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vh_supra26 12-21-2012 12:21 PM
Toyota working on a sedan version of the 86/FR-S? Toyota Furia Concept
 
New Toyota Furia Sedan Concept Teased Ahead of Detroit Motor Show, Which Model Does it Preview?



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With the 2013 North American International Auto Show in Detroit approaching closer, more and more automakers are opening their cards, though, most of the times, not to the extent we would all like…

Toyota, for example, announced on Thursday that it will host the world premiere of a new study called the Furia through a teaser video and a simple statement saying that it will be an "an exciting new sedan concept".

That's all we get from the Japanese company, so we still don't know if it's a conceptual proposal for a new offering, or a replacement for a current vehicle.

We are aware of the fact that Toyota's future plans include a successor for the Corolla compact sedan and the Prius, plus a new sub-compact offering based on the next generation of the Mazda2 that will be built by Mazda at its plant in Mexico (no word, though, if it's going to be a hatchback, a sedan or something entirely different). Or how about a sedan based on the new Scion FR-S? Only time will tell, so make sure to stay tune for more info from Toyota.

After you take a look at the screenshots and the video, head towards the comments and tell us what you think the Furia is.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaWk0YDsO7Y"]Toyota Furia Concept Preview - 2013 NAIAS - YouTube[/ame]

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/12...pt-teased.html

gily25 12-21-2012 12:47 PM
Corolla is progressively falling to the Focus so I would say this will be a car targeted at the Focus...which will mean it needs sporty lines, carbon fiber, etc. Doubt it'll be rwd or use the boxer engine so it won't really be a sedan version of our car.

Autoweek came to the same conclusion:
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...ROIT/121229964

vh_supra26 12-21-2012 12:50 PM
Toyota FT-86 sedan tipped
 
Older article but you get the idea

http://www.carsguide.com.au/images/u...our-door-w.jpg
Using the FT-86?s platform for a sports sedan (our artists impression pictured) is a kind of insurance policy to cover any potential shortfall FT-86 sales.

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THERE is more to Toyota's youth-driven FT-86 project than people first thought.

The born-again Sprinter is definitely a coupe and now there will be a four-door sedan for Toyota showrooms. Even though sedans are not popular in Japan - with the exception of the car sold as the Lexus IS200 and Toyota Altezza - Toyota can see serious potential in a global car from the FT-86.

The loyal Altezza customers are one reason why, according to a source close to Toyota, the sedan has been given the go-ahead. It also helps that the basics are available and easy to tweak for four-door work.

In truth, using the FT-86’s platform for a sports sedan is a kind of insurance policy to cover any potential shortfall FT-86 sales. At the same time, it makes the most of the rare rear-drive platform.

One Japanese commentator even goes so far as to say that the sports sedan project is a safety net, just in case the FT-86 fails, so that Toyota does not have to cancel the project altogether.

The Carsguide source tells us that the sedan will not only incorporate the FT-86’s Subaru Liberty-based mechanical package, but get the same 150-kiloWatt boxer engine and six-speed manual transmission (or CVT) from the Impreza as well.

Expected to fall into a segment rivalling something between the BMW 1- Series and 3-Series, and including the Audi A3 and the Golf GTI, the Japanese domestic sticker price should land near $30,000.

Given that more power might be required down the line, Toyota will have the ability to bring the Subaru Outback’s 3.6 litre H6 engine into the equation. But by the time the new sports sedan - not to mention the FT-86 coupe- finally makes it to showrooms in 2012, Subaru will have its own in- house hybrid boxer engine.

This will create yet another powertrain opportunity for Toyota and a package that will, according to our source, be more exciting to drive than Toyota’s current crop of hybrids.
http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and...6_sedan_tipped

Rayme 12-21-2012 12:55 PM
DO IT TOYOTA

vh_supra26 12-21-2012 01:00 PM
Scion could use a compact RWD sedan :D

wbradley 12-21-2012 01:01 PM
Nice!

i_4got 12-21-2012 01:03 PM
Looks like a tC but with 4 doors.

vh_supra26 12-21-2012 01:20 PM
Toyota Teases Sporty Furia Concept Ahead Of 2013 Detroit Auto Show
 
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Toyota has confirmed it will unveil a new concept car at the 2013 Detroit Auto Show next month, and to help build excitement has released this fiery teaser video.

The only official details are that the new concept will be called the Furia, and it will be sedan.

As the video reveals, the Furia concept looks to be a sporty sedan resembling something straight out of the Fast and Furious movies. Perhaps that’s even where Toyota derived the concept’s name from.

Some of the visible elements in the teaser are a carbon fiber diffuser with integrated exhaust tips, a carbon fiber trunk lid spoiler, sunken headlights, a hexagonal-pattern grille, and angular tail-lights littered with LEDs.

The few seconds at the end of the short teaser clip show the car’s profile, which looks similar to the NS4 plug-in hybrid sedan concept from the 2012 Detroit Auto Show. At the time of its unveiling, Toyota said the NS4 hinted at the automaker’s future styling direction.

As for the Furia, Toyota hasn't revealed whether it previews a future production model, though there’s been some speculation that the platform underpinning the Scion FR-S could eventually spawn a sporty rear-wheel-drive sedan--perhaps a replacement for the Mark X sold overseas?

Of course, we could just be looking at a preview of the next-generation Corolla sedan, which is due for a redesign next year.

We should know more once the Furia makes its Detroit debut. The unveiling is currently scheduled for January 14 at 2:25 pm EST. You can follow our ongoing coverage of the 2013 Detroit Auto Show in the meantime via our dedicated show page.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...uto-show-video

Ingen 12-21-2012 01:27 PM
lol.

Sure, why not. If you're going to go adding doors and stuff though, they'd better consider adding more power.

vh_supra26 12-21-2012 01:38 PM
Poll added

jchall30 12-21-2012 01:40 PM
Betcha it's the next Camry. ;)

JC

vh_supra26 12-21-2012 01:45 PM
lol we just got a new Camry

whaap 12-21-2012 01:54 PM
It looks like the rebirth of the Lexus SC 300. This time they'll probably badge it Scion!
:burnrubber:

vh_supra26 12-21-2012 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whaap (Post 621334)
It looks like the rebirth of the Lexus SC 300. This time they'll probably badge it Scion!
:burnrubber:
Lexus is saying that the LF-CC will replace the discontinued Lexus SC. Size wise (183.4inch), it fits in between the 1st gen (191.3 in/192.5 in) and 2nd gen SC (177.8 in/178.5 in). Reports are also saying its about 3inch longer than its IS sedan sibling.

http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00403431_l.jpg

i_4got 12-21-2012 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 621342)
Lexus is saying that the LF-CC will replace the discontinued Lexus SC. Size wise (183.4inch), it fits in between the 1st gen (191.3 in/192.5 in) and 2nd gen SC (177.8 in/178.5 in). Reports are also saying its about 3inch longer than its IS sedan sibling.
Those wheels looks like a mess.

Nevermore 12-21-2012 02:21 PM
From the silhouette picture it looks too long to be a Corolla, then again all these cars seem to be getting bigger. I mean, the newest Corolla seems like it's bigger than an early 2000's Camry. That's just speculation though. This might be the most likely idea, either way.

I think it's too early for an FR-S sedan. Not sure about a tC sedan, doesn't seem like it would make sense. If the poll said what do you want it to be, I'd definitely pick the Mazda-Toyota option, because I'll admit, I'm a Mazda fanboy.

SubieNate 12-21-2012 02:25 PM
I'd be down for a nice new RWD sports sedan from Toyota. If they used a stretched 86 platform they might even be able to get decent weight distribution with a 6 up front since there would be more weight farther back for the rear doors, bigger seats, longer roof, etc.

Nathan

FR-S/GT-86 12-21-2012 03:17 PM
This must be a FWD prototype... look closely at the side view and at how short the front end is... this is most certainly NOT based on the FR-S/BRZ platform. Where's the engine, totally under the windshield? Looks kinda daft if you ask me.

ScionFrsFan 12-21-2012 03:36 PM
If they badge it a scion...It will show Toyota is going full out to change the look of "scion".
lol then everyone who changed there badge to Toyota will want a scion badge. :bellyroll:

whaap 12-21-2012 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ScionFrsFan (Post 621540)
If they badge it a scion...It will show Toyota is going full out to change the look of "scion".
lol then everyone who changed there badge to Toyota will want a scion badge. :bellyroll:

LOL. Wouldn't that be a kick in the head? :burnrubber:

russv 12-21-2012 03:51 PM
I like it! Adding a hatchback would be nice too. But need to keep the price reasonable. Upgraded interior would be needed as well.

BlaineWasHere 12-21-2012 04:36 PM
Toyota has made nothing but garbage for the past 6-7 years. Almost any small car offering available is better than a Carolla right now. Don't even get me started on the dumb ass sheep that buy any of the Prius variations. I'd buy anything Kia right now over its Toyota equivalent.

SubieNate 12-21-2012 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FR-S/GT-86 (Post 621502)
This must be a FWD prototype... look closely at the side view and at how short the front end is... this is most certainly NOT based on the FR-S/BRZ platform. Where's the engine, totally under the windshield? Looks kinda daft if you ask me.
I have to agree. The front overhang is way to big for RWD.

JayNutter 12-21-2012 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by i_4got (Post 621211)
Looks like a tC but with 4 doors.
100% agree

Veloist 12-21-2012 05:55 PM
It's most likely the 2014 11th-Gen USDM Corolla.

If it is, it's due for a remake next year, and it's interesting how they would make a concept car for it. But the last two Corollas were revealed at NAIA and SEMA respectively, without concepts. Toyota rarely makes concept cars for redesigns as well. (Unless it's Scion/Lexus)

They could be hyping it?

Many sources have already stated that the next corolla will undergo a very dramatic change, yet test mule cars do not indicate that.

It looks that trapezoidal wedge-like headlight is going to be making its way into Future Toyota models, we first saw it on the NS4 Concept.

vh_supra26 12-24-2012 01:35 PM
Heres what another member had posted in the other thread. I'm still hoping for a compact RWD sedan from Toyota :D

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 622384)
I got a call from Scion yesterday for a survey and they asked a lot of question about interior space, materials, and back seat room. I told them i would have been happy if it was a 2 seater but it sounds like market research for a 4 door version. With the success they are having you can't blame them, i would like to see a 5 door liftback model with 4 bucket seats and full length console or a 4 door "coupe" a la VW CC.


Is it possible that we will get a Scion/Toyota version of the new WRX since they are saying it will be more seperate from the Impreza it has been based off of?

RandomFRSguy 12-24-2012 02:01 PM
The rumor flying around the dealership i work at is that it is the new celica!

ydooby 12-24-2012 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RandomFRSguy (Post 625512)
The rumor flying around the dealership i work at is that it is the new celica!
A 4-door Celica? No way!:thumbdown:

JoeBoxer 12-24-2012 02:12 PM
Speaking of sedans the new Avalon actually looks pretty good if you were interested in that type of car.

Jared0934 12-24-2012 02:39 PM
who really knows what it will look like in the end. Look how far off our frs/brz was from the 86 concept. But I definitely agree the corolla needs to make a change if it wants to keep up with the trending 4doorsporty thing people like these days...

IloveBaldEagles 12-24-2012 03:55 PM
The Yaris is the new Corolla.
The Corolla is the new Camry.
The Camry is the new Avalon.
The new Avalon is just something new.
The Corolla have not changed much in the past 7 years, so I will assume this will be the next gen Corolla.

m.box.design 12-24-2012 04:15 PM
Modern age Toyota Sprinter sedan?? That's my guess!

ruskymx 12-25-2012 12:22 AM
2014 Corolla with a CVT....it's coming next year.

http://www.otoreleasedates.com/wp-co...rolla-2014.jpg

Ruskymx

Exhaust 12-25-2012 03:05 AM
If they make it AWD im dead :lol:

vh_supra26 12-28-2012 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ruskymx (Post 626144)
2014 Corolla with a CVT....it's coming next year.

http://www.otoreleasedates.com/wp-co...rolla-2014.jpg

Ruskymx
Is this a rendering or actual photos from Toyota?

ruskymx 12-28-2012 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 631306)
Is this a rendering or actual photos from Toyota?
I'm pretty sure this is an actual photo. I was at a training seminar at Central Atlantic Toyota in the beginning of December and they showed us pictures of the new Corolla and the new Tundra. This looks exactly like the picture they showed us except it was a 3/4 view from the opposite side (front end facing left). I found this picture on Google. I tried to find a picture on Google of the new Tundra but none of them looked like the picture they showed us. I'll admit that I didn't look very hard though, just a quick search.

Ruskymx

vh_supra26 01-09-2013 10:55 PM
Toyota Shares New Photo, Not Much Else of Furia Concept
 

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From the looks of things, Toyota does not intend to show us its new Furia Concept in its fullness before the car's world premiere at the Detroit Auto Show on January 14.


Instead, the Japanese automaker continues the teasing with a cropped shot of the sedan's rear quarter revealing its bubbly tail lamps and carbon fiber boot lid spoiler.

The only piece of information we get from Toyota today regards the way the automaker will present the Furia at its Detroit motor show booth:

"It will be revealed using a custom-built structure housing thirty of Samsung Display’s new 46-inch transparent LCD screens," the company said in a statement. "Toyota will be the first automotive company to use this technology to reveal a vehicle at a major international auto show."
While Toyota may be coy about the Furia, we believe it may hint at the design direction for the new North American market Corolla sedan.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2013/01...much-else.html

Laika 01-09-2013 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ruskymx (Post 626144)
2014 Corolla with a CVT....it's coming next year.



Ruskymx

In the near future when I know I need to be up early for work the next morning but I just can't seem to fall asleep, I'm gonna pull up this picture on my phone.

ruskymx 01-14-2013 04:09 PM
I told you so......well...kinda. We'll see what the production version looks like

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/14/t...-detroit-2013/

Sasquachulator 01-15-2013 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vh_supra26 (Post 631306)
Is this a rendering or actual photos from Toyota?
Its a rendering. the donor car is a European Toyota Avensis. It actually looks mostly like that, but the front end was modified a bit in the chop.

The Avensis is actually quite nice looking and i always wondered why that never turned into the Corolla....apparently its a bit bigger than a corolla.

IMO the Corolla is going to look like a sedan version of the 2013 Toyota Auris (A Euro hatchback thats pretty much a renamed corolla hatch)


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