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maj75 12-06-2012 04:41 PM

Enkei 18x9.5 +38 Front and Rear Pictures
 
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I installed Enkei 18x9.5 +38 after seeing several pictures on cars on this forum showing good fitment. My car has Eibach Sportline springs, the lowest of the Eibach springs. The fit at the rear is perfect:

Boost_Junkie 12-06-2012 04:41 PM

side shot?

maj75 12-06-2012 04:45 PM

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empower-auto 12-06-2012 04:46 PM

I fail to see the problem

maj75 12-06-2012 04:54 PM

The wheel lip is about 1 inch outside the body line and 1.25 inches from the wheel well lip. The wheel well lip is not directly below(or parallel) to the body line of the fender.

I wish I knew this before I got these wheels. While this look might work for some people, it does not work for me. I will be ordering the 18x8 wheels for the front.

Tire fitment is 245/35/18 F, 255/35/18 R Ventus V12. The front would have been even worse with the 255/35 fitment that is claimed to work.

Anybody want 2 18x9.5 gold Enkei wheels :bonk:

empower-auto 12-06-2012 04:57 PM

1 degree of camber will get you 9mm of clearance.

You have .. nearly positive camber?

*KID* 12-06-2012 05:03 PM

NICE PICS

Get some camber plates on there or camber bolts

empower-auto 12-06-2012 05:04 PM

I did 3 barrel-rolls while scrolling through the photos

maj75 12-06-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 594516)
1 degree of camber will get you 9mm of clearance.

You have .. nearly positive camber?

The wheels were aligned to factory specs. I realize you can tuck the wheels with more camber, but I like the way the car handles with the factory specs. While you can tuck the top of the wheel in a little, you will cause the bottom of the wheel to protrude more. You will get some nice rooster tails off you front tires in the wet:thumbsup:

I can't get more than one picture to attach...

JoeBoxer 12-06-2012 05:06 PM

Get some camber bolts and an alignment before you do anything else. It looks too good to change it.

empower-auto 12-06-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by maj75 (Post 594536)
The wheels were aligned to factory specs. I realize you can tuck the wheels with more camber, but I like the way the car handles with the factory specs. While you can tuck the top of the wheel in a little, you will cause the bottom of the wheel to protrude more. You will get some nice rooster tails off you front tires in the wet:thumbsup:

I can't get more than one picture to attach...

With factory specs the car is actually handling well under it's potential. The front camber is rather weak. Unless you are an unskilled driver that is pushing the car enough to require that bit of safety under-steer .. then you could probably benefit from 1.5 degrees being pulled in the front. Your tires won't complain and the car should be very well mannered.

maj75 12-06-2012 05:12 PM

You mean mis-aligned?;)

I'm thinking that the 18x8 +45 should be flush, like the rear, without having to mess up the alignment with a lot of camber.

maj75 12-06-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 594545)
With factory specs the car is actually handling well under it's potential. The front camber is rather weak. Unless you are an unskilled driver that is pushing the car enough to require that bit of safety under-steer .. then you could probably benefit from 1.5 degrees being pulled in the front. Your tires won't complain and the car should be very well mannered.

IIRC the issue with this car is not too much "safety under-steer". It is the opposite, the tail can come out at almost any speed. I do have more camber in the rear, because it can't be adjusted out after the spring install. Hopefully the rear camber will make the car neutral.

I've already order the 18x8 wheels. I will post up the difference when I get one of them mounted, for a side to side comparison!

JoeBoxer 12-06-2012 05:27 PM

At least get +35 front
I was looking at some Gram Lights in the same fitment but got the 8.5's instead, too good of deal to pass up.

2point0 12-06-2012 05:36 PM

If you like the way the car handles with 0 camber, trust me you'll like it MORE with a little negative. It went from taking corners well to getting sucked into corners like it's being pulled. The difference is insane, it's been a couple of weeks and it still makes me grin.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the lip sticking that far out either. I'm also not a fan of wheels that are wider than necessary for the tire. My wheels are 9" wide, but +28mm offset and they stick out too much for my tastes. Yours stick out 3.65mm farther than mine, with 0 camber. I changed to a lower eccentric bolt and now it looks much better, but still not how I want it (I never planned for these wheels to be permanent anyway).

You'll notice a lot of people are going staggered: 8.5" front and 9.5" rear. The few I've seen with 9.5" in front are often lower offset than this and are using camber bolts or something to that effect. TIC has 9.5 +30 with 255s all around and somehow it looks great. They do have camber bolts/plates, though.

I believe this car has a wider front track also. So that combined with a narrower fender means that "square" wheel setups aren't going to look the same front/back. If you swapped to 8.5s all around, the front would be perfect and you'd need spacers in back to get that same flushness.

Please rotate pics before uploading. That's just good form.

2point0 12-06-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maj75 (Post 594553)
You mean mis-aligned?;)

I'm thinking that the 18x8 +45 should be flush, like the rear, without having to mess up the alignment with a lot of camber.

I recently bought my exhaust from a guy with these wheels in 17x8 +45 (wrapped in 245 RS-3s) and they are still pretty well tucked into the fender. Not nearly so much as stock, but it's certainly not flush with the edge, if that's the look you're going for. I don't know what all the size are for RPF1s, but I think 8.5" might be more what you're looking for.

empower-auto 12-06-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maj75 (Post 594571)
IIRC the issue with this car is not too much "safety under-steer". It is the opposite, the tail can come out at almost any speed. I do have more camber in the rear, because it can't be adjusted out after the spring install. Hopefully the rear camber will make the car neutral.

I've already order the 18x8 wheels. I will post up the difference when I get one of them mounted, for a side to side comparison!

You must be kidding. I've never had the rear come out unless I forced it.

jkonquer 12-06-2012 05:52 PM

i think 9" are perfect for front. without going too much camber.

JoeBoxer 12-06-2012 06:10 PM

the pictures were correct on my phone, iphone must have autocorrected??

Nardi330 12-06-2012 06:13 PM

I'm on the opposite. My 9.5+38 rear sticks out a little like your front. I don't understand why I seem to be the only one..... (Lowered on kw v3 with cusco lower arm)

I'm running 8.5+38 at the front and its flush with -0.75 camber.

dale.m 12-06-2012 06:56 PM

You must be in Australia! All your pictures are upside down!

maj75 12-06-2012 07:49 PM

Sorry, I did this on my I Pad and it looks right to me. Looks right on my phone too.

Don't know how to fix this...

wparsons 12-06-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by empower-auto (Post 594516)
1 degree of camber will get you 9mm of clearance.

You have .. nearly positive camber?


By my rough math you'll only get ~7mm from 1* of camber, but even if you do get 9mm from a single degree you would need over 3.5* to get enough clearance for 1.25" (~32mm).

shu5892001 12-06-2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by maj75 (Post 594491)
The problem is at the front:


Any rubbing problems with this setup?

WolfsFang 12-07-2012 12:20 AM

roll/pull the fender!

stanm 12-07-2012 12:22 AM

Looks perfect IMO but to each their own!

ngabdala 12-07-2012 12:25 AM

I do

Quote:

Originally Posted by maj75 (Post 594508)
Anybody want 2 18x9.5 gold Enkei wheels :bonk:


JoeBoxer 12-07-2012 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngabdala (Post 595411)
I do

Yes you do :) get a pair of 17x9's for the front and be the guinea pig.

ngabdala 12-07-2012 12:34 AM

Hell no. I'm not going staggered. How am I gonna rotate the wheels lol :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 595420)
Yes you do :) get a pair of 17x9's for the front and be the guinea pig.


JoeBoxer 12-07-2012 12:36 AM

Rotating is overrated lol
I hope you get them though it will look good on gold.

Metabrz 12-07-2012 01:58 AM

Same set uphttp://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o...E8F968C57D.jpg

jdzumwalt 12-07-2012 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maj75 (Post 594491)
The problem is at the front:

No the problem is, the car is upside down.

maj75 12-10-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shu5892001 (Post 595317)
Any rubbing problems with this setup?

No rubbing problems yet. Have hit bump stops on rear on a big pothole and no rubbing.


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