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BRZ or 370Z, which would you choose?
If you get to choose from a BRZ and 370Z, in which you don't have to pay, and no you can't sell the 370Z to buy a BRZ, which one would you choose?
I always wanted a 370Z but it's $10000 more than the BRZ. I have already ordered a BRZ but wondering if it'll be cooler to be in a 370Z... |
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Common topic. There is already a threat in the FR-S/BRZ VS section of the forum. 370Z has it's advantages such as more power, but the BRZ drives better and is a bit more fun to throw into the corners. BRZ gets way better gas mileage as well.
Since I chose the BRZ over the 370Z, 335i, Audi A5 and E46 M3, you should know my answer. |
If you like going fast in a straight line - 370z
If you like handling and controlling the car, having fun on corners and breaking necks - BRZ |
I had a 350Z. Really nice car but it is kind of like an American pony car ie. heavy and powerful. I sold it and got/built something much more nimble in my 2ZZ powered MR-S and it is much more fun to drive. My choice would be the BRZ over the 370Z.
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Well... you're in a BRZ forum so you can expect almost all BRZ-biased responses. Right now the BRZ is very cool because it is trending. That coolness may or may not die down to be less cool than the Z in a few years. If we start seeing them driving around everywhere... not so cool.
The Z is set out to be a good performance car for the money. The BRZ is set out to be a good fun car for the money. This becomes a comparison of how crunchy an apple is to how round an orange is. My biased opinion: The BRZ is better at being fun than the Z is at performing. But the BRZ doesn't perform as well as the Z and the Z isn't as fun as the BRZ (depends entirely on what your definition of fun is). In summary: The apple is very good at being crunchy. But the orange is even better at being round than the apple is at being crunchy. Here's an interesting quote from this thread: Quote:
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Go w 370Z!
Why? I threw a dice: evens BRZ, odds 370Z and sadly it landed on odds. On serious note. It's a waste asking these kind of questions. Just say, you got BRZ instead of 370Z cause EVERYONE here said you should buy this car. When you get the car and drive around and you don't like it. You gonna blame us, cuz we chosen BRZ over 370Z? Test drive and both and if 370Z is worth every penny over BRZ, go for 370Z over BRZ and vice versa. |
It depends on what you want.
Power and Performance = Japanese Mustang (370Z) Pure and Handling = BRZ |
Great quote from one of the BRZ development guys was something along the lines of the owner can add power but only the manufacturer can offer the low-center of gravity platform. I went from a 911 and M3 to a BRZ and I love the BRZ. It's not fast but that's not the point. One day it will be though. I need about a low 13 second quarter mile time in terms of power, I can't wait to get this thing handling on rails though.
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If the 370Z was such a "Japanese Mustang" then why does it stand up so well against another car with similar power to weight ratio that the whole world goes crazy for? Also I didn't know the Mustang was 167 inches in length and 51.8 inches in height, 3275lbs in weight and seats 2? An Asian Mustang is the Gencoupe.
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370z > brz/frs all day
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Good replies....
Do you want a car that was built power first, w/chassis & weight compromises... or a car that was built with chassis, low COG, and low weight focus with power compromises?
Do you like power modding or handling/weight reduction modding with the goal of a fast straight, fast corner turning and balanced ride? |
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I wouldn't buy the 370Z. I did buy the FR-S.
They are not the same price and the Nissan doesn't appeal to me so no point in pretending it was cheaper and prettier. In the real world I won't buy a 370Z. Its fugly like most all Nissans these days. They all have big bums. . |
I test drove a 370Z when it first came out as I was seriously considering one. I had driven my good friends 350z numerous times and loved it. I can't remember being more dissapointed on a test drive, I'm not sure if my expectations were too high but by the end the salesman asked "so? what did you think?" and I honestly had to say "you know what? this car is no fun to drive at all".
As a car designed to give you the most performance for your money it does work very well, lots of grip, lots of power, and I LOVE the looks. The problem is it just doesn't FEEL good IMO. The biggest tragedy is when a sports car has a gearbox that makes you not want to change gears or an engine that sounds like it hates being thrashed. |
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This is funny as the day before I bought my BRZ, I was looking at 2010 370Z's even test drove a NISMO. I usually buy my cars couple years old. Went ahead and rolled the dice and bought the 1st year BRZ, which is why I am here every day. So far happy with my purchase - and this is the first brand new car I ever bought and may be my only.
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The E46 M3 (which is what he was talking about) is a really fun car, but it's not cheap, especially if you feel the need to make it faster. |
370Z was my second choice. For me it came down to price, insurance, and reliability of Subaru.
Test drive both and see which one you prefer. Heads will turn no matter what you pick, hah! |
Hey, here in Australia BRZ I bought is about $40k driveaway and 370Z is near 80k driveaway.:confused0068:
No comparison really, totally different price range which helps to choose between easier. And one with only 2 seats and the other with 2 seats + 2 half seats, this could be irrelevant for some buyers but could be crucial for some other buyers. And most importantly, please test drive both, they are just different animal to each other and might attract to different people. personally, I don't like 370Z's luxury wannabe interior and heavy weight feel. BRZ has got just enough gadgets but no frills and connectivity to driver is like no other cars ever even came close. For me, no brainer really. |
Test drives are your friend (and great source of entertainment too). Don't do your dream ride, but get some crappy intersections in there. 2 things I find very helpful in test drives are to really scrutinize the blind spots and visibility (because you'll be checking them a lot over the life of a car), as well as ride comfort. It's easy to be grinning ear to ear in a brand new car, but taking it over train tracks, potholes, etc. can give you very different feelings from one car to the next.
I still am glad I went with the BRZ. My "top of the line" BRZ (read that as "limited") with a few options, a 7 year warranty, 3 or 4 year maintenance pack, and all fees + taxes is the same price as the base 370z (before tax) with zero options, no warranty or maintenance, destination, licensing, etc. Taking money out of the equation does skew the playing field, but the cars are different enough that price alone won't make it an obvious decision. Chris Harris does a good job of describing the 2 cars here: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLXvxlQR4"]Toyota GT86 / Scion FR-S v Nissan 370Z v Used Porsche Cayman S - CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame] |
Seems like an odd comparison to me - the 370 costs almost 50% more, similarly configured.
$28K 2+2 or $42K two-seater? I don't see the commonality, unless it's "Japanese sporty cars". IME, once you get over about 250HP or so, cars get less and less fun since you can't really use any more than that on the street. |
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The only criticism of the 370 I've seen that was meaningful concerns the brakes. They seem to be great on the street but they're dangerously bad on the track.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lightning-lap Wouldn't matter to me at all, since I'm not a track driver. |
I can't fit in a 370z. I'm 6'2. It's highly impractical and the amount of blindspots is outrageous. Insurance is higher as it's a two seater and the thing is just as practical as a Miata behind the driver's seat.
BRZ wins in ... The driver experience, supreme balance and handling, high compression ratio because the BRZ wants to play in high rpm... I can keep going on. The BRZ is a steal. Best deal in my life. My car decision came down to a BRZ, Focus ST, 370Z, EVO X. I drove all except the BRZ many times and the ST for a few hours on and off the same day. I was going to pull the trigger on a Focus ST (even though the car lacks passion, America is back in the game). A local dealership did a swap and I got a chance to test drive the BRZ on some twisty roads. I was sold when I could keep the right tires on the very edge of the road and keep the car neutral with the throttle. No under and oversteer. Yada yada yada BRZ ftw Quote:
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+1 for this video. It's a great watch.
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Chris says the Z is "a great big plate of not very good food, whereas the Toyota is a smaller plate of much more expertly prepared flavors" and hits on the fine points of why that is using driver's terms. Should be less biased since he probably doesn't frequent BRZ forums and owns a Porsche (the BRZ and Z both strive to be Porsche-like). |
Dude its not about price. Honestly I have had a bunch of sick cars. The BRZ is by far the best car I've had in terms of cost/design/fun factor. This car is a gem, and if anyone disagrees they're just are blinded by some unimportant factor... *END RANT*
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I had a 370Z for three years and traded it in for the BRZ. While I do miss the power the BRZ weighing close to 600 lbs less is far more agile. The 370Z does hold the road nicely (by the way, the BRZ has a nicer ride) but despite a competent suspension you can always feel the extra weight.
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If we talk brand new, the 10k you save on the BRZ will make it much faster than a 370
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Did op ask the same question in the z forum?
If not, your heart already sold to BRZ and you are asking this question to confirm. Come on, this is a BRZ forum, are you expecting some different answer from a whole bunch of owners in high fever of the car? Opinions from sick Owners like us when driving it is not enough and also staying on the forum more than Facebook? Don't analyze, just go with your love. |
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The one thing that none of the competitors brings to the party is light weigh.
The ultra low center of gravity does help the twins, but it is the awareness that you are driving low mass that separates this car from all the others. A Corvette or 370Z may very well go around a corner pulling more G forces than the twins, but you are always aware that there is a lot of mass being manipulated, you are "forcing" the car to do something. With the BRZ it just feels more natural; like the car is enjoying the experience. Someone once said "I can get a pig to go around a corner, but I can't make a pig handle well" |
if you like being able to see out of the back window get a brz. the z is a great car but it had terrible visibility.
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I was looking at a lot of cars before I decided on the BRZ, the 370Z being one of them... I even looked at a STi, but the price wasn't right and I wasn't in love with it...
Of a long long list... it came down to WRX Limited, STi (base), 370Z, or BRZ... I thought I wouldn't want the BRZ since I never sat in it, but I kept looking at photos of it. The WRX/STi had a lot of what I wanted but it came to price, but seating in it felt "aight." The 370Z didn't seem to me to have enough for what the price was. No car is perfect, so I had to figure out what I wanted more out of last cars on my list... would the wait be worth it to even consider the BRZ? Once I sat in a demo, my mind was set. It just felt right to me... and it had a lot of options... and it had a lot of power out of a small motor without being turbo (100hp/liter)... perfect tuner car IMO. Of course, this is all my opinion and what I went through for a few months... and I don't think I have any regrets on this purchase... |
If it'll be cooler?? What are you, 15?
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Drive them and decide for yourself. After I got some seat time in both cars, the choice was easy (for me).
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a 1996 300TT willbe a wecome add to my garage, nothing newer from Nissan
Eyes peeled for a 240 re-release |
Before I heard about the BRZ I was planning on buying a 370. However after getting acquainted with the FT-86 I knew that this was the car for me. The focus on the driver, the light weight, and the overall looks won me over. It also doesn't hurt that the BRZ is cheaper, gets better gas mileage, and has cheaper insurance.
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