Frostyman's E-85 tune saga
 

I'm making this post in an effort to not threadjack the FA20Club tune thread.

Recently I purchased an FA20Club E-85 tune from FT86speedfactory, and I have to say that as a company, if they sold clothes and food too, I'd never shop anywhere else. Fast response time, quick shipping, and they even helped me out with a mistake I made. Really, best company ever. I digress.

My tune arrived and after numerous technical issues with the crappy laptop I was using, I finally got the software installed. That's when I realized at 9:45 PM on a Friday night, that I never got a tune ROM. GAH! I PM'd FA20Club here on the forums, and got a response within 5 minutes. No joke, 5 minutes. He set me up via email, and after some back and forth with updates and other things I failed to accomplish, I was ready to flash the car.

God, I felt like a retard with all of the mistakes I made with my setup. lol.

Next day I got some logs to him, and got a new tune file. Then a CEL for being too lean. Again a new file, this time no CEL. So, I've been running the same file since Saturday, or Sunday, I'm not sure which day I got the last tune from him.

Today, (Wednesday) I dropped my car off before work at a local tuner and had them dyno it for me. Unfortunately, the dyno plot was worse than stock, and the awesome CEL popped on again. This time I'm running rich. REALLY rich. So rich that it's not showing up on the graph, because the air-fuel-ratio is too low, rich.

I've emailed FA20Club again, and again I have a new file in my mailbox. I will flash and log this evening, and this thread will be updated again as needed.

Thanks for reading,
Alan.

Here's the offending dyno sheet.
http://i.imgur.com/x4Ivp.jpg

Sorry to hear that Alan i have faith you will be fixed up tonight. Never seen any of them running that rich i am sure it was probably a typo/fat finger and it will be good to go. Keep us updated and if you need any help just PM me too.

I tell you what, man. Even though my tune is acting up, I'm ready to buy the 93stg2 from them still, that's how much they have earned my business. I hear that a second tune is on sale till end of December too, so I can go back to normal pump gas on the cheap.

You will like being able to have both without reflashing, it's really convienent. Have him put the e85 on map 4 and stage 2 93 and it's really nice. I'm going back to 93 as temps drop here and keeping the e85 for special occasions.

i got the 93stage2 and i love it. FA20club is amazing to work with. his customer service combined with is "i will get it right" attitude sets him above the rest.

i'd love to take a ride in your car to get a feel for the E85.

Thanks! :)

FA20Club kills it on the replies and status updates as well. :) No doubt they will have you rocking shortly.

I'll take you for a spin on saturday, Mr. 3 inches.

deal!

Get a retune immediately. Try NOT to drive it. If you are really running that rich, you'll risk "washing" your cylinder walls and screwing your rings.

I didnt think the custom maps option was fully implemented yet?

Absolutely are implemented.


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I have gotten it reflashed, and the difference was noticeable. I took about 40 minutes worth of logs to send him too. Gotta get this mofo right before the scion meet on saturday!

fa20club is the best. I stand by them full 100%.

Do you know anyone with a portable wideband?

no. I'm assuming you are thinking of real-time transmitting to him?

Ooooo! Must... Resist... Purchase... Impulse!!!

I already sent him an update about 30 mins after he emailed me but he sent his car to the dyno with a friend or someone else so i wasnt aware they were there. The new method im using requires all the E85 tuned cars to all be tuned again from a conservative starting point since now were arent using separate tunes for e85 and pump gas. Ecutek allows us to control the fuel system in a more effective manner now so matching with on fuel only conditions is much more simplified. Assuming I start on the rich side using logs is the only manner I have to dial in your tune for you car. I checked all our email correspondences and out of all of them you sent me only one set of logs which i have now supplied you with one update. I sent you that update the same time you dyno'd and today is the 8th and im waiting on a updated set of logs from you. Im always willing to work with all my customers as long as they are able to provide me c=viable information to work from. I honestly find it hard pressed that i knowingly ignored any of your emails.

Your factory wideband is fine for me to make changes but you have to remember just like i told you, it reads only 12.17:1 AFR at its lowest point so anything below that i have no idea what the afr is. So the best option is to do the logs what we discussed and email them to me. Im sure i can get you sorted in out in about 2-3 revising which would literally take you less than a day to record. I would rather trim fuel slowly than swing you to the lean side and hurt your motor doing so.

Ill definitely get you sorted out I consider you guys like an extended family instead of a bad house guest ;)

Factory O2 is a true wideband? Will the stock ECU work with other wideband sensors that can read down lower?

I got the pleasure of taking a ride in @Frostyman's car yesterday. I have @FA20club's 93 octane tune and the difference is crazy what E85 can do to these cars.

I was amazed the first time myself. And his car isnt dialed in yet wait till its all said and done.

Yeah, I need to stop being so busy, and so lazy when i'm not being busy.

I know this feeling :lol: