impressed and really surprised that others are unimpressed. Yes the car is on race slicks, but you don't match or even beat full blown time attack cars on a stock motor and similar weight by just adding race slicks. That just doesn't happen. Well not unless you're trd apparently. Btw that asm car actually made 350ps at the crank and had to be warmed up for 20 minutes every time you started the motor right? The trd griffon is a beast!

The good thing to come out of all this is that although we can all see aftermarket parts we don't like there is such a huge range available that we could all (given suitable funds) create our perfect 86. I don't think I know of any other car that has had such a huge range of replacement/upgrade parts available.

As for those putting down the TRD 86's lap time, saying that the tight, twisty track suits the 86 better than the Ferrari, etc. what do they really want this car to excel at; red light drag racing? Motorway top speeds? Because, for me anyway, there's no better legal, street driving experience than pushing a car hard and fast along one of those 'perfect driving roads'.