Forced Induction Choices
 

Hey guys, I am interested to see what everyone's choice of forced induction is for this car. I'd like to see what people thought was good/bad about the kits out there and what really made you lean towards one kit over another.

I think this will be beneficial for people as reference to help them see what kits are doing right and help them with their purchases.

So I guess something like this:

Kit Choice:
Reason Why:
Use of Car:
Ultimate Goals for Car:

well from the other threads you probably have seen what i'm planning.

Kit: Custom Rotrex or TVS Supercharger system.

Reasons: Throttle response FTW, Midrange power (TVS)

Use: Canyon carving, Auto-X, Road racing

Goals: 300-350whp on pump gas. 250+ tq (High performance daily driver.)

I'm still undecided, JDL turbo and Litchfield supercharger are the newest that have my attention. Innovate is still an option just waiting on numbers.

Hoping for 275 whp, car is my daily but hopefully will see some track use next year.

IMO it's a little early for something like this considering 95% of the kits are still in R&D/Testing. Hard to define reasoning for "choosing" a certain kit when none are actually available to use at the moment. To my knowledge AVO is the closest one, their stage one kit is finalized and willl be shipping out in January.

But to answer your request,

Kit Choice: AVO TurboWorld, likely Stage 2

Reason Why: Good quality build, tons of R&D, RELIABILITY, meets the hp gains i want.. Aprox +80-100whp compared to stock

Use of Car: Daily Driver

Ultimate Goals for Car: Have a little fun Drifting here and there, in a safe manner, i.e official events, private property ect.

Kit Choice: Vortech SC
Reason Why: USA made/support, upgrade path to bigger pulley or bigger blower is very easy, they are known for safety testing up the wazoo like Perrin before product release. I do not like the methods other vendors use which lack scripted test procedures.
Use of Car: Track 75-90%
Ultimate Goals for Car:at stage 2 I expect 330 to 350 HP trackable

After reading this thread I'm wondering whether I jumped the gun on the downpayment for the AVO Turbo. I've never turbo'd or supercharged a vehicle before.

I hear SC doesn't affect throttle responsiveness but I've heard the size turbo AVO uses shouldn't affect the throttle.

Can anyone chime in? @gmookher I trust your knowledge on this.

I know Paul at AVO will refund the deposit if I decided to switch to another kit.

Bro, keep calm and carry on )

We're in the same boat now )

AVO kit is the best option. Dunworry

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Can't go wrong with the AVO, you should be fine.

Kit Choice: AVO

Reason Why: Offers most if not all what I am looking for this car. Reliability, Thousands of miles through different peaks and valleys, AVO reputation for OEM+ kits doing 200K miles, UEL header, like the turbo location, love the scavenge pump design, love the OEM look, etc etc.

Use of Car: Was DD when I chose AVO but since, has become weekend car.


Ultimate Goals for Car: Making it as much fun as possible while keeping reliability, not interested in opening up the motor to do any internal upgrades, not looking for more than 300-320 HP on future fuel upgrades.


Edit: GREAT thread by the way, hope everyone can stay on topic and just answer your questions and in your format... (One can only dream!)

Edit2: Agree with @nix 100% You have to be prepared to face the consequences of your actions. Thus, I know I will void the warranty the day I boost it and will be on my own if the motor breaks. There is NOTHING 100% safe. Any kit can break any engine. It is just a matter of percentages. How much or how less likely is X or Y modification of breaking your engine?

I have had a few different engine builders and mechanics express concern to me about the rods holding up over the long term even on low boost and e85.

I worry about people thinking ___'s kit is safe, then a year or 2 later they have broken warranty on a heavily financed car and can't afford a rebuild.

Bottom line - don't go FI unless you know you can afford the consequences!

<- An AVO Customer.

AVO period. bye

This SC kills torque to HP ratio. Torque is all I care about and this already SUCKS at it!

We already have a million topics of back and forth bullcrap, lets keep this thread simple, on topic and respect other people's choices.

Accelerated Performance,.stays true to the theme of this car and is mounted low for low cg,...stays true to the mounting location of Subaru engines with the exception of intercooler location,... Turbo is located down and away and will not contribute as much to engine bay heat, case cooling scoop (which I plan on fabricating) easier to adapt from slip stream underneath car,..stage 1 comes with the piping of stage 2, no fuss to upgrade, bolt on the higher boost turbo tune and go.....downsides ...... because of its location needs a strong scavenge return oil pump,....not liking where the intake is,...may reroute for colder air or go with a vented/ram air type carbon hood.
Making a track monster car/weekend car/drive to work occasionally,...Going with forged internals Arias lower compression pistons and Pauter rods, race bearings for crank.

the kid is asking for the good and the bad, so you'll hear honesty coming from me ALL DAY LONG.
All these kits are already doing one "good" thing which is adding power so by pointing out the "bad" stuff you can be more helpful.

I will point out EVERY single bad thing about any kit, so you sit down and enjoy.

1 pun point for you :)

Troll on, tough net guy :bellyroll:

Damn dude who lit your tampon string? Try to stay productive in this thread please

Having already SC my other car with a Rotrex , i wouldnt consider anything else.

N/A feeling / drive / predicatability / no runaway boost issue / no heat issues / no oil plumbing to the engine

and the best thing its like a N/A on steroids

so does anyone actually have a turbo or a supercharger on their car yet?

Hopefully on topic. The summers where I live can be 120 degree F. I use the car as a DD. Concerning heat issues ...... turbo (AVO) or supercharger?

Yes, there are topics with car build threads of cars already TC.

That is a different thread called supercharger or turbocharger. This thread is for people who already made their choice to share why :thumbup:

Thank you. I'm headed there now.

Kit Choice: AVO
Reason Why: reliable product from a company with a great reputation
Use of Car: DD
Ultimate Goals for Car: a reliable 230-240whp and 200wtq.

Figure out a design yet? i'm working on an idea when its drawn out i'd like to get you opinion on it.

alot of people are getting AVO for the main reason being reliability.. maybe this has already been covered in the thread but no one actually HAS the kit yet so how could we know that they are the most reliable option? im still on the fence for my FI needs so i'd like to know the reason. this just seems like predicting the future.

Because they have provided the most data via their testing and R&D. They have been monitoring every aspect of this car on extensive 1k+ mile roadtrips and in every climate/altitude you can think of. They also have been doing this for 40 years. As far as reliability is concerned it doesn't seem like much of a contest. We will see though.

it'd be a death sentence if they claimed reliability and had people reporting blown parts so they'd probably not make such claims if they werent validated in some way so thats a good sign. the 40 years in the biz though seems like the clincher. you dont spend half a century doing something wrong haha (except dating) thanks man

haha no problem, im sure every company will be reliable enough, its when people start doing their own thing and making big power that they will see incidents start occurring.

People blame the company for not being reliable yet they don't follow the instructions or they raise the boost an extra 5 psi and they wonder why their engine blew or clutch got destroyed.

The testing is way more extensive at AVO Japan too

[QUOTE=Sportsguy83;588157]Yes, there are topics with car build threads of cars already TC.



I meant people other than performance shop affiliate's.

In that case the member "Silverdub" has made his own custom Turbo build, http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16487

And also the member "Roadstercycle" has made his own,

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...ighlight=turbo

thanks great find:thumbsup:

You're right to think that there's a risk involved with a first gen motor and new turbo kit. I'm banking on AVO's track record, my installers reputation and experience (@drift-office) and the build quality of the brz/frs (while being mindful of the CEL issue). But regardless of all those factors, I'd better be ready to fork over some cash in the event my engine blows up.

Kit Choice: Treadstone Performance
Reason Why: Free (disclaimer, they're using my car for R&D, however, I really like the BW turbo they're using); they are taking their time to ensure it's done right & reliable
Use of Car: DD
Ultimate Goals for Car: a reliable ~300whp