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Report: Supercharged Toyota 86 being developed by TRD!!

It seems that even the mainstream automotive press are in a frenzy over this car and trying to make a story out of anything:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/260343/

Personally I'm not that fussed about a more powerful version, but I know that there are people who would be.

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Hot Toyota GT 86 planned

Toyota is already hard at work evaluating a high performance version of the new Toyota GT 86 sporting coupe. Chief engineer Tetsuo Tada says that not only is a supercharged GT 86 envisaged, test cars have already been made and are being evaluated by Toyota Racing Developments, the Japanese giant’s in house tuning division.

Tada-san favours the supercharger approach because it is simpler to achieve than increasing engine size and doesn’t wreck throttle response as turbocharging might. Indeed Toyota says that turbocharging along with four-wheel drive and wide tyres are what make sports cars boring to drive.

Supercharging is also a key competence for TRD which has been offering this kind of forced induction as an aftermarket kit for Toyotas since 1998. He would not be drawn on what kind of power a supercharged GT 86 might develop but Toyota is known to consider the car’s chassis could easily handle an additional 50bhp to go with the 197bhp already generated by its Subaru 2-litre flat four motor, a view with which, having driven the car, we wholly concur. However he says the TRD is also looking at ways of modifying the suspension to cope with the extra power, raising the possibility of a still more substantial power hike.

TRD’s most popular supercharger conversion is applied to the American market Tacoma pick up, boosting its 4-litre V6 engine from 233bhp to 301bhp suggesting that a 280bhp GT 86 with, critically, a massive boost in the low down torque the car currently lacks would be easily achieved. Even in the unlikely event that all the modifications added 100kg to the weight of the car, its power to weight ratio would still at least equal that of the 326bhp Nissan 370Z, a car capable of hitting 62mph from rest in 5.3sec and recording a top speed of 155mph. The standard GT 86 needs around 6.8sec and does 143mph. It is not yet known whether, if approved, the supercharged GT 86 would be offered as an aftermarket pack or as a model in its own right.

Tada also confirmed that it was so important to his team that even the standard GT 86 drifted properly that special tests were incorporated into the car’s development programme specifically for this purpose, ‘the first time this has ever been done on any Toyota.’

Doubt Toyota would leak that kind of information as it would kill sales of the initial run.

It will not kill any sale. There are many purists in the world.
Edit: it was posted in Subie forum earlier.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2587

im surprised this thread isnt getting more action. sure, this could be yet more misinformation (of that there is plenty). but if true, its exactly what the MOAR POWER people have been looking for.

Lets hope they go boosted.

Smells like rubbish.

I like how the article assumes toyota thinks turbo awd wide tires are boring.lol

Long time (13m) lurker, first time poster, but hear me out.

This actually makes a lot of sense to me. I know a few years back Scion offered a TRD Supercharger option for the tC, even if it wasn't the most powerful and kind of expensive.

http://www.coolcartuning.com/scion-tc-trd-supercharger/

While this one doesn't pull all that much more than the stock tC engine, I would imagine TRD could build something similar for the FR-S/BRZ/86 and offer it as a factory/aftermarket option. If they have to do significant mods to the engine (what with that 12.5:1 ratio) then I could see it coming as a performance spec model.

That said, I'm not sure exactly how the supercharger would pop onto a boxer, especially one as tightly packed as the D4S in the 86. Maybe have it sit in the middle in front?

Hell. Fricken. Yes! (If true)

I actually will prefer a factory supercharger instead of a turbo.

If true, it will most likely be offered as an option from Scion here in the US. Either way, I am not THAT interested. I am sure that if they don't develop one, someone else will.

Sounds awesome. Moving very fast indeed..

It won't kill initial sales because you can always install TRD parts like a supercharger from the factory when they release it...

Happened with the Tacomas...

Any who could forget the Subaru Tribeca supercharger by Cobb Tuning...

http://image.motortrend.com/f/921713...percharger.jpg

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Originally Posted by wcbjr (Post 88006)

Like this?

http://www.tune86.com/sites/default/...84dcc0e370.jpg

I must admit I do not like that at all. For the BRZ yes but for the 86 no thanks. If there is to be a TRD supercharger kit I suspect, or rather I would like to think, it will be a centrifugal SC to keep the weight down and hopefully they would utilise a front mount IC over a top mounted one. I prefer the stealth look under the bonnet myself.

Still the thought of having a 300hp SC 86 is interesting to say the least.

I just hope the parts are interchangible with the BRZ.

hmm, this makes me want to save my pennies for another year so I can get the SC as soon as I get the car. Very tempting, I hope it pans out.

Pretty cool if true it would be nice to have the option of a whining FR-S. However I wonder how long it would take to make it here to the US.

i just hope it's not as shitty as the tC s/c unit. there are people on Scionlife on their 5th and 6th super chargers.

its going to be interesting to see how they manage this... its obvious not a lot of boost could be added when using 12.5:1 CR, of course with a good tune anything is possible, but its still high compression and detonation is always likely.... so probably lowering compression would be ideal, maybe they will introduce this as a totally different car.
GT86 S or something

If they do make a supercharger it will be an add on one this car is release. I doubt it's going to be crappy like the S/C for the tC. They have a rep to keep up with this car. TRD supercharger will keep the factory warranty for the ft86/gt86/fr-s. BRZ might get their own version of the supercharger.

This is awesome news. Anybody who says they will just offer one after market has clearly never owned a modified cars before. Staying in warranty=FTW.

I think the TRD charger will be worthwhile. Since the SCION TC release, TRD has become a market ploy unrespected smelly turd. This is their chance to save their performance division and the whole point of the car.

best part: it's oem approved, so no warranty issues. :D

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Originally Posted by subaruslow (Post 88127)

I think the TRD charger will be worthwhile. Since the SCION TC release, TRD has become a market ploy unrespected smelly turd. This is their chance to save their performance division and the whole point of the car.

X2

TRD can't mess this up or they will have a lot of people wishing toyota release the G sport version of the FT86.

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Originally Posted by R_E_L (Post 88054)

Pretty cool if true it would be nice to have the option of a whining FR-S. However I wonder how long it would take to make it here to the US.

That would complement all of the whiners who were complaining about the FR-S after the press release! :lol:

Isn't Autocar the National Enquirer of automobiles in the UK or was it a different group?

i know yall are super excited about the s/c but there are a lot of cases where s/c's failed and toyota didn't warranty them. i am not saying don't get your hopes up i am just saying be wary the tc s/c was a vortech unit and it was utter shit.

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Originally Posted by syldrin (Post 88157)

Toyota uses Eaton now, and I've heard nothing but good things about Eaton.

Wonder why they wouldn't just use Subaru's resources, mainly their turbo. But whatever's best, I'm sure they know.

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Originally Posted by ryude (Post 88158)

Toyota uses Eaton now, and I've heard nothing but good things about Eaton.

orly? this i did not know. they probably dropped vortech over the tC issue. this is good news man eaton is good shit.

This car just keeps getting better and better...

Since I'm currently having fun driving a car with 100hp, 200 seems like plenty to me.

YAAAY boost gets your laid...:happyanim: or so i'm told... But no BOV or spool up noise makes me :(

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Originally Posted by lunchbox (Post 88185)

YAAAY boost gets your laid...:happyanim: or so i'm told... But no BOV or spool up noise makes me :(

go look up kenne bell cobra on youtube picture an FRS making that whine storming up on you. (ignore the sound after the cobra passes you) that sound will also get you laid. plus there are atmospheric BPV's you can use.

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Originally Posted by syldrin (Post 88157)

Most likely because the owner did a pulley, intercooler or intake system upgrade with no catch can allowing carbon and filter oil junk it up. Or they can tell by the tires in the front are bald to the rear = abuse. So many variables.

You know how much it cost Toyota for an Eaton M45/M62 unit? ~$300.. It'd cost you $1200 to replace.

You know how much a vortech unit cost a dealer? $~1400. It'd cost you $2200-2500 to replace.

I'd pick Eaton for price but I'd rather have a Vortech for efficiency, simplicity and bigger power.

I have to see it to believe it.