[Noob Question]Will you be able to swap BRZ and 86 headlights?
 

[Noob Question]
The BRZ has a better LED/DRL light in the head lights...
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1322634734
I know the BRZ has the indcators in the head lights as well does this change the shape and length of them?
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Working BRZ lights.
http://86-club.com/images/BRZlight.gif

*I am aware no one has the car so we can't officially tell...

Doesn't look like a direct swap to me. Just look closely at the shape of the headlights. I'm sure one of our Photoshop gurus could overlay them to prove it.

i dunno honestly...IMO i think not without modification to front bumper and fender.

I must be retarded then because they look identical. The angle is slightly off but I'm sure they are swappable.

Can't you just switch the lights that's inside? Like not the whole thing just the LED bands?

Don't think its directly swappable even if they are the same shape. The BRZ's turn signal in in the headlight assembly and the 86 is not.

Easy as pie (for an electrician like me) besides, I'm sure its just a plug and a wire, easily pulled (if theres enough clearance to reach your hand up from under the bumber and move the plug and wires up to attach to the headlight compartment, I doubt they'll use completely different harness plugs just for the turn signals so people can't swap headlights, to me they look the same shape, i'll try a little p-shopping/flip image and overlay to see when I get home...

That is all I am thinking the indicator is the easiest part if they fit... I can wire from the current indicator to the one in the light... might even have both of them working :P (if they fit.)

would be cool if we could swap in the subie lights and leave a little air gap where it doesnt fill kinda Toyota Tacoma like ish

they look like the same shape to me but mounting points might be different because of the different bumpers.

I'm happy to redrill holes :P

I wonder if we could trade front ends out with friends....have a fr-s with the brz front...that'd be cool...

or vise-versa

Maybe its just my eyes. The smaller part of the lights seem to have a bit different shape.

Look at the Subie bumper, There is a fill-up. I think the BRZ headlight is a bit shorter. If you want to swap headlight, you need to fill up that gap.
Edit: I think headlights the same length. There is only one way to swap, is to modify the bumper, which would be a lot of work for most people here.

dont want Subaru's front bumber looks gay with that big black bit :s

happy to fill in gaps from the back with no more gaps :P

86 lights won't fit on a BRZ unless you cut the inside corner. BRZ lights will fit on the 86 but you will need to fill the inside corner.

might be. if you look at the photos the angles at which they were taken were slightly different, that could be the reason for the confusion.

i think they are swapable, idk how the turn signals would work tho, cuz the brz has them in the headlight, and the frs by the foglight

i remember reading an article somewhere that they are physically identical.. but i'm not sure if they were stating that out of fact or pure speculation.

yes moto-p posted that they are the same. Cant find post either.

Found the info.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...al+lens%2Flamp

I don't know I kinda like the 86 hid headlights, if scion does not offer them as an option then I will go with the BRZ hid lights. They can't be that expensive...it's not like it would be wrong to do it since both cars are like the same.

I wouldn't bet on that. I had a '05 G35 6MT and it had HID lights, but they were reflector types and not projector. So I bought the entire headlight assembly from the '06 model (a lot of ppl did this btw) which are HID projector types, along with the D2R bulbs and did the swap. Thankfully, there were a lot of great DIY instructions from the forums so I did it myself. It still cost me about $800 to $900 after it was all done. The headlight assemblys themselves cost around $750. I dunno what the FRS/BRZ ones will cost, but I doubt they will be cheap.

Oh, and the '05 and '06 models were identicle except the lights so it was a simple plug and play swap.

It looks the lights are the same, but the BRZ bumper has a "pocket" for the inside corner of the light.

I got a quote for wrx hids and they wanted over 2k + postage....

So get saving.

Yeah, figured they'd be pretty steep. The ones for the G35 were $750 and I got those in a group buy from a dealer for a great price. They were just the plastic housing/assemblies! Car parts just cost an arm and a leg.

Thought about the swap also as i much prefer the BRZ's hid but seems like the inside corner of the housing's are different.

The head lights are exaclty the same. They are interchangeable.

Get BRZ with all the goodies and swap the front bumper. It's cheaper that way.

This does seem to make the most sense for those interested in the FRS front look with BRZ lights, just keep in mind you will need to pick a color shared between both companies. (I assume it is official, or close to official, that many of the primary colors, silver, black, white, grey, red..will be the exact same between BRZ and FRS)

^^^This

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Also, has anyone posted a photoshop of brz lights onto the frs/86? if not can someone do it? It'll be nice to see what it'll look like, my imagination can only stretch so far lol.

Cheers

nevermind: Spaceywilly did a quick photoshop

You could just get it color matched. I though factory bumpers came unpainted? if they do come painted that is cool. A factory bumper can't be no more than like $500.

Now how do we get rid of the silver trim in the BRZ?

The subaru brochure shows Carbon dash kit already. I think once the car is out interior dash kits will be plentiful. A simple overlay kit would take away the silver glare.

I don't know why every one keeps saying this. The BRZ lights clearly angle down sharper than the GT86. Looks like you could put GT86 lights on a BRZ with a bit of cutting, but not vice-versa.

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I think it's because some Moto-P guy had a "source" tell him they're the same dimensions, so unless my eyes are lying to me, I dunno if that's true.

The headlights are direct fit, its the bumpers shape around the headlights that is different in both cars " sharper edges in the 86 bumper also the headlights sits deeper than the BRZ " which creates the illusion.

Basically..

Q. Can you physically swap and bolt on a BRZ and 86/FRS lights?
A. Yes.

Q. Are you going to run into some fitment problems with the 2 different front bumpers?
A. Yes.

Q. Is it a direct swap.
A. Yes and No

Q. Could BRZ lights look weird on a FRS and vise versa.
A. Maybe, depending on how much cutoff you have.

Q. Are the head lamp wiring the same for both cars?
A. I have no clue.


This is just one of the reasons why i'm designing two separate front bumper aeros rather than 1 bumper for both cars because of the design of the lights (not the physical dimensions of the lamps).

After seeing this photo of an FR-S headlight, I change my mind and do believe they are the same dimension.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45...9/402eacd0.jpg

If you pause this video at 2:20, you can see the corner of the BRZ headlights do indeed tuck in behind the bumper and if left exposed would most likely have the same shape as the FR-S. The crease on both headlights is what's convincing me that they're the same.
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Moto-P is a reliable source I would say I mean he is the founder of club4ag which Toyota themselves said they talked to when the originally wanted to bring a car into market with the spirit of the 86

He has also driven it

I think they will swap over 100% normally when you think of sister cars they are usually more different but not this case all in the bumoer treatment and trims