cold weather equals non operational windows
 

So we had our first really cold wet day here in Pa. Now my windows are non op. The driver side is going down auto but not up. Passenger is dead, does t move at all.

Is there ice preventing it from moving or is it just not responding?

Theres a tread about this you gotta hold the buttons down to reset

Yeah I tried to reset to no avail.
Its at the dealership now.

verdict?

It threw a code was the answer I got. No bill as its under warranty is what I was told.
Not sure what exactly they did but they had it for 4 hours.

jeez, 4 hours? quick tip with the reset as i didn't realize it at first. door needs to be closed before you try it.

also was your name Shit Luck before or after this happened lol?

They said the window threw a code?? Never heard of that.

Yeah.... A switch failure code. Never heard of it before either. I was a tech for awhile and it was new to me too.
No snow this morning and windows are non operational again.
Starting to think there is a design flaw.

anyone also notice that the windows don't move down when opening the door?

I haven't tried to see if the windows are operational, otherwise, today. I do know that the windows were iced over after that little bit of snow we got two days ago and I heard the window try to open the small amount. Not sure if that messed anything up. I'll try in an hour or so when I go out for lunch.

That happend to me once to and afterwards the AUTO up down stopped working. I did a reset and it worked fine again.

Dealership wants the car for a few days, yet says my issue does t warrant a loaner car. wtf?
Anyway I tried doing a reset a few times on my own today and I am stuck with windows that are down and won't return up now.
:thumbdown:

OK, yeah now that it's dark I was able to see the switches were blinking. Reset it and they work fine now. :thumbsup:

I think I fixed my issue....
I moved a bunch of shit out of my garage to make room for the car.

Hmmm, interesting; the reset method worked twice for me when my windows were "frozen".

Shit Luck
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Canbus controlled.

I need to get a diagnostic kit. I could fix all these issues on my vw myself with my vag-com.

something has to be shorting out the switch if it happened twice. where does it draw power from, anyone know? any blown fuses?

unless the window gets frozen from a bad window gasket/seal, and burns out something somehow

I'm having the same problem, tried resetting last night and it seems to be working.

I personally think the jam function is just too sensitive. When theres ice that prevents the windows from rolling up and down, it makes the sensors think its jammed so they tend to lock up. Try parking the vehicle in a warmer place, it should help. I just fixed my jammed window mins ago.

My windows jam every damn morning here in coldass Sweden :(

Burnt passenger motor here supposedly. We will see

I had this happen to me today. The passenger window went down but wouldn't go back up I had to reach over and do it from the switch on the passenger side.

The manual does not really specify it has to be done on the effected side.

Same problem here. I tried the "master reset" (disconnect battery, wait 10 min, reconnect battery) and it worked.

Lol at te dealership. All you have to do is hold down both olbittons unt the lights go off ad stop flashing

It does though.

If the passenger window won't go up or down from the drivers side, just hold the passenger side button all the way down, wait a few seconds, then hold it while it rolls up and hold for a few seconds again, now it works.

I wonder if getting the car Krown'ed would make a difference? Since they drill a hole on the door sill and spray that greasy stuff inside the door. Maybe that'll prevent the components inside from freezing?

There's a fix in the DIY section. Do it. takes 5 minutes.

My situation doesn't involve ice, but lately we have had some days that have droppbed below 40* F, and my windows have been going down when I open the door, but won't automatically go back up when I close the door. I took it to the dealership and they said basically what is quoted above: when it gets cold outside it is harder for the window to close itself, which makes it think there is something blocking the window. They literally said that the car is operating as it should, and implied that it's just going to be part of owning the car... pisses me off since I bought it BRAND NEW and since it's operating as designed, "there is nothing to fix"... so I just have to deal with it.

Not sure where to go from here, but I am definitely not satisfied.

ummm after my reset, the windows haven't jammed ever since. the weather has been colder here too.maybe further wear and tear on the windows will loosen it up, the jam would occur less often.

Dude, it's in your manual, that's like the definition of "normal operation"

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=44

You can feel how you want about it but unless it does something out of the ordinary I don't think anybody is going to do anything about it.

Thanks for the link. As for it being the definition of normal operation, I disagree. The manual says "When the power window does not close normally", and then gives the corrective steps to remedy the problem (temporarily).

i'm in canada the temps went down to -40 -45 celsius all week long and before opening it i always taking a card and swap it between the seal and the windows. no problem since i'm doing that if not go in your car close the door, bring it half or completly down then up and hold for 10 sec it should be ok if not: go see the dealer again and complain about it

Don't be absurd. The window staying in the down position is not acceptable. It is a design error that is the result of good intentions revolving around preserving the window mechanism and door seals.

In order for this to be "Ordinary" it would have to be predictable, repeatable and acceptable to the owner. So far, to me, the dealer and Scion,it is not.

If you want to "live with it", then every time you get out of your car, you need to pause and inspect (in the dark) if it is down or not. Then walk over to the passenger side and repeat. If it is down, then you get back in the car and reset the window.Don't EVER forget to do this, because the one time you do, you are gonna be screwed. It gets old and eventually you forget to check. I will try not to do it again.

The good news is that it was snow, easy to brush out and vacuum. Water is going to suck worse when it happens.

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...t/DSC05382.jpg

Yeah I made that post before you posted that in the other thread, it sucks and it is a design... deficiency. More power to you to complain, but I will honestly be very impressed if anything comes of it. I know I would be right pissed off if I was in your shoes.

FS: Scion FR-S, low miles, NEW upholstery!

Well, its been about 24 hours and the weather turned cold again. After being in the dealers hands yesterday, the windows did not go down at all today. No visible ice, but jamed up and not moving at all when door opened.

Fortunately I checked as I pulled in tonight since the window did drop down (I did not notice)

Got back in the car and reprogramed the window and got out and made sure that it went up again. Had I missed that it was working again, and malfunctioning, I would have had another snowman driving in the morning!

Well, this is bull... Hopefully they remove that damn sensor... Too much safety shit.

Dunno why they went frameless, Subaru is going away from them now. My passenger window just did this yesterday, did the little jog down and stayed down after closing door. I didn't notice until I came back after work! Btw temp here hasn't gone below 70!
And I assume the band I see left on glass after lower & raising is due to some reenforcing block inside door to support the glass because its frameless. This is probably my one gripe with this car. Everything else is pretty nice!