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zuldajin 01-01-2013 04:59 PM

Nob/Orido's D1 machine profiled with specs (video)
 
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Video with brief specs of their 86 monsters.

sidenote: I'm guessing Orido's has the Spyder auto/Sonar taillights on his car? They look sick.

Giccin 01-03-2013 02:17 PM

Haha Orido. I love him. hahahaha

TylerLieberman 01-03-2013 03:07 PM

Love Taniguchis car. The fact it uses the stock powerplant makes it that much better

Jeff86 01-03-2013 05:25 PM

EXTREME! haha

SnapOv3st3r 01-03-2013 05:59 PM

The HKS S/C pushing some decent power there. I like.

STEVEOSTI 01-03-2013 06:38 PM

Very different power plants but I too like the fact they've made power while keeping the FA20. I'd like to know more about the internals of that motor. Is there anywhere that covers the HKS car build up in English?

TAP Auto Parts 01-03-2013 06:45 PM

420ps? I wish they would show actual figures and not the stock ones. That car has over 500hp...

ST185RC 01-03-2013 08:07 PM

Why they didn't use the 1LR-GUE I'll never know. If this was all for just shits and giggles anyways and the rest of us have a snow ball's chance in hell to come across a 1LR, why not go all-out exclusive? Beg toyota if they must, sell their first borns if it helps, I want this mini-LFA to happen like the mini GT-R did in the form of a Juke.

Throw all caution to the wind I say.

ill roller 01-03-2013 08:38 PM

It wouldn't make any sense to use the LFA motor because it's a drift car, meaning there's a good chance that they'll pop a few motors in the lifetime of the car due to it constantly sitting at limiter... Only makes sense that they'd use a motor that has parts and even entire replacement motors more readily available.

BadLuckZN6 01-03-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 642153)
Love Taniguchis car. The fact it uses the stock powerplant makes it that much better

this

Chase Bays 01-03-2013 09:14 PM

IS-F Engine, awesome.

FA20 Supercharged Nitrous, awesome.

They both make power and I like it.

GT86drifter 01-03-2013 09:19 PM

anyone noticed taniguchi's car has a throttle cable no drive by wire lag good shiet

st162celica 01-04-2013 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT86drifter (Post 642865)
anyone noticed taniguchi's car has a throttle cable no drive by wire lag good shiet

Yep. I want

Supermassive 01-04-2013 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT86drifter (Post 642865)
anyone noticed taniguchi's car has a throttle cable no drive by wire lag good shiet

Drive by wire "lag" as you put it, is programmed into the ECU, it's one more way to make a car behave more smoothly. The computer averages the inputs it receives as far as throttle position and then reacts accordingly as smooth as possible. It's 100% possible to make a drive by wire system that's just as good as the cable setups, it's just that so many people coming from older cars have this misplaced nostalgia.

Most race cars now a days utilize drive by wire due to it being another thing that can be tuned to maximize a cars overall performance. Also the lag you really feel from your car when you press on the pedal isn't entirely DBW's fault the stock flywheel and crank pulley account for most of that lag. It takes longer to spin that heavy ass flywheel which feels like lag. Ever since I replaced my clutch and flywheel with a lighter clutch/flywheel combo the car is night and day more responsive to throttle inputs.

To be honest I feel like the cable throttle provides a placebo effect for most people. It's really kind of interesting to me that with the amount of money thrown at these drift cars that a cable throttle would even be considered, I'm guessing it was driver decision more than race engineer decision in regards to that.

dori. 01-04-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST185RC (Post 642735)
Why they didn't use the 1LR-GUE I'll never know. If this was all for just shits and giggles anyways and the rest of us have a snow ball's chance in hell to come across a 1LR, why not go all-out exclusive? Beg toyota if they must, sell their first borns if it helps, I want this mini-LFA to happen like the mini GT-R did in the form of a Juke.

Throw all caution to the wind I say.

ask yourself: how many LFA's were made?

And that should answer your question as to why they didn't use that engine.

TAP Auto Parts 01-05-2013 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermassive (Post 643659)
Drive by wire "lag" as you put it, is programmed into the ECU, it's one more way to make a car behave more smoothly. The computer averages the inputs it receives as far as throttle position and then reacts accordingly as smooth as possible. It's 100% possible to make a drive by wire system that's just as good as the cable setups, it's just that so many people coming from older cars have this misplaced nostalgia.

Most race cars now a days utilize drive by wire due to it being another thing that can be tuned to maximize a cars overall performance. Also the lag you really feel from your car when you press on the pedal isn't entirely DBW's fault the stock flywheel and crank pulley account for most of that lag. It takes longer to spin that heavy ass flywheel which feels like lag. Ever since I replaced my clutch and flywheel with a lighter clutch/flywheel combo the car is night and day more responsive to throttle inputs.

To be honest I feel like the cable throttle provides a placebo effect for most people. It's really kind of interesting to me that with the amount of money thrown at these drift cars that a cable throttle would even be considered, I'm guessing it was driver decision more than race engineer decision in regards to that.


You will find the majority of drift cars are controlled by a cable. On a stock car I can pump the gas pedal 3 times 0-100-0-100-0-100 before there was any effect on the engine, no bueno when drifting relies heavily on throttle control.

Depending on the level of race car, yes you will see DBW. F1 cars utilize a throttle map which allows for the engineers to design outputs so the car responds the same way at one track as it does another. They want to make it easy on the driver, so they adjust the throttle map depending on track and engine package.

You probably will not see this on any pro drift car, the throttle map is your foot. I've worked on drift cars from all over the world. I can think of one or two that had DBW, and they were not top level cars and were using the stock DBW system / ECU with a modulator. Maybe its cost of the system?

Here is a good read on F1 throttle maps - http://www.f1technical.net/features/17899

xbladex0 01-05-2013 02:54 PM

I agree with u on the LF-A engine into the Gt-86, but then again think about it it was a V6 twin turbo into a regularly juke 1.6liter turbo engine bay. Now the LF-A has a V10 engine and i have no idea how that would even fit into a 86, not to mention Lexus classifies LF-A as a front mid engine car haha.

#87 01-05-2013 03:05 PM

My favorite part is that they are serious drift machines and look they don't have hella flush stretched 0.5" ground clearance.

Sick cars

vang 01-11-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbladex0 (Post 646209)
I agree with u on the LF-A engine into the Gt-86, but then again think about it it was a V6 twin turbo into a regularly juke 1.6liter turbo engine bay. Now the LF-A has a V10 engine and i have no idea how that would even fit into a 86, not to mention Lexus classifies LF-A as a front mid engine car haha.

You high on something, dawg? The LFA engine is more compact than a Lexus V8 and lighter than a V6. Also, the LFA being classified as front midship has nothing to do with the ability to use the engine in the 86.

The 1LR wasn't used likely due to cost and engine characteristics, i.e. low on torque especially in the low rpm range.

xbladex0 01-12-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vang (Post 659588)
You high on something, dawg? The LFA engine is more compact than a Lexus V8 and lighter than a V6. Also, the LFA being classified as front midship has nothing to do with the ability to use the engine in the 86.

The 1LR wasn't used likely due to cost and engine characteristics, i.e. low on torque especially in the low rpm range.

Ahh i had forgotten it more compact then a V8, but i remember that it was lighter than a V6 engine, but wasn't too sure on the size.

aehachiroku 01-16-2013 08:54 PM

V8s in these with a rocket bunny widebody... drool.

Orido's car looks great too
I've always been a fan of his style. The Supra, the Aristo, and now the 86


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