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bacon_cheese_beer 12-14-2012 03:45 PM

4-AGE engine swap on FR-S
 
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just saw this pic on instagram. i dont have any other info.

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chutrain 12-14-2012 03:51 PM

At least it's a Toyota motor.

Frostyman 12-14-2012 03:58 PM

haha, even ripped out the inner fenders. nice.

Cheddar 12-14-2012 04:06 PM

Should have gone with a beams

OrbitalEllipses 12-14-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frostyman (Post 609261)
haha, even ripped out the inner fenders. nice.

There's no metal there, just plastic liners from the inside of the well.

fatoni 12-14-2012 05:08 PM

i understand the whole unique aspect but at the end of the day its a boatload of wasted time only to go backward decades in technology.

Superhatch 12-14-2012 05:28 PM

My guess would be that it's just soft mounted for a shoot.

Sorry...not my guess, my hope.

chulooz 12-14-2012 05:34 PM

I was hoping the same thing! A lil trolling seems afoot again.

ill roller 12-14-2012 06:34 PM

That car would be so fun to drive with some ITB's!

root 12-14-2012 06:48 PM

Wondering when someone would do that, though a 3SG(T)E power would seem more appropriate given cars weight.

ill roller 12-14-2012 07:25 PM

Beams 3SGE would be the most ideal.

firehawk 12-15-2012 06:22 AM

Oh hey, a bigport 4A-GE - now how about some twin-barrel Mikuni PHH sidedrafts on it? ;)

Grishbok 12-15-2012 07:49 AM

my god, that 4age motor totally photobombed the guys awesome thumbs up facebook photo!

KAOS86 12-15-2012 07:50 AM

What the hell is the point to this? This thing is just a shell now, as soon as you rip the motor out of the car so goes the soul of it as well. Anyway with the amount of info from the first round of forced induction setups, isn't this kind of pointless the stock motor looks like it has balls all of it's own.

dem00n 12-15-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KAOS86 (Post 610267)
What the hell is the point to this? This thing is just a shell now, as soon as you rip the motor out of the car so goes the soul of it as well. Anyway with the amount of info from the first round of forced induction setups, isn't this kind of pointless the stock motor looks like it has balls all of it's own.

I agree, if a car has a perfectly fine working and powerful engine then leave it in there.

Now if the engine is... ruined or your car doesn't have an engine...by all means go nuts.

alexmotrix 12-15-2012 10:29 AM

Don't worry, this guy is Pat Cyr from Canada, a pretty good drifter in DMCC, you may have seen him in proam circuit last years in the states with his turbo F20C powered green AE86 coupe

And this engine was one laying in his shop, he has too much AE86 around I think...

Wes B. 12-15-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 610293)
I agree, if a car has a perfectly fine working and powerful engine then leave it in there.

Now if the engine is... ruined or your car doesn't have an engine...by all means go nuts.

I'm sure there's a good reason for this particular swap...

86BRZ 12-15-2012 10:39 AM

Like to see the other way: an AE 86 with boxer FA 20 engine... Any one?

root 12-15-2012 04:13 PM

Naw. I sold my AE86 to get the FR-S and the one thing I miss is the 4AGE singing. Still got the AE82 so can still get my 4AGE melody.

zenki_levin 12-15-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KAOS86 (Post 610267)
What the hell is the point to this? This thing is just a shell now, as soon as you rip the motor out of the car so goes the soul of it as well. Anyway with the amount of info from the first round of forced induction setups, isn't this kind of pointless the stock motor looks like it has balls all of it's own.

No by putting the 4age in they actually put some real soul into it.


jk ;)

Cyrious G 12-15-2012 11:18 PM

Ha! That's me! Man this pic got around. As much as I love the 4ag, this was just funny idea we had!

Cyrious G 12-15-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 86BRZ (Post 610372)
Like to see the other way: an AE 86 with boxer FA 20 engine... Any one?

I actually measured it up to see if the FA20 would fit in an AE86, but the FA is just too wide. You would have to chop out the frame rails on the AE to make it fit. It would be a hell of a lot of work!

Exhaust 12-15-2012 11:28 PM

So.... wheres the 2j?

Cyrious G 12-15-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 611210)
So.... wheres the 2j?

man if i got a nickle for every time someone said "2j" to me...

Exhaust 12-15-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrious Garageworks (Post 611215)
man if i got a nickle for every time someone said "2j" to me...

Dont worry buddy, just sarcasm :)

root 12-16-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyrious Garageworks (Post 611197)
I actually measured it up to see if the FA20 would fit in an AE86, but the FA is just too wide. You would have to chop out the frame rails on the AE to make it fit. It would be a hell of a lot of work!

Maybe if you turned it sideways?

Turbowned 12-16-2012 11:40 AM

Thank goodness this is a joke! The 4A-GE bluetop is such a poor piece of 80's engineering. Not to mention it's probably heavier than an FA20.

Wes B. 12-16-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by root (Post 611268)
Maybe if you turned it sideways?

Thanks, I was gonna say something about that.

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 611745)
Thank goodness this is a joke! The 4A-GE bluetop is such a poor piece of 80's engineering. Not to mention it's probably heavier than an FA20.

Poor? In my own opinion, I think it was one of the best motors ever produced in the 80's.

Turbowned 12-16-2012 01:43 PM

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ElVAg74rD-W_ig
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

I dunno, I guess it was OK for it's time. However I'm used to living with many of them after they've racked up 150k+ and they suck at that point. Oil leaks everywhere, vacuum leaks, noisy valvetrain, and rod/crank bearings that are ready to spin if you don't monitor oil consumption with a microscope. And they make **** for power unless you buy an unobtanium Hasselgren FA version.

Wes B. 12-16-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 611937)
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ElVAg74rD-W_ig
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

I dunno, I guess it was OK for it's time. However I'm used to living with many of them after they've racked up 150k+ and they suck at that point. Oil leaks everywhere, vacuum leaks, noisy valvetrain, and rod/crank bearings that are ready to spin if you don't monitor oil consumption with a microscope. And they make **** for power unless you buy an unobtanium Hasselgren FA version.

True...you do bring up some very valid points.

fatoni 12-16-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 611937)
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ElVAg74rD-W_ig
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

I dunno, I guess it was OK for it's time. However I'm used to living with many of them after they've racked up 150k+ and they suck at that point. Oil leaks everywhere, vacuum leaks, noisy valvetrain, and rod/crank bearings that are ready to spin if you don't monitor oil consumption with a microscope. And they make **** for power unless you buy an unobtanium Hasselgren FA version.

i think it was a cool engine for 83 or whenever it came out. i have no idea why it would be put in an frs but i really liked it in my corolla and it was neat in my mr2 also.

zenki_levin 12-16-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 611937)
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...ElVAg74rD-W_ig
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

I dunno, I guess it was OK for it's time. However I'm used to living with many of them after they've racked up 150k+ and they suck at that point. Oil leaks everywhere, vacuum leaks, noisy valvetrain, and rod/crank bearings that are ready to spin if you don't monitor oil consumption with a microscope. And they make **** for power unless you buy an unobtanium Hasselgren FA version.

Well alot of engines don't even make 150k+ so saying it's poorly engineered is an overstatement.


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