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Hachiroku 12-02-2011 04:27 PM

Road & Track Test Drive Review of 2013 Subaru BRZ
 
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2013 Subaru BRZ - First Drive


By John Lamm / Photos by the Author

December 2, 2011

Kuzu City, Tochigi, Japan—It’s rare we get to test a new sports car aimed directly at those who want a sports car but don’t have Porsche money in the bank.

This one is, of course, the long-anticipated Subaru BRZ, as in Boxer, Rear-wheel drive Zenith (as in peak, not the television set). Jointly developed with Toyota (and to also be sold as the Scion FR-S in the U.S.), the BRZ was mostly engineered by Subaru and mostly styled by Toyota, with companies tweaking the other’s efforts to personalize the machine somewhat.


Getting right to the driving—look out, Miata. With the exception of the brief, unfulfilled “Solstice interlude,” Mazda has owned the small sports car market and with good reason. Great car, the Miata, and Mazda has never taken its eye off the ball when it comes to keeping it pure and honest.

Strong Off the Line

Mazda finally has real competition. From the start, the 2.0-liter flat-4 pulls smoothly, and is flexible enough to drive off at 1500 rpm in 6th gear. It’s more fun, of course, to be down a few notches in the smooth, lightweight 6-speed manual transmission. The engine pulls strongly from 3000 rpm to the 150 lb.-ft. peak at 6600 rpm. Redline is 7400. Subaru says the BRZ hits 60 mph in less than 7 seconds with the manual gearbox. Along the way, you’ll find the exhaust to be as exuberant as the engine.


Considering cars of this ilk, I think of a road that connects Highway 1 with 101 in Northern California, a twisting, climbing-then-falling two-laner among the redwoods. What you want there is a machine that not only handles with ease, but also has the sort of torque character that means you aren’t shifting every other corner. In 2nd gear? No problem, stick with it. In 3rd? That’s okay too. Instead, enjoy the drive, the even turn-in—there’s just a bit of confidence-inspiring understeer—and the good balance even when the road might dip into a rut in the apex.

The ride is a proper match to the handling, isolated for both quality and sound, and yet not separating you from the driving experience. On a straight highway where exhaust sound and handling aren’t important, shift up to 6th and the exhaust falls away for a reasonably calm highway ride. Keep going and we’re told you could top out at more than 135 mph. Overall, it’s a good dual-character machine that’s fun on the weekends but won’t beat you up during the week. Early mileage estimates peg the BRZ at 30 mpg on the highway.


Do It Automatically

At risk of sounding heretical here, you can have just as much fun with the automatic. Paddle shifters are standard, and when you shift the mode from D to M for manual, the mapping tightens up. Nice rev-popping to match downshifts and, again, the torque minimizes the amount of shifting you’ll be doing.

The Miata does get points for being a roadster, where the BRZ is only a coupe. We’d put money down that at some point there will be a soft top BRZ, but don’t hold your breath.


Besides, it’s a very handsome coupe. The Subaru and Scion are basically the same design, and hint at a sort of 7/8th-scale modern rendition of the original Datsun 240Z...and we mean that as a compliment. The Subaru and Scion share the same taillights, but the Subie gets HID headlamps. Unfortunately, both designs have the non-functional grille at the tops of the front fenders. The roof is a “double bubble,” not in the classic Zagato sense, but “flat bubbles,” taller on the sides for added headroom and stiffness.

The roofline’s side curve peaks right about where the driver gets in, so entry and exit for anyone around six feet is easy. You’ll snuggle right into the well-bolstered seats, which should be as comfortable for long runs as for tight corners. Outward visibility—with a minor exception in rear view--is quite good for a car of this size.


Inside Line

In this day of hard interior plastic/low-cost interiors, Subaru has done a reasonable job of making certain everything you touch has a comfortable feel to it. There’s leather on the shift knob, emergency brake handle and steering wheel, the last adjustable for rake and reach.

Three gauges are straight ahead, the center a tach with a digital speedo, the analog speedometer to the left, fuel and temp on the right. HVAC controls are in the center stack, configured with knobs and levers that are large enough that you can easily operate them, even with gloves. No mysteries, no fiddling around.

There are two possible negatives inside. Subaru may call this a 2+2, but that’s being optimistic. It’s more like a 2+ kids. Subaru points out, howevever, that with the folding rear seatback you can fit a pair of golf bags or four racing tires, helmet and tools in back.

The other area of concern is the radio/navigational system. Kudos to Subaru for making navi standard at this price, but the system is clumsy and requires a lot of time with eyes off the road.


Tech Basics

We’ve already written about the technical basics of the BRZ. The 200-bhp, 2.0-liter, fuel-injected flat-4 that sits well back and low in the chassis, all the better to lower the center of gravity and reduce the polar moment of inertia. You can have either a 6-speed manual or the aforementioned 6-speed automatic gearbox, and a Torsen limited-slip differential is standard as are 17-in. wheels and tires. Front suspension is MacPherson struts; the rear is a double-wishbone layout with Impreza roots. Steering has electric assist with a ratio of 13.1:1 through a 14.4-in. steering wheel.

Price? Nothing final, but we believe the $25,000 sports car ball has just been lobbed into the Miata’s court.


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Giccin 12-02-2011 04:33 PM

I like the sound of 24k better than 25k. 25k if final prices included... :x

jdmEGO 12-02-2011 04:42 PM

nice!! thank you so much for this!!

ahausheer 12-02-2011 04:42 PM

What are those slits in the rear seats where the top of your butt/lower back would be?

Giccin 12-02-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 88413)
What are those slits in the rear seats where the top of your butt/lower back would be?

The crest that allows the seats to fold down I believe.

iggyhop9 12-02-2011 04:53 PM

Where are they getting their TQ numbers from? 170? This must've been before the official press release

Longhorn248 12-02-2011 04:56 PM

:happyanim::happyanim::happyanim::happyanim:

I don't want to wait until May!!! :burnrubber:

torquemada 12-02-2011 04:56 PM

there is an error: the tire size

Slide 12-02-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 88413)
What are those slits in the rear seats where the top of your butt/lower back would be?

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 88416)
The crest that allows the seats to fold down I believe.

They are isofix points

blur 12-02-2011 05:11 PM

nav standard eh?

Jah1mon 12-02-2011 05:11 PM

I wonder if it will be possible to get the BRZ without Nav? Nav would be just a waste of space for me.

KevinDuMa 12-02-2011 05:19 PM

I want white...but man that blue is growing on me, car is dead sexy. Overall I'm very impressed, can't wait to drive this thing.

Zaku 12-02-2011 05:20 PM

Such a lovely review , this car is so amazing looking in this color and its very positive to see many reviews saying its 25k. he bit about the nav scares me alittle

RRnold 12-02-2011 05:22 PM

I love that blue!! BRZ by all means!


That's what I'm talking about!! :happy0180:
"The roofline’s side curve peaks right about where the driver gets in, so entry and exit for anyone around six feet is easy. You’ll snuggle right into the well-bolstered seats, which should be as comfortable for long runs as for tight corners. Outward visibility—with a minor exception in rear view--is quite good for a car of this size. "

pkptd447 12-02-2011 05:43 PM

the 360 panorama at R&T's site is pretty sweet

KevinDuMa 12-02-2011 05:45 PM

Question for you fellas...who's gonna gun it right off the lot when they get on the highway and who's gonna break it in first? lol

pkptd447 12-02-2011 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinDuMa (Post 88522)
Question for you fellas...who's gonna gun it right off the lot when they get on the highway and who's gonna break it in first? lol

dont remember where i saw this but its a decent read with some valuable info.http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

as for myself, im gunning it on the way home like i do regardless of what i drive :party0030:

edit: this probably wouldnt hurt either
http://members.rennlist.com/oil/Motor%20Oil%20101.htm

Ikaros 12-02-2011 06:09 PM

"At risk of sounding heretical here, you can have just as much fun with the automatic."

=D finally a review that doesn't make the auto sound boring, plus it paints anpretty good picture on what it can do.

Deslock 12-02-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Road and Track
non-functional grille at the tops of the front fenders

That's a shame.

Speedjunkie 12-02-2011 06:20 PM

At least Subie didnt cheap out on the HVAC! I might have to get a subie now.....

goldenfri 12-02-2011 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 88413)
What are those slits in the rear seats where the top of your butt/lower back would be?

LATCH system for baby seats.

Velvet_Kevorkian 12-02-2011 06:30 PM

This car is more and more appealing which each and every day. 3-4000/year means that the MY13 coupes will likely sell quick!

Sport-Tech 12-02-2011 06:48 PM

Not going to be such a great deal for Canadians though, as Subie's outrageous markups here (and Scion's modest ones) mean this baby will be about $5k-8k more in Canada than the FR-S.

Snoopyalien24 12-02-2011 07:06 PM

yay they kept the switches on the center console, and the BRZ is growing on me some more

tripjammer 12-02-2011 07:09 PM

Interior is GREAT! Price is good. They say the NAV is hard to use. I wonder if it has bluetooth? :iono: Hopefully bluetooth 4.0.:thumbup:

Sparkplug 12-02-2011 07:30 PM

My BRZ is going to have to be blue. :wub:

Phontsolo 12-02-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedjunkie (Post 88603)
At least Subie didnt cheap out on the HVAC! I might have to get a subie now.....

No doubt!

Phontsolo 12-02-2011 07:44 PM

Glad to see that for the most part Subara kept the US version almost identical to the Japanese version. Inside and out. You've made my decision very, very easy.

Now it's on to the color choice.... Subaru Blue, White or Grey.

dazz1320 12-03-2011 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ahausheer (Post 88413)
What are those slits in the rear seats where the top of your butt/lower back would be?

That's where you hook up child safety seats.

random 12-03-2011 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Phontsolo (Post 88729)
Glad to see that for the most part Subara kept the US version almost identical to the Japanese version. Inside and out. You've made my decision very, very easy.

Now it's on to the color choice.... Subaru Blue, White or Grey.

For Subarus with sporting intentions, there's only one proper color: WR Blue Mica. :)

tranzformer 12-03-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pkptd447 (Post 88542)
dont remember where i saw this but its a decent read with some valuable info.http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

as for myself, im gunning it on the way home like i do regardless of what i drive :party0030:

edit: this probably wouldnt hurt either
http://members.rennlist.com/oil/Motor%20Oil%20101.htm

Isnt the engine tested and somewhat broken in at factory?

m_life 12-04-2011 11:13 AM

To quote 'BRZ was mostly engineered by Subaru and mostly styled by Toyota'.

Where do these guys get the information from exactly? They couldn't be much further from the truth if they tried.

If you notice all these tests have the same tune. It's Subaru PR with no say from Toyota but journos have to go with what they are told.

Funnily enough it's only been perpetuated by the American media... and a Subaru's American PR insistence.

tranzformer 12-04-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by m_life (Post 90181)
To quote 'BRZ was mostly engineered by Subaru and mostly styled by Toyota'.

Where do these guys get the information from exactly? They couldn't be much further from the truth if they tried.

If you notice all these tests have the same tune. It's Subaru PR with no say from Toyota but journos have to go with what they are told.

Funnily enough it's only been perpetuated by the American media... and a Subaru's American PR insistence.

So you are a Toyota fanboy right? Let's get that out of the way first. We have had this discussion many times on here. You can take it for what it is worth.

All of the test mules, prototypes and even the production version are built off a Subaru platform.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...6&d=1322867795

The engine is a Subaru engine with some help from Toyota with D4S

Suspension is Subaru Impreza parts

Car is being built at Subaru Gunma plant

Why is it such a hard thing to grasp that Subaru did most of the engineering (obviously with some assistance from Toyota) and that Toyota did the styling (obviously with some assistance from Subaru)? It is a joint production car, but some team has to take the lead on production. Not that big of a deal that it was Subaru. The car is still great and both companies were involved.

m_life 12-04-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 90208)
So you are a Toyota fanboy right? Let's get that out of the way first.

Not really no I just dont see why Subaru PR should try and take the credit away from Toyota.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 90208)
All of the test mules, prototypes and even the production version are built off a Subaru platform.

I didn't really know that in my defence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 90208)
The engine is a Subaru engine with some help from Toyota with D4S

And the work put in from Yamaha to significantly improve the head.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 90208)
Suspension is Subaru Impreza parts

As far as I was aware the suspension was unique to the car. If you have actual information/tech papers about this please do share.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 90208)
Car is being built at Subaru Gunma plant

To be fair that doesn't really mean much as few manufactures do this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 90208)
Why is it such a hard thing to grasp that Subaru did most of the engineering (obviously with some assistance from Toyota) and that Toyota did the styling (obviously with some assistance from Subaru)? It is a joint production car, but some team has to take the lead on production. Not that big of a deal that it was Subaru. The car is still great and both companies were involved.

As I said originally I just think its silly that PR's can try and take the glory away from there partner company that made it possible to bring a new car to there range anyway.

Just because I have an opinion doesn't make me a fan boy.

Spaceywilly 12-04-2011 07:55 PM

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As I said originally I just think its silly that PR's can try and take the glory away from there partner company that made it possible to bring a new car to there range anyway.

Just because I have an opinion doesn't make me a fan boy.
Having an opinion doesn't make you a fanboy

Quote:

To quote 'BRZ was mostly engineered by Subaru and mostly styled by Toyota'.

Where do these guys get the information from exactly? They couldn't be much further from the truth if they tried.
Making statements as though you are an expert when you know nothing about the subject is what makes you a fanboy. Subaru engineered and builds the car, Toyota was responsible for the styling. That's what each company has said from the beginning. When you get a Toyota 86 or Scion FRS open the hood and take a look for yourself.

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagam...w/IMG_0373.jpg

Dave-ROR 12-04-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by m_life (Post 90553)
Not really no I just dont see why Subaru PR should try and take the credit away from Toyota.

They haven't really. They did engineer the car. That's a fact, it's not "taking" credit from anyone else.

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And the work put in from Yamaha to significantly improve the head.
This is a rumor that has not been confirmed through any production related press release or official production statement. Yamaha hasn't mentioned it, Toyota didn't mention it in the reveals, and neither did Subaru.

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As far as I was aware the suspension was unique to the car. If you have actual information/tech papers about this please do share.
It was stated that the suspension is based off an impreza. In pics, it looks basically exactly like an impreza in the rear and only slightly different up front. The point of the car was to be affordable, which means parts bin.

Quote:

As I said originally I just think its silly that PR's can try and take the glory away from there partner company that made it possible to bring a new car to there range anyway.
Again, they haven't. Neither has really. If anything it was Toyota that tried to take more of the credit for the car's engineering than was deserved, not the other way around.

coyote 12-04-2011 08:13 PM

Subaru haven't actually done much talking on this issue. They were asked who did the engineering and they answered the question, giving credit to Toyota for doing the styling.

It seems important to Toyota fanbois that Toyota somehow get credit for the engineering, which is why Toyota have done so much talking on the issue.

Toyota seem very insecure about the idea that their new car was engineered by and is built by Subaru, as do their fanbois.

Mine will have the badge of whichever company offers the better deal.

nrclptcnsmniak 12-04-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_life (Post 90553)
Not really no I just dont see why Subaru PR should try and take the credit away from Toyota.

Nobody is taking credit away from anybody! Its a fact, its the truth!

tranzformer 12-05-2011 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_life (Post 90553)
Not really no I just dont see why Subaru PR should try and take the credit away from Toyota.



I didn't really know that in my defence.



And the work put in from Yamaha to significantly improve the head.



As far as I was aware the suspension was unique to the car. If you have actual information/tech papers about this please do share.



To be fair that doesn't really mean much as few manufactures do this.



As I said originally I just think its silly that PR's can try and take the glory away from there partner company that made it possible to bring a new car to there range anyway.

Just because I have an opinion doesn't make me a fan boy.

Btw it isnt just America publications. Read this: http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...subaru_brz.htm

should answer all of your questions in regards to Subaru's involvement and engineering. This is a Subaru engineered car, just like their clear plexiglass show car pointed out. Toyota showed off their design with the different body's and Subaru showed of their engineering.


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