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FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 10:02 PM

FA20CLUB Over Pipe Front Pipe & Cold Air Intake Now Ready
 
Just wanted to share this weekends fab work. We managed to get another fresh test car so we wouldn't have to removed the turbo kit from our AT. The Over pipe is constructed of 304L Stainless Steel Mandrel bent pipes as well as the Front Pipe. Fits factory components so no worries there.

These are just some crappy cel phone pics. I get some nice ones that show just how nice they really are.

The intake we went a different route. We wanted to minimize bends in the system and maximize flow. We opted for 2.75" Aluminum Tubes transitioning to 2.5". We are actually able to fit the entire system in 2.75" but you would have to use a rubber liner to protect it from rubbing. Ill be testing its as a complete 2.75" kit as well as with a 2.5" front tube. This should net some really nice consistent gain on our new road race car while on the track. We will be dyno testing Monday for you guys.

Tentative Pricing:

CAI Intake System $245
Over Pipe $250
Front Pipe $225
Over & Front Pipe $500.00 Shipped


http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/...b/IMAG1251.jpg

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DYNO Chart

Green Line: Stock With Overpipe, Front Pipe & CAI Installed Untuned
Blue Line: Overpipe, Front Pipe & CAI Tuned +19-21WHP over untuned results
Red Line: Overpipe, Front Pipe & Stock Air Box Tuned +10WHP over untuned results

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/...b/IMAG1252.jpg

The car lost power without tune adjustments. I have noticed that most customers who install the over & front pipe contact me with datalogs running extremely rich from their current tune and complaining of a loss of power. Ill have all the parts uninstalled tonight and be able to run the car with all stock parts tomorrow and I can almost expect the baseline to improve. Whats amazing is that this combo is almost what im seeing with the Drop-IN header back setups ive tuned locally. They have made 3-4whp more than this car did tonight. Not bad for a minimal investment. Im not done with this tune but the car has a track day this weekend so we have to start installing all the goodies for it. I let the tune conservative since the engine only has 80 miles on it. After this weekends track day ill finish extracting as much as i can from here and still leave it safe for the upcoming season. This car is purpose built for track only events in the southeast so she will be seen @Homestead, Sebring, Daytona, Road Atlanta etc

ML 12-08-2012 10:07 PM

Looks great

JoeBoxer 12-08-2012 10:13 PM

Can't wait for results on the intake

cruzinbill 12-08-2012 10:29 PM

Sooooooooo when you guys gonna do a header!

ATL BRZ 12-08-2012 10:54 PM

Will you be offering the intake painted black?

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 598411)
Will you be offering the intake painted black?

We offer powder coating as well

*KID* 12-08-2012 11:14 PM

These are really nice products, really thinking about getting that over pipe.

ngabdala 12-08-2012 11:15 PM

Hmm.. that intake looks familiar. Anyways, looking forward to seeing the achieved gains with proper tune.

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 598370)
Sooooooooo when you guys gonna do a header!

Header will be ready right before Christmas.

lbroskee 12-08-2012 11:23 PM

so a few questions for you guys

1. catted or test pipe only?
2. mind some close up off car pics to show the welds?
3. maybe I'm misinformed, but doesnt metal tubing defeat the purpose of CAI? like wouldn't the engine bay heat it up therefore defeating the point?

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 598444)
Hmm.. that intake looks familiar. Anyways, looking forward to seeing the achieved gains with proper tune.

Only so many ways to go CAI on this car. Our other idea would have made a longer tube and been an even tighter fit. We just improved on what we saw as being a CAI system with 3 90 degree bends. Didnt make much sense to have that many bends slowing down velocity.

clayrush 12-08-2012 11:24 PM

if u sell me the up pipe, mid pipe and headers at cost ill put up dynos for ya :)

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 598454)
so a few questions for you guys

1. catted or test pipe only?
2. mind some close up off car pics to show the welds?
3. maybe I'm misinformed, but doesnt metal tubing defeat the purpose of CAI? like wouldn't the engine bay heat it up therefore defeating the point?

1. both offered catted version is $70.00 more
2. once we finish up all have some close up pics of the final piece hi-res. fyi welds always look good when you fuse the pipes together so thats baller but not any addition to strength.
3. engine heats composite materials just the same. The one advantage I have with this design is I can always add some sort of thermal barrier coating internally or externally or simple thermal wrap goes a long way.

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayrush (Post 598457)
if u sell me the up pipe, mid pipe and headers at cost ill put up dynos for ya :)

nice offer but we have a AWD dyno here:happy0180:

lbroskee 12-08-2012 11:33 PM

awesome. i may be over there by new years then (5 mile drive, no shipping pickup FTW lol)

clayrush 12-08-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 598466)
nice offer but we have a AWD dyno here:happy0180:

awwww i think i read once that you guys would rater show independent dynos. :D

I am also trying to figure out why there is such a price difference between different companies test pipes and up pipes.

Ranatsu 12-08-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayrush (Post 598472)
awwww i think i read once that you guys would rater show independent dynos. :D

I am also trying to figure out why there is such a price difference between different companies test pipes and up pipes.

capitalism.

clayrush 12-08-2012 11:45 PM

that's what i have been thinking.

*KID* 12-08-2012 11:46 PM

I like the fact that the intake is straight as possible and the longer the better, I like it.

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *KID* (Post 598484)
I like the fact that the intake is straight as possible and the longer the better, I like it.

:thumbup:

FA20Club.com 12-08-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayrush (Post 598483)
that's what i have been thinking.

Well larger companies have to charge more to cover their operating costs & overhead. Its the price of doing business on a larger scale.

*KID* 12-09-2012 12:04 AM

Good thinking

clayrush 12-09-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 598495)
Well larger companies have to charge more to cover their operating costs & overhead. Its the price of doing business on a larger scale.

i was just thinking about motiv and perrin.

FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 12:48 AM

now you got another option.....

number1Tango 12-09-2012 04:45 AM

nice pieces, im digging the prices as well.

normanb21 12-09-2012 05:19 AM

Looking forward to dyno results!!

RD1428 12-09-2012 06:57 AM

if dynos, pics, and videos look and sound good, count me in bortha, cant beat those prices

cruzinbill 12-09-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 598449)
Header will be ready right before Christmas.


any estimated price thus far?

lbroskee 12-09-2012 09:22 AM

^and will it be catted to satisfy my sensors?

FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbroskee (Post 598788)
^and will it be catted to satisfy my sensors?

you can order it in either version or get a reflash from us and disable the secondary....

FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzinbill (Post 598777)
any estimated price thus far?

none just yet

FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 09:34 AM

Dyno tomorrow hopefully time permitting....

Vino 12-09-2012 10:01 AM

:party0030:
Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 598797)
Dyno tomorrow hopefully time permitting....

:confused0068:


:popcorn:

ngabdala 12-09-2012 11:33 AM

Will disabling the secondary be detectable by emissions OBD II?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 598795)
you can order it in either version or get a reflash from us and disable the secondary....


FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 598913)
Will disabling the secondary be detectable by emissions OBD II?

if you have ecutek cable you should always flash back to stock before going in for dealer service. then your diagnostic settings will be renabled. and it takes more than 1 drive session for the cell to move in pending

FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 11:55 AM

Newer images with weld pics uploaded on 1st page

mike2100 12-09-2012 11:56 AM

So have you tested the intake yet or is that pending?

FA20Club.com 12-09-2012 12:00 PM

I already stated dyno testing is tomorrow....

Craig 12-09-2012 12:40 PM

Hyped to see the numbers on this. You have earned my business with that midpipe though, can't beat that price!!

UncleFester 12-10-2012 10:28 AM

I'm interested in the intake. I'm still looking for one to finish my STX build.

When you post dynos, could you do a stock vs. intake installed vs. ecutek tune & intake installed? I'm curious what power it makes with a tune.


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