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VADER 12-06-2012 07:16 PM

Best Coilovers?
 
Well I have an automatic and I DD it as it is my only car anyways. I bring it to car shows/meets. I don't plan on tracking it and making it a dyno monster because 1. automatic, 2. full-time student, 3. full-time employee. Anyways, it will mostly be a DD Show Car. My next mod will be going into coilovers or shocks/springs and I need advice according to what I will be using my car for. HELP!

To clarify.. I want coilovers or shocks/springs for DD, smoothness, and that flush look. I want to lower my car around 2-2.5" and slap 17" or 18" wheels on it. I'm going for the flush look. Money isn't too much of a factor, as am saving up for it and will also have my tax income.

wparsons 12-06-2012 07:19 PM

Why coilovers? Just to get it slammed?

VADER 12-06-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 594904)
Why coilovers? Just to get it slammed?

Pretty much. And I'm looking for quality of ride because it will be my DD. MIGHT supercharge it with a TRD SC if they come out with one.. MAYBE

Hanakuso 12-06-2012 07:27 PM

It sounds like lowering springs would be best for you. Since it seems you care mostly about looks I would think it's the best for you. If I had to choose I would say KW V3 but those are very pricey for someone on a budget.

Quality and ride seem important as well and I would say the RCE is getting good reviews.

SubieNate 12-06-2012 07:28 PM

The fact that you put KW's and Ksports into the same list tells me you're not really ready for coilovers.

VADER 12-06-2012 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 594917)
It sounds like lowering springs would be best for you. Since it seems you care mostly about looks I would think it's the best for you. If I had to choose I would say KW V3 but those are very pricey for someone on a budget

I don't want to sacrifice quality of ride though and I don't want something that down the road will break. I want high quality. And I'm saving up plus I'm getting around $4k on tax income. Looking to get wheels, rubbers, and coilovers.

VADER 12-06-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SubieNate (Post 594918)
The fact that you put KW's and Ksports into the same list tells me you're not really ready for coilovers.

I put that list together based on what I've seen people buying so far.

Hanakuso 12-06-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER (Post 594922)
I don't want to sacrifice quality of ride though and I don't want something that down the road will break. I want high quality. And I'm saving up plus I'm getting around $4k on tax income. Looking to get wheels, rubbers, and coilovers.

When you say quality i'm guessing you want to improve the actual dampening and want a soft enough ride for DD, while lowering your car. I would wait for the Eibach Pro Street S coilovers.

Just from what I heard from others experiences, you could probably knock off the KSport and Megan from your list. I'd be skeptical if those were actually upgrades from our stock showa shocks

Captain Insano 12-06-2012 07:38 PM

These threads typically get the first question asked to quantify - what are the requirements for your car? You have answered, "I want show car slammed look with as good of ride quality as possible". With that in mind, the title of your thread will be misleading for people dropping by to vote, but not reading thread as they will just rate the coilovers they perceive as overall "best". In many cases "best" will mean different things to different people (best ride quality, best tracking, best flexibility (both off and on track), best from an ease of adjustment perspective, etc, etc...). So you might want to retitle thread "Best coilovers for show and ride quality".

Just a thought. Carry on.

jamal 12-06-2012 07:44 PM

Define "best"

best for a cheap coilover and slamming the car?
best for motorsports?
best for all around driving and comfort?

The answer to all of those questions is different.

But it sounds like you just want it to be low so get whatever. At the ~$1000 price point it's all the same shit anyway.

CSG Mike 12-06-2012 08:04 PM

Tein SRC.

It's also by far the most expensive available from the included brands, but you get what you pay for.

We're doing some additional testing this weekend at the track; we're taking 4 additional sets of springs to see what is the best setup for both handling at the tracks, while maintaining ride quality for street duty.

EarlQHan 12-06-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jamal (Post 594955)
Define "best"

best for a cheap coilover and slamming the car?
best for motorsports?
best for all around driving and comfort?

The answer to all of those questions is different.

But it sounds like you just want it to be low so get whatever. At the ~$1000 price point it's all the same shit anyway.

mostly agree but don't forget longevity, serviceability, customer service. there are a few intangibles when buying products most people don't factor.

for the OP: in terms of the best true damper, you don't even have them listed on the poll.

VADER 12-06-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 594931)
When you say quality i'm guessing you want to improve the actual dampening and want a soft enough ride for DD, while lowering your car. I would wait for the Eibach Pro Street S coilovers.

Just from what I heard from others experiences, you could probably knock off the KSport and Megan from your list. I'd be skeptical if those were actually upgrades from our stock showa shocks

When are the Eibach Pro Street S coilovers coming out?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal (Post 594955)
Define "best"

best for a cheap coilover and slamming the car?
best for motorsports?
best for all around driving and comfort?

The answer to all of those questions is different.

But it sounds like you just want it to be low so get whatever. At the ~$1000 price point it's all the same shit anyway.

Well as I have said above, Best for DD and ride quality. Not looking for anything cheap and not trying to cut corners.

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 595006)
Tein SRC.

It's also by far the most expensive available from the included brands, but you get what you pay for.

We're doing some additional testing this weekend at the track; we're taking 4 additional sets of springs to see what is the best setup for both handling at the tracks, while maintaining ride quality for street duty.

Let me know how it goes! :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarlQHan (Post 595013)
mostly agree but don't forget longevity, serviceability, customer service. there are a few intangibles when buying products most people don't factor.

for the OP: in terms of the best true damper, you don't even have them listed on the poll.

Sorry, just listed what I've seen so far. I could use some education on Coilovers since this is the first car I've ever bothered to mod haha

ModBargains.com 12-06-2012 08:16 PM

Once you say DD for daily driver, I immediately say KW. I've had KW V2's on my vehicle for the last year, just got a new car, and looking to get KW's just after 300 miles on my brand new car, because I know KW will be comfortable for the street, but good enough for performance when I want to ramp it up.

I think that's probably why I get more KW orders than anything else :)

VADER 12-06-2012 08:47 PM

I haven't done any performance mods as of yet. So performance being a factor in this decision right now, isn't really a concern

GTB/ZR-1 12-06-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER (Post 595095)
So performance being a factor in this decision right now, isn't really a concern

Well my friend--gonna save you some $$$.

You don't need the C/O setup. A good, quality set of springs that give you just the right stance & ride quality will get the job done for you. The stock dampers (shocks) are plenty good.

I'm kind of old school in that I'd only recommend something as extensive as (real quality) coilovers, is if you use the car regularly in competition, DEs etc--and are fairly advanced in your skilz... lol

Besides: the best quality C/O setups are not listed here. ;)

RRnold 12-06-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER (Post 594899)
Well I have an automatic and I DD it as it is my only car anyways. I bring it to car shows/meets. I don't plan on tracking it and making it a dyno monster because 1. automatic, 2. full-time student, 3. full-time employee, 4. no funds. Anyways, it will mostly be a DD Show Car. My next mod will be going into coilovers and I need advice according to what I will be using my car for. HELP!

To clarify.. I want coilovers for DD and quality of ride. I want to lower my car around 2-2.5" and slap 17" or 18" wheels on it. I'm going for the flush look. Money isn't too much of a factor, as am saving up for it and will also have my tax income.

Based on what you mentioend, I say Stance w/Swift springs. :thumbsup:

JoeBoxer 12-06-2012 09:19 PM

Eibach Pro street
Kw
Cusco street spec
Ground control street system

Anything that reuses the stock upper mounts will most likely have the best ride. I'm going GC street they offer everything I want and are 1350 so very fairly priced.

Notice a key word in my list??

FreshFRS 12-06-2012 10:56 PM

KW V3 is great.

gmookher 12-06-2012 11:00 PM

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I did not vote

Noteworthy camber plates, matched coils, stupid beefy. Have a peek-->

You left out Ground Control? Mine are in a UPS box en route to my front door! HO HO HO

VADER 12-06-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 595350)
I did not vote

Noteworthy camber plates, matched coils, stupid beefy. Have a peek-->

You left out Ground Control? Mine are in a UPS box en route to my front door! HO HO HO

Those coilovers are sexy ahha

JoeBoxer 12-06-2012 11:10 PM

That setup is a little overkill for your needs but their street or touring systems would be great. 1350 for the street kit is an insane value in my opinion that's why I'm getting it :)

track_warrior 12-06-2012 11:12 PM

Ohlins FTW. As soon as they release them my V3'S will be up for sale. KW makes an awesome coilover though.

FreshFRS 12-06-2012 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pcasso87 (Post 595375)
Ohlins FTW. As soon as they release them my V3'S will be up for sale. KW makes an awesome coilover though.

I'm waiting for the Ohlins! :drool: stock suspension till then to feel the car out. if i get it before the coils come out! :mad0260:

WolfsFang 12-06-2012 11:26 PM

BC BR are your best bet if you want the slammed look. They are praised on STi's and WRX's. They do last awhile and are only 1k.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 12-06-2012 11:41 PM

I'm very happy with my kw's

jamal 12-07-2012 12:32 AM

The responses in this thread, and every single other one like it on every other forum, are hilarious. Everyone just lists the thing they like.

JoeBoxer 12-07-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal (Post 595523)
The responses in this thread, and every single other one like it on every other forum, are hilarious. Everyone just lists the thing they like.

I hear where you are coming from but they aren't going to recommend what they don't like, I think the stance and BC recommendations are hilarious though when he mentions ride quality being the number 1 priority.

WolfsFang 12-07-2012 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 595532)
I hear where you are coming from but they aren't going to recommend what they don't like, I think the stance and BC recommendations are hilarious though when he mentions ride quality being the number 1 priority.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...2012124646.jpg

No really if he wants good ride quality then he should look at spring/shocks.

RYU 12-07-2012 12:57 AM

How can you have a "best of" coilovers list w/o JRZs!!!

Koni and Bilsteins will be coming with their offerings soon.

jamal 12-07-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 595549)
No really if he wants good ride quality then he should look at spring/shocks.

And posts like this might even be worse.

If you want good ride quality don't get cheap coilovers. The good stuff can ride as well as stock even with stiffer linear rate springs. It's all about having a good damper, appropriate spring rates for the tires and use, and enough travel to stay off the bumpstops.

Anyway, the short answer is that you should just get the KWs and not slam it.

coyot 12-07-2012 04:34 AM

trd

nzer 12-07-2012 04:52 AM

No idea about ride quality but for pretty, I like yellow... :wub:

http://iforce.co.nz/i/mfulp0ly.ked.jpg
http://iforce.co.nz/i/zd3urexh.3hw.jpg

Captain Snooze 12-07-2012 06:32 AM

I am suggesting that 2.5" drop and "quality ride" are mutually exclusive.

ill86 12-07-2012 07:00 AM

Keep in mind all coilovers will need servicing. The words Budget and Coilovers don't work well long term or ride quality.. Also consider where you will have them rebuilt and serviced. Locally? In the USA?

There are a lot of quality brands not on the list. Some that are received very little votes. This is a reflection of the forum experience, not coil over quality.

Do yourself a financial favor and buy springs and shocks until you can appreciate and utilize a c/o setup.

Peace

VADER 12-07-2012 08:51 AM

Well, I'm receiving a lot of great feedback and I appreciate everyone's input! I'm looking into lowering springs now, I hear Swift has great springs but they have yet to come out with a final product!

Dave-ROR 12-07-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfsFang (Post 595549)

No really if he wants good ride quality then he should look at spring/shocks.

Why in the world would you say that?

ill86 12-07-2012 09:03 AM

You can easily ruin a good thing by lowering it 2-2.5". It does not need to be that low to handle well and look better (subjective).

A simple .75 - 1" drop is plenty. Slamming it will not create good quality anything except a slammed look. Just my professional opinion, do what makes you happy.

ill86 12-07-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 595873)
Why in the world would you say that?

The op states he has no funds. Cheap c/o will ride like crap because of spring rate and valving 99% of the time. But so will a crap spring over a strut. Lol.

You bring up a valid argument.

Dave-ROR 12-07-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill86 (Post 595881)
Because the op states he has no funds. Cheap c/o will ride like crap because of spring rate and valving 99% of the time.

No disagreement there. The guy I was replying to was trying to say no coil overs would provide good ride quality. The OP is willing to pay for V3s and they are great street threaded body coil overs.


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