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knaa 12-18-2012 02:17 PM

recommendations for head units?
 
does anyone have any recommendations for head units for the scion frs?
i have the stock one and i want one with navi.
main things i want in the hu are: navi, bluetooth, aux port, usb, and touch screen

Ryan86 12-18-2012 02:25 PM

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eBay, Toyota/Scion unit.

joop1987 12-18-2012 02:33 PM

I'll be putting a Kenwood DNX6190HD because it runs Garmin navigation.

2forme 12-18-2012 02:35 PM

I vote for an Android head unit. I may be a bit biased, but they really are that much better than the "high" end kenwoods/pioneers/etc in terms of operation and capability. Unless you're running a full competition level stereo, you should seriously consider an Android head unit.

The Ca-Fi is a nice unit and Ca-Fi knock off is pretty nice if you're on a budget.

Guillaume 12-18-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan86 (Post 615554)
eBay, Toyota/Scion unit.

Interesting, is it a USDM-spec unit? And does SA use the same frequency spectrum as Europe or else the US (where every other decimal is skipped)?

Ryan86 12-18-2012 02:55 PM

All-in-one 7-inch Car DVD Player with GPS, Support Built-in HD MPEG4



Features:
Super wide 7inch 16:9 digital TFT real color screen display
SiRF Altas A5 solution with ARM 11 dual-core processor, 500MHz + 250ESP
GPS navigation + DVD + FM/AM + Bluetooth+ IPOD cable + TV (Analog TV)
Digital panel with 800x480 pixels
Full touch screen and remote control
AV input/output
AM/FM receiver, auto scan and memory stations, 30 preset stations (FM18, AM12)
DVD, VCD, CD, MP3 and MP4 playback, Hi-Fi sound quality
SD card playing function
52W x4 power output
Rearview camera input
Bluetooth for hands free
Built-in GPS navigation system
Steering wheel control
3D and animation OSD menu
Picture-in-picture function
Two-way canbus system (optional)
GPS Module:
Chipe Set: SIRF AT551
Warm Start: ≤ 5s
Cold Start: ≤ 15s
Channels: Up to ≤ 20
Retrieval Satellite Time Precision: 100ms
Location Precision: up to 5 meters possible
Receiver: L1 (1575.42MHz), C/A code (1.023MHz)
Sensitivity: -158dBm
Ultra low power consumption
Software:
OS: Microsoft WinCE6.0
MS Media player
Navigation Software with voice prompt, 3D map view, waypoint, route, custom POIs
Stylus, Software Keyboard, Hot keys
Multi-languages OSD and input
Accessories included:
Main unit
GPS antenna
Remote control
Touch Pen
ISO harness
User Manual
I see you are in Europe. The system units allows for both GB and US units of measure. Another nice feature is the vehicle set up for fuel price and consumption, which records travel and cost for travel tax claims.

Fonzi 12-19-2012 07:05 PM

The wife just recieved my xmas present yesterday. It is the knock off Ca-Fi andriod. I tried everything to have her give it to me now but I was not winning that battle. I did get to hold it LOL. I had to make sure it wasn't broken:D! Looks really nice. So all in all i will have some photos of it christmas day. My 10" alpine type r woofer came in today and Ma dukes picked up a set of 6.5 alpine type r speakers for xmas and BRZ wing:confused0068:!

Dadhawk 12-19-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan86 (Post 615554)
eBay, Toyota/Scion unit.

Do you have a model number, and is it plug and play or does it require an adapter/wiring?

Asphalt~86 12-19-2012 08:15 PM

Whats the price of the knockoff

Fonzi 12-19-2012 08:20 PM

$450.. has the same specs except this is a 7" not a 6.2" like CA-FI

2forme 12-19-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzi (Post 618093)
$450.. has the same specs except this is a 7" not a 6.2" like CA-FI

Then it's not the knockoff. The knockoff has the buttons down both sides and two knobs. I'm a fan of that over the bigger screen. Makes navigating around android much easier (you don't have to go into the music app every time you want to switch tracks).

Which one did you get? Pic?

This is the knockoff....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/In-Dash-Car-...4e95c7&vxp=mtr

I have one in my other car and its actually pretty damn nice. No capacitive touch and no Torque (yet ;) ), but pretty nice otherwise.

Fonzi 12-19-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 618105)
Then it's not the knockoff. The knockoff has the buttons down both sides and two knobs. I'm a fan of that over the bigger screen. Makes navigating around android much easier (you don't have to go into the music app every time you want to switch tracks).

Which one did you get? Pic?

This is the knockoff....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/In-Dash-Car-...4e95c7&vxp=mtr

I have one in my other car and its actually pretty damn nice. No capacitive touch and no Torque (yet ;) ), but pretty nice otherwise.

Actually that is the exact unit there that I got.. Were they do the advertisment below it says 6.2 but when you scroll up to below the product picture were the specs are it says 7" and he varified it was 7". torque can be added

What is capacitive touch?

2forme 12-19-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fonzi (Post 618109)
Actually that is the exact unit there that I got.. Were they do the advertisment below it says 6.2 but when you scroll up to below the product picture were the specs are it says 7" and he varified it was 7". torque can be added

What is capacitive touch?

It's 6.2" if that's the unit. Measure it yourself.

Also Torque will run, but it won't interface with any of the OBD2 adapters. Android 2.3 only supports BT OBD2 adapters, and these Android head units won't support adding BT devices. They only support Phone/Music over BT.

The genuine Ca-Fi gets around this with a specialized version of Torque made to use USB OBD2 on Android 2.3.

Capacitive touch is what makes it so easy on your phones/tablets to swipe and use multitouch. The screen type on this one is resistive. You can only use one finger at a time and you have to physically push against the screen instead of just brushing it. It can make scrolling kinda meh. I just left the screen protector on mine and use the tip of my finger nail.

Don't let this deter you though. The unit is pretty kick ass. I was playing angry birds at a light the other day :). You'll enjoy it. Tell your gf she did an awesome job hehe.

Fonzi 12-19-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 618145)
It's 6.2" if that's the unit. Measure it yourself.

Also Torque will run, but it won't interface with any of the OBD2 adapters. Android 2.3 only supports BT OBD2 adapters, and these Android head units won't support adding BT devices. They only support Phone/Music over BT.

The genuine Ca-Fi gets around this with a specialized version of Torque made to use USB OBD2 on Android 2.3.

Capacitive touch is what makes it so easy on your phones/tablets to swipe and use multitouch. The screen type on this one is resistive. You can only use one finger at a time and you have to physically push against the screen instead of just brushing it. It can make scrolling kinda meh. I just left the screen protector on mine and use the tip of my finger nail.

Don't let this deter you though. The unit is pretty kick ass. I was playing angry birds at a light the other day :). You'll enjoy it. Tell your gf she did an awesome job hehe.

I will definitly check the size but is currently wrapped at this point. :bonk: Not that big of a deal. although it would be sweet if it was 7" like he said.

The torque situation bums me out tho. I was really hoping that would work since turbo is going on in march. Hopefully this is something that can get figured out. There is a USB connection on these units, maybe trying to get a hold of that special torque program

Gir 12-19-2012 10:49 PM

Kenwood Toyota sized units are where it's at:

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...74608216_n.jpg

abutterman 12-19-2012 10:52 PM

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I went with a Kenwood DNX6990HD. It performs extremely well and actually has much better audio quality than the stock unit (properly set as FR-S). I just popped the usb connections out and pulled the kenwood cables through that space.

xjohnx 12-19-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gir (Post 618398)
Kenwood Toyota sized units are where it's at:

I don't think they're available in the US, unfortunately. :( I hope I'm wrong on this.

lbroskee 12-19-2012 11:38 PM

for real, where can i find a 200mm head unit? all the US kenwoods are only 182 =/

Gir 12-20-2012 12:14 AM

I was extremely lucky to get mine brand new from eBay. Maybe ask a kenwood dealer if they can order one in.

Asphalt~86 12-20-2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 618478)
for real, where can i find a 200mm head unit? all the US kenwoods are only 182 =/

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kenwood-DDX-...item20cdb6e3cf

SixSpeed 12-20-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 618416)
I don't think they're available in the US, unfortunately. :( I hope I'm wrong on this.

Nope, you're right

If you want an aftermarket stereo to fill in the gap. Audiovox has a second line called Advent. They do OEM-Style aftermarket stereos, just google them.

lbroskee 12-20-2012 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SixSpeed (Post 618535)
Nope, you're right

If you want an aftermarket stereo to fill in the gap. Audiovox has a second line called Advent. They do OEM-Style aftermarket stereos, just google them.

looks lik i need to be a dealer to get them?

Ryan86 12-20-2012 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 618073)
Do you have a model number, and is it plug and play or does it require an adapter/wiring?

Unit is straight plug in and comes with the DIN cables that fit Toyota.

knaa 12-20-2012 04:50 AM

hmmm never been a fan of resistive touch screens, always stuck with capacitive. but since im on a budget i might go with the ca-fi knockoff.

2forme 12-20-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by knaa (Post 618821)
hmmm never been a fan of resistive touch screens, always stuck with capacitive. but since im on a budget i might go with the ca-fi knockoff.

I would absolutely suggest saving the 600$ :)

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 09:36 AM

For those asking for an Android 4.0 Unit, what about this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/In-Dash-Andr...item20ce32b59a

http://173.252.213.107//GS7019A/1.jpg

Or this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Double-Din-A...item20ce1e08b4

xjohnx 12-20-2012 09:42 AM

I wonder if that is a full native android system? or if Android is being emulated on top of another OS? The reason i ask is because this image seems to suggest you have to push a button to launch the android side of things.

http://i.imgur.com/AKjDI.jpg

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 619003)
I wonder if that is a full native android system? or if Android is being emulated on top of another OS? The reason i ask is because this image seems to suggest you have to push a button to launch the android side of things.

I think that is just a Launcher, I doubt Android is emulated (though anything is possible, it wouldn't make sense to go through the trouble)

lbroskee 12-20-2012 10:02 AM

too bad it's not full 200mm wide tho

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 619039)
too bad it's not full 200mm wide tho

I know, but it's tempting having Android 4.0 and everything else.

xjohnx 12-20-2012 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 619033)
I think that is just a Launcher, I doubt Android is emulated (though anything is possible, it wouldn't make sense to go through the trouble)

maybe it's just the interface that's throwing me off. I'd love to see if @ritalin 's UI could be ported to this headunit.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/7850694/On%20the%20Road.png

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 619063)
maybe it's just the interface that's throwing me off. I'd love to see if @ritalin 's UI could be ported to this headunit.

That looks awesome.

2forme 12-20-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 619033)
I think that is just a Launcher, I doubt Android is emulated (though anything is possible, it wouldn't make sense to go through the trouble)

A launcher that hides the home/recent/back and status bar?

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 619069)
A launcher that hides the home/recent/back and status bar?

Yes, the notification bar and buttons can be hidden by a Launcher. (e. g. Launcher Pro, Go Launcher EX)

2forme 12-20-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 619079)
Yes, the notification bar and buttons can be hidden by a Launcher. (e. g. Launcher Pro, Go Launcher EX)

I dunno, I'm a bit weary about it. Might be a windows CE/android hybrid. That app store picture looks suspect as well.

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 619104)
I dunno, I'm a bit weary about it. Might be a windows CE/android hybrid. That app store picture looks suspect as well.

I could be wrong, who knows. I just don't see why would anyone go through the difficulty of emulating Android when you can just simply run it.

2forme 12-20-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 619112)
I could be wrong, who knows. I just don't see why would anyone go through the difficulty of emulating Android when you can just simply run it.

You can run both systems side by side. I mean look at the HTC HD2. That thing can run anything haha.

I should just design and manufacture my own head unit. Dual/Quad core, Capacitive touch, jelly bean.

Sportsguy83 12-20-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 619118)
You can run both systems side by side. I mean look at the HTC HD2. That thing can run anything haha.

I should just design and manufacture my own head unit. Dual/Quad core, Capacitive touch, jelly bean.

I know you can run it... Again, don't see much benefit of it when Android offers it all.

On the other hand GO AHEAD and manufacture it. You would have a lot of interest :D

xjohnx 12-20-2012 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2forme (Post 619118)
I should just design and manufacture my own head unit. Dual/Quad core, Capacitive touch, jelly bean.

i'm shocked one of the major players hasn't already done this. Done right it could easily take over the headunit market.

2forme 12-20-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 619176)
i'm shocked one of the major players hasn't already done this. Done right it could easily take over the headunit market.

Why would they? I mean they are force feeding the entire market extremely antiquated systems for a premium. That 1500$ kenwood unit? You bet it doesn't run anything over 800MHz soc on Windows CE. They pump out mostly the same hardware every year with a different face and maybe some software enhancements for a premium. The Pioneer X910-940 is a perfect example.

I'm actively pursuing the connections to make this happen. Problem is I'm a software guy and that only goes so far. haha.


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