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itdansharpe 12-28-2012 01:09 PM

Auto Fitment Calculator
 
Hi all, I've compiled a ton of information floating around on this forum, and used some of my coding experience to pull together a real-time fitment calculator.

The way it works is, it defaults to the stock tire size, and allows you to compare tires. You can also select front or rear fitment.

http://frsproject.magiclabs.io

Feel free to ask questions.

- 1 pixel equals 1 millimeter.
- 1" drop = 2/5mm offset tuck. (f/r)

*UPDATED*

I have added:
- Verification (FT86 Users can now vote!!!!)
- Fender Gap distance.
- Offset From Flush distance.
- Camber
- Wheel Width
- Graphics!
- Comparison Line
- Ability to view: Wheel, Tire, Hub, or Rotor (more accurate version coming soon..)

I'd appreciate anyone confirming these numbers.

mashal 12-28-2012 01:12 PM

Cool. Good job

GTB/ZR-1 12-28-2012 01:17 PM

AWESOME JOB! Is there any way to include camber in your calculator? That would really complete it.

Thank you!

ayau 12-28-2012 01:22 PM

nice job!

there's one downfall about tire measurements though. a 215 oem tire will have slightly different tread width than a 215 sticky tire. i'm not sure how tire manufacturers choose to measure their tire width.

itdansharpe 12-28-2012 01:30 PM

Thanks guys. There's definitely room for error, so don't take this as the be all end all. It is purely to get an idea of how different tire sizes, offsets, and ride height relate to the fender.

I'd be happy to try and calculate camber, but would need a good technical source on how to calculate it.

Dezoris 12-28-2012 01:42 PM

Really cool alternative to the miata tire calculator.

ZDan 12-28-2012 01:51 PM

Something's wrong. It shows the outside of a 245/40-17 with stock +48 offset being at the same location as the outside of the stock 215/45-17 on +48. The two should be centered, with the 245 having the outer sidewall 15mm further outboard, and the inner sidewall 15mm further inboard.

Should look like this:
http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...&Submit=Submit

itdansharpe 12-28-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan (Post 631739)
Something's wrong. It shows the outside of a 245/40-17 with stock +48 offset being at the same location as the outside of the stock 215/45-17 on +48. The two should be centered, with the 245 having the outer sidewall 15mm further outboard, and the inner sidewall 15mm further inboard.

Should look like this:
http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...&Submit=Submit

Thanks for the tip. I did recall this during the coding process, but forgot about it after the fact. I've fixed this.

ZDan 12-28-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itdansharpe (Post 631803)
Thanks for the tip. I did recall this during the coding process, but forgot about it after the fact. I've fixed this.

Kickass :D

mugen79 12-28-2012 04:44 PM

You are a genius sire!!!!!

jeebus 12-28-2012 05:06 PM

I like it, but it should really have rim width as a factor in there somehow....

jeebus 12-28-2012 05:10 PM

also, the fender gap calculation can't be right. I just picked a tire that was 9mm taller in diameter and the fender gap shows 9mm less...shouldn't it be 1/2 that?

seven 12-28-2012 05:35 PM

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/r...ig_bowdown.gif

NSV 12-29-2012 04:17 AM

Awesome !

Joeprelude 12-29-2012 04:38 PM

I always used http://rimsntires.com/specs.jsp but always wished they had a visual for the specific car's suspension and fender/QP.

itdansharpe 12-29-2012 05:21 PM

My fender gap calculation is strictly vertical gap, it doesn't account from the edge of the tire, as I can't assume what the corner radius of your specific brand of tire is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 632097)
also, the fender gap calculation can't be right. I just picked a tire that was 9mm taller in diameter and the fender gap shows 9mm less...shouldn't it be 1/2 that?


OmarGC 12-29-2012 05:32 PM

Rim width was removed?

Tansey86 12-29-2012 07:46 PM

Can you add camber to the mix? I feel like that would help.

jeebus 12-30-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itdansharpe (Post 633759)
My fender gap calculation is strictly vertical gap, it doesn't account from the edge of the tire, as I can't assume what the corner radius of your specific brand of tire is.

No, that's not what I mean. Compare a 215/45/17 to a 225/45/17. The diameter of the tire is 625mm vs 634mm, a 9mm difference. Your fender gap calculation shows a change from 54mm to 45mm, also a 9mm difference. But what you aren't factoring in, is that increasing tire height doesn't push it directly closer to the fender. The tire is attached to the car at the hub, and the height change occurs above AND below that. So it would be 4.5mm closer to the fender, the other 4.5mm increase at the bottom would increase ground clearance, not decrease distance to the fender.

itdansharpe 12-30-2012 07:05 PM

Correct. I will adjust this shortly.

jeebus 12-31-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itdansharpe (Post 635324)
Correct. I will adjust this shortly.

Yay I win at math today. :P

DarrenDriven 01-03-2013 11:55 PM

Dayam, this is sweet! Added as one of the first links in the Wheel Directory!
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7535

OrbitalEllipses 01-03-2013 11:59 PM

Neat, but without wheel width this tool is very incomplete in showing you changes in fitment as width changes fitment the most drastically.

Bonburner 01-04-2013 02:54 AM

Oh wow this is pretty awesome stuff!
Thanks a ton for this!

qijian 01-04-2013 03:15 AM

pretty nice tool to have handy since i can't get the miata one to work properly on my firefox.

Skywgn1 01-05-2013 12:01 AM

Pretty cool. Very nice job.

JDMenrique 01-05-2013 10:01 AM

Very nice! Thanks

Foobar 01-05-2013 10:34 AM

So this tool assumes that the wheel width is equal to the tire width?

Nice work, in any event, but if you can somehow include wheel width in this, that would make this the mots comprehensive tool available to us. Unfortunately, I'm not sure of the math involved with using wheel width and tire width together to come up with the exact fitments.

itdansharpe 01-09-2013 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeebus (Post 636300)
Yay I win at math today. :P

I have corrected for this calculation.

JDMenrique 01-19-2013 09:49 AM

this should seriously be stickied

etherealfall 01-19-2013 10:08 AM

This is awesome. :)

raul 01-19-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foobar (Post 645929)
So this tool assumes that the wheel width is equal to the tire width?

Yes, otherwise he would have to model shapes for tire stretch, which I'm sure is a lot more work.

Tansey86 01-19-2013 02:41 PM

How accurate is this?

Also can you put in how close it would be to the shock/struts on the inside?

Pure Automotive 01-19-2013 02:51 PM

Nice, I wish my math skills were that useful, you should go to MIT....http://www.wildsoundmovies.com/image...ious_jesse.jpg
:thumbup:

itdansharpe 01-21-2013 05:27 PM

Thanks guys. The script assumes an 'appropriate' wheel width, because drawing tire stretch is tricky to do. If there was enough demand, I'd take that challenge on.

As for inside clearance, if someone wants to provide some kind of diagram, or something to work with, I'd be happy to add it in.

coyote 01-21-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itdansharpe (Post 631695)
I'd be happy to try and calculate camber, but would need a good technical source on how to calculate it.

Mate I'm not a technical source, but if you know the camber you are targeting it's pretty simple to work out the resultant change of position of the tyre.


x = sin(c) * (D - SH) / 2


Where:

x is change in tyre position
c is camber in degrees
D is diameter of tyre
SH is sidewall height

You could leave the sidewall height out, but it just approximates halfway up the sidewall as the widest point of the tyre.

Sportsguy83 01-29-2013 04:26 AM

bumpity..

BlaineWasHere 01-29-2013 12:04 PM

IMO it's incomplete without wheel width. These numbers arn't the same for a 8" wheel than a 9.5" wheel.

itdansharpe 01-29-2013 08:02 PM

Hi all! I had some time to redesign and add in some key features people have been asking for:

- Camber
- Wheel Width

Enjoy! Maybe this will earn me a sticky now? ha!

Tansey86 01-29-2013 08:12 PM

I'd still love a way to see how close the wheel would be to hitting the shock/struts or a coilover for those of us who want to run a wide tire out back.


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