Induction Poll - NA, Supercharger, or Turbo
 

Considering the rumors of factory supercharging what would you rather have from Toyota?

"I'm taking a poll."
"What?"
"I'll take your pole..."

definitely super

jeeezuz... can we just let the articles/rumors speak for themselves.. this subject has been hacked to pieces its lost all meaning

I need NOS.

Before I pull it out of the lot I'll install a Borg Warner 88mm JB turbo.

THEN I'LL MAKE 94830302 BHP!!! :bonk:

I need jet engines. super sonic

I voted for turbo because I see this car not only as a fun to drive sports car, but also a time attack/autocross competitor. In order to lay down competitive lap times its going to have to have a turbocharger. I will be disappointed if fully modified versions don't lap Tsukuba in the 58 second range...

Uhhh... :dnftt: ?

or

:suicide:

2JZ-GE engine swap with twin turbos. Better yet the 1GZ V12 from the Toyota Century. Because power is the only thing that counts.

For autox, I think NA would be best.

For time attack, it would really need to be AWD to pull the big numbers in street form. There is simply a limit to the amount of power you can transmit to the pavement with only 2 wheels.

edit: I feeeded it :(

FFS....

maybe yall should just wait til the turbo/supercharged version come out? lol (which is never)

Maybe Nissan is observing the progress of GT86/BRZ and will finally signal a GO to get back in cheap RWD sports car segment to compete.

Uh, I'm not trolling, I'm serious. Have you seen the Tsukuba time attack records? Some of the fastest cars are FD RX7's... so that's nonsense that it needs to be AWD. Granted, it can still be fast in NA form if the engine is fully built and weight is dramatically reduced, a la some of the S2000's or Civics.

Nah, they make the Miata superchargers. ;)

http://i.imgur.com/90jwZ.jpg

maybe i should make a counter-poll
Arc Reactor vs Flux Capacitor vs Mr. Fusion vs Solar Furnace

So far, you have conversed with me entirely in pictures. And I'm the troll? Do you even know what "trolling" means?

Its all about balance and lightness..the FRS doesn't need high HP or AWD to make very fast times. It just needs to play to its strengths. Make Full use of that super low COG and a 2000-2500lbs dry chassis.

Now if your talking about breaking time barriers in the 2wd catagory, like in Tskuba. RX7 is a competitive beast. The SuperNow 600hp FC3S did Tskuba recently in 54 sec.

2GR

Ill supercharge my turbocharger's supercharger

Supercharger definitely.

Aki totally should do an LS9 swap.

I voted NA because it is still my favorite. In the case of the GT86/BRZ, one wanting more power will need more displacement, what is limited by the engine block, or just another bigger engine, what may not go into the engine bay. Now on the stock engine I would prefere a supercharger if I will want more power. I would also go for a turbo engine if it is done by Subaru STI. I wouldn't go aftermarket turbo charger as it would be a simple setup and have turbolag. It won't be any twin-scroll turbocharger.

N/A = Pure
Turbo = Laggy dyno queen disconnected throttle response
Supercharger = enhanced N/A with emotional and acoustic corruption

For me, N/A is ideal. I'm all for a good TVS or twin-screw if N/A doesn't get the job done. Turbo's are for Diesels, rally cars, or dyno queens, but don't belong in a simple/pure sports car like the FT-86.

If none of that works, an Arc Reactor sounds like hella fun.

you forgot drifters ryephile in your turbo analogy

Only because they're too prideful to toss an LSx in everything like they should.

LOL! LSx engines are fantastic [and a benchmark example of what makes N/A so great, mind you]. I not-so-secretly want a Corvette solely for its engine.

LSx in a FD3S is tits.. i couldn't believe the LSx engine weighed the same as my 13b rotary.

Well said. :thumbsup:

With the type of handling this car seems designed to deliver, the power delivery of a turbo is completely unduited to its character. Turbo's coming on boost DO upset the balance of the vehicle, and with a light rwd platform, having the turbo spool and boost mid-corner WOULD make MOST OF YOU loose control and Crash at some point, you will be over estimating your driving skill!

A Supercharger though, would allow more power/speed and retain the progressive power dilivery.

And to everyone who is going to go on about variable geometry or twin scroll...... These are still not as linear as Superchargers, and DO upset the balance as they spool.

For all the NA fans that would like to keep the FA20 and improve it, it would be nice to get in contact with some of the companies that work on NA engine tuning. To improve power, it is not only about displacement. There are many other factors that could improve the engines power up to 45 PS keeping the same displacement: camshafts, forged pistons, lightweight flywheel, intake, exhaust,....

I would love a special edtion: Cosworth BRZ STI CS260

NA for me. Honestly after I drove a friends modded Lotus Elise and heard the engine roar I fell in love! Especially the response it gave back as soon as I stepped on the pedal. drooool. NA to me just has a better pedal feel and its so much cooler imo to have a nice NA engine that kicks butt.

Where are the engine bay photos? I'm curious to see where we're gonna stuff the turbo... and then the question is, what do we do about engine management.

Seriously? Really? This is your first post and still haven't found pics of the engine bay? lol. :bonk:

I'm not sure how much lighter I'd like to go if it's going to be a daily driver:

"The six-speed manual transmission has a high-effort, short-throw shifter and a light clutch, and it’s a bit easy to stall the BRZ off the line because its flywheel weighs only 20 lb, some 9 less than an STI’s."
For what it's worth, I voted NA too. I know it's been said many times on the forum, but I'd rather work on my driving skill and maybe add some handling mods before I do anything to increase power.

I want an LFA V10 swap.



















With a Supercharger.































And a flux capacitor.













Turbocharged.

















with KERS.

I'm used to a boosted car. Considering this car is replacing my built S14, I would've loved for it to have come boosted from the factory. But I'm happy it didn't cause then god knows what the price would start at for a base model.

That being said, I'd still love to see a turbocharged one but I'll wait to make assumptions until after I see some N/A builds. I find it funny how people say they can only get like 20-30hp on modding an N/A engine of this size when I see 4ag's from the old 86s making well over 200hp fully built(120ish stock)...Granted, they're extensive builds but it's nearly 100hp extra. I think 250 would be a sweet spot for the car with a bit of weight taken off the car.

the ony part that bothers me about this car is the lack of torque.
I would love 200lb/tq. usually that would require FI but I'll
see how this engine responds to basic mods like full exhaust
intake and a nice tune should give me something around 175 lb/tq
which would make me happier.

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Call me slow, but I'm saying NA. Less parts that can go wrong, and it'll be safe and hopefully reliable from the factory. I'm going to leave the turbocharging to my track car.. aka RB20 powered S13 hatch.