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JouMaSeHoes 11-26-2012 12:00 PM

Supercharger!
 
Just received proof that an 86 was Supercharged here in ZA!

I'm waiting for permission from the gentleman to post the pics......

Also heard from a little birdy that there is an unsold Orange 86! I'm seriously surprised!

lucius 11-26-2012 01:35 PM

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interessting...yeah..would love to see pics...

Crewzern 11-27-2012 02:49 AM

Pics please :w00t:
Can you say which make of supercharger?

JouMaSeHoes 11-27-2012 03:31 AM

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This is what I have.

No idea what make/type? Doesn't look like any of the ones I've seen on the forum.

I left out the other pics, because I havent spoken to the gentleman yet...

PREDATOR786 11-27-2012 07:22 AM

That looks like something Rob Green Motorsport may have put together.

They are well known for Vortech kits. I'm not sure if they have brought in any of the kits for the 86, but this may well be a custom kit from them locally?

JouMaSeHoes 11-27-2012 10:07 AM

Just had a look at RGM's website, and it does look like one of theirs. Will let you all know as soon as I get any other info.

Ryan86 11-27-2012 10:44 AM

Can't say I like the look, but good to see local manufacturers coming up with mods for the 86.

I really like the look of the Vortech Supercharger.

Sent a mail through to SAC, to find out what they can do for extra performance on the 86, as they do a lot of work with Toyota and keeping with warranties.

JouMaSeHoes 11-27-2012 11:00 AM

Let us know what you get from them.

TheGooseman 11-30-2012 02:35 AM

Some info, when I spoke to Rob at TTCC charity event last weekend... :thumbup:

http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum...p?f=64&t=67480

Crewzern 11-30-2012 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGooseman (Post 582708)
Some info, when I spoke to Rob at TTCC charity event last weekend... :thumbup:

http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum...p?f=64&t=67480

Dont have access to twincam forum at work...please post what he said.

PREDATOR786 11-30-2012 04:26 AM

In a nutshell, he has confirmed they have a kit in the final production stages, using a Vortech supercharger.

Figures and pricing have not been confirmed yet, but Rob expects to see a 60% increase in power.

I am guessing that it will not be the exact bolt-on kit that Vortech supplies, but will be customised with RGM's signature parts like the water-to-air cooler and top notch fabrication. It will most probably be run off a UniQ unichip. This is just my speculation so don't bite my head off. LOL!

I think we can see good power from this kit in SA, especially since we don't have as strict emmision laws compared to other parts of the world.

Crewzern 11-30-2012 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PREDATOR786 (Post 582824)
In a nutshell, he has confirmed they have a kit in the final production stages, using a Vortech supercharger.

Figures and pricing have not been confirmed yet, but Rob expects to see a 60% increase in power.

I am guessing that it will not be the exact bolt-on kit that Vortech supplies, but will be customised with RGM's signature parts like the water-to-air cooler and top notch fabrication. It will most probably be run off a UniQ unichip. This is just my speculation so don't bite my head off. LOL!

I think we can see good power from this kit in SA, especially since we don't have as strict emmision laws compared to other parts of the world.

Thanks :thumbsup: ... did he say when this kit will be ready or what price it will be ?

TheGooseman 12-03-2012 09:19 AM

Sorry for the late response...

"So, at the charity day yesterday Rob Green showed up in his supercharged FJ cruiser.... http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum...on_biggrin.gif

I spoke to him about a supercharger kit for Toyota 86...
He mentioned the following:
- Kit is under final development
- The kit will be Vortex
- 6 has been ordered, 5 already sold
- 60% increase in power...!!

Please note that these kits are still under development and that final figures and prices will be released by RGM at a later stage.

GREAT NEWS...!! http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum.../notworthy.gif"

gmookher 12-03-2012 09:23 AM

awesome for you guys!

TheGooseman 12-04-2012 01:43 AM

Some feedback received from Rob Green yesterday:

"Thank you so much for following up, I am 2 days away from releasing our RGMotorsport-Vortech Supercharged conversion and will mail you shortly."

I will post an update once I recieved the new info within the next two days....

Can't wait....!! http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum...ies/happy1.gif

Crewzern 12-04-2012 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGooseman (Post 589113)
Some feedback received from Rob Green yesterday:

"Thank you so much for following up, I am 2 days away from releasing our RGMotorsport-Vortech Supercharged conversion and will mail you shortly."

I will post an update once I recieved the new info within the next two days....

Can't wait....!! http://www.tolken.co.za/twincamforum...ies/happy1.gif

:popcorn:

JouMaSeHoes 12-04-2012 03:55 AM

I spoke to the local SAC, it seems that SAC are working on an exhaust system as well, interestingly they replace the cat with a high flow cat. They'll get back to me with more info.

TheGooseman 12-06-2012 09:31 AM

Just got the official info back from Rob....

This is AWESOME....!! :happyanim:
It looks absolutely BRILLIANT....!! :w00t:

And the power..... OH MY WORD...!!


See below for all the details:


RGMOTORSPORT SUPERCHARGED 210kW(280bhp) TOYOTA 86


The fun-to-drive car is back, and the Toyota 86 platform is the most exciting thing to come along in years! However, most people believe there is one thing missing... more power! With RGMotorsports legendary history of improved performance through efficient boost, the team of Engineers at RGM-Vortech have designed a kit that makes these great cars even more enjoyable to drive. Design, detail and execution exceed OEM standards for a look you will be excited to show off at the car show or the track.Boost your Toyota 86 to the next level of performance with the new centrifugal supercharging system from RGM-Vortech.

View of the 86 engine compartment with the RGMotorsport-Vortech Supercharged installation

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...tGuse/86_1.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...tGuse/86_2.jpg


System Features
• Gear-driven V-3 H67BC centrifugal supercharger, designed specifically for the FA20 Boxer engine.
• The V-3 features an internal oil reservoir. No connection between the oil pan and the compressor gear case is required; no oil line. Includes a remote fluid drain hose (attached to supercharger) that allows for simple
fluid changes without removing the supercharger from the vehicle.
• Technologically advanced, high-efficiency, 5-Axis machined billet impeller and high-diffusion housing developed in our SAE-J1723-compliant supercharger test cell.
• Stylized airbox and filter housing design allows for additional flow, while retaining the factory cold air ram intake. Quick release fasteners allow for simple access to filter for change/cleaning.
• Integrated air/air charge cooler configuration features all aluminum tube ducting and an oversized cooler core to provide maximum cooling with minimum pressure loss.
• Discharge duct connections utilize heat resistant silicon sleeves and premium quality stainless steel clamps.
• CNC machined billet mounting bracketry with black anodized finish for attractive and functional "factory-type" appearance and rigidity.
• Complete bolt-on system including all necessary belts, pulleys and reusable high-flow air filter.

RGM is proud to be releasing this joint supercharge venture into the South African market place, in January 2013.
Our kits will be available as follows :
RGM- Vortech supercharger kit, engine mapping is via Uni Q unichip .This installation includes our 6 months/20 000km warranty Cost R 75000.inc
RGM Techniflow 63mm stainless steel performance exhaust system (this system also eliminates the catalytic convertors ) This exhaust system does give you the option of using the OE tailpipes
Cost R 9950.inc
The performance gain expected 210Kw(40% plus gain) including our exhaust system

This image portrays the high quality of the kit with a view of the individual components.

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...use/86_3-1.jpg

http://WWW.RGMOTORSPORT.COM

PREDATOR786 12-06-2012 09:54 AM

Yikes!

So, we're looking at R 85,000 to get 210kws?

That's roughly one third of the vehicle's purchase price.

sav 12-06-2012 10:01 AM

Screw that, RGM does good work but they're ridiculous with their prices.

v3rgil 12-06-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sav (Post 593796)
Screw that, RGM does good work but they're ridiculous with their prices.

i concur, money hungry bastards, should have been in the region of 25-30k at the most, got a price from SAC for a stage 1 conversion, 15+ Kw @ 11.5k (Chip & exhaust system)

sieglapj 12-06-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v3rgil (Post 593960)
i concur, money hungry bastards, should have been in the region of 25-30k at the most, got a price from SAC for a stage 1 conversion, 15+ Kw @ 11.5k (Chip & exhaust system)

Will the SAC stage 1 void the warranty?

v3rgil 12-06-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sieglapj (Post 593986)
Will the SAC stage 1 void the warranty?

jip, as will any mod to engine, in some cases aftermarket filter also voids warranty if found it to be at fault, eish!!!!!

TheGooseman 12-06-2012 12:53 PM

Just to put into perspective..

The kit is not cheap yes, this kit retails for almost $5000 over seas.
BUT we get the kit completely installed with performance filter, UniQ chip installed and mapped/dyno.

Atleast someone went through the trouble and R&D to bring us this kit reliably to SA.

Ryan86 12-06-2012 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGooseman (Post 594053)
Just to put into perspective..

The kit is not cheap yes, this kit retails for almost $5000 over seas.
BUT we get the kit completely installed with performance filter, UniQ chip installed and mapped/dyno.

Atleast someone went through the trouble and R&D to bring us this kit reliably to SA.

We all agree with you and support a product tested to our climate standards in conjunction with manufacturers requirements.
Based on price, would a supercharged 86 be on your buying list for R420k?
86 is about fun and affordability, anyone making after market parts should always keep this in mind or the product won't sell.

Gp1666 12-06-2012 05:48 PM

Lets see what TRD is gonna bring to the table... Cause 75k ...... Ouchy..... :sigh:

TheGooseman 12-07-2012 01:27 AM

Don't know how you get to 420K...?

When you want a +200kw rwd sprots car... I guess "affordability" starts flying out the window... :)

I mean, people don't mind paying 400k for a Renault or a Golof....!


But anyways... just thought I'd share some info.... :w00t:

It would be nice yes - if someone could provide a good quality, reliable and tested kit for half the price, but I doubt it..!
Let's hold thumbs for TRD.... :burnrubber:

Ryan86 12-07-2012 02:02 AM

High spec R330k plus R85k super charger plus plus gets you close to R420k.

Everyone to there own, however new Golf 7 will be less and has many more features plus 4 doors which will sway the buyer.

R20k to R30k would be a competitive price in my opinion, whether that's achievable!

Your information has been most informative,

Crewzern 12-07-2012 02:53 AM

So this is the same kit Perrin has on there vortech car. 210kw flywheel or wheel ? ... when Perrin dynoed there vortech kit they got around 250 whp, thats ~ 185wkw ... would have been nice if RGM offered the ECUTek option as opposed to piggy back

Price is :confused0068:

v3rgil 12-07-2012 02:58 AM

High Performance Supercharger Kit
for Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ
OEM Fitment Twin Screw Supercharger
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/p...percharger.jpg



TWIN SCREW SUPERCHARGER - The twin screw (positive displacement) supercharger provides unrivaled low and mid range torque while still providing impressive peak power. The proprietary internal design of the supercharger offers exceptional isentropic efficiency when compared to other supercharger and turbocharger designs and only requires servicing every 30,000 miles!
INTEGRATED INTERCOOLER - The intake manifold features highly efficient Laminovaฎ liquid to air intercooler cores inside (Stage 2 only).
FUEL SYSTEM UPGRADES - The Stage 2 kit includes high flow injectors and a fuel pump to support higher horsepower levels.
TUNING - All kits include a professionally engineered EcuTek calibration to provide optimum performance and "OEM" driveability.
OEM AIRBOX - The original airbox and MAF sensor is maintained on the suction (cold) side to prevent damage to sensitive electronics, maintain OEM appearance and provide excellent air filtration.
HIGH PERFORMANCE INTAKE MANIFOLD - The purpose built intake manifold is a direct replacement and provides superior performance over the stock intake manifold.

v3rgil 12-07-2012 03:02 AM

i think we should all take a back seat and give about another 6 to 8 months, before we even consider buying a kit, there are so many manufactures whom want a piece of the 86,
that the competition is going to get so steep and force prices to drop. lets wait and see what happens, and also consider that know one has done any safe miles with a kit to give any indication of reliability.

GeeTee86 12-07-2012 03:30 AM

Wow that really looks the part hey

JouMaSeHoes 12-14-2012 08:43 AM

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A quick update on Braam's 86 Supercharger build:

We tested my car on his dyno as a baseline and got 100kw at the wheels (not bad for 35 deg C ambient!)

Later in the afternoon he tested his . . . . 156kw at the wheels :confused0068:

Wow.

JouMaSeHoes 12-14-2012 08:49 AM

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Sorry wrong pic. Here are some new ones.

Crewzern 12-18-2012 04:45 AM

Can you post your dyno graph.

Vic_RSA 12-18-2012 04:49 AM

And a sound clip if possible - from inside and outside. ;)

JouMaSeHoes 12-18-2012 05:00 AM

I've asked him for digital copies of the dyno runs, I'll see if we can get together for a video clip sometime.

Rommies 05-20-2013 02:35 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37000

Adam86 05-27-2013 05:16 PM

only 210 kw? and thats on the flywheel not on the wheels... for that price you might aswell import a TURBO because it gives more power. RGM is abit crazy for 85k

BigBear 01-10-2014 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGooseman (Post 593766)
Just got the official info back from Rob....

This is AWESOME....!! :happyanim:
It looks absolutely BRILLIANT....!! :w00t:

And the power..... OH MY WORD...!!


See below for all the details:


RGMOTORSPORT SUPERCHARGED 210kW(280bhp) TOYOTA 86


The fun-to-drive car is back, and the Toyota 86 platform is the most exciting thing to come along in years! However, most people believe there is one thing missing... more power! With RGMotorsports legendary history of improved performance through efficient boost, the team of Engineers at RGM-Vortech have designed a kit that makes these great cars even more enjoyable to drive. Design, detail and execution exceed OEM standards for a look you will be excited to show off at the car show or the track.Boost your Toyota 86 to the next level of performance with the new centrifugal supercharging system from RGM-Vortech.

View of the 86 engine compartment with the RGMotorsport-Vortech Supercharged installation

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...tGuse/86_1.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...tGuse/86_2.jpg


System Features
• Gear-driven V-3 H67BC centrifugal supercharger, designed specifically for the FA20 Boxer engine.
• The V-3 features an internal oil reservoir. No connection between the oil pan and the compressor gear case is required; no oil line. Includes a remote fluid drain hose (attached to supercharger) that allows for simple
fluid changes without removing the supercharger from the vehicle.
• Technologically advanced, high-efficiency, 5-Axis machined billet impeller and high-diffusion housing developed in our SAE-J1723-compliant supercharger test cell.
• Stylized airbox and filter housing design allows for additional flow, while retaining the factory cold air ram intake. Quick release fasteners allow for simple access to filter for change/cleaning.
• Integrated air/air charge cooler configuration features all aluminum tube ducting and an oversized cooler core to provide maximum cooling with minimum pressure loss.
• Discharge duct connections utilize heat resistant silicon sleeves and premium quality stainless steel clamps.
• CNC machined billet mounting bracketry with black anodized finish for attractive and functional "factory-type" appearance and rigidity.
• Complete bolt-on system including all necessary belts, pulleys and reusable high-flow air filter.

RGM is proud to be releasing this joint supercharge venture into the South African market place, in January 2013.
Our kits will be available as follows :
RGM- Vortech supercharger kit, engine mapping is via Uni Q unichip .This installation includes our 6 months/20 000km warranty Cost R 75000.inc
RGM Techniflow 63mm stainless steel performance exhaust system (this system also eliminates the catalytic convertors ) This exhaust system does give you the option of using the OE tailpipes
Cost R 9950.inc
The performance gain expected 210Kw(40% plus gain) including our exhaust system

This image portrays the high quality of the kit with a view of the individual components.

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...use/86_3-1.jpg

http://WWW.RGMOTORSPORT.COM
http://www.youtube.com/user/RGMDonovan?feature=watch

RGMotorsport Supercharged Toyota 86

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx8xitKLSBA"]RGMotorsport Supercharged Toyota 86 - YouTube[/ame]

Quote:

RGMotorsport Supercharged Toyota 86 Install video!! Weve improved this Standard 147kw powered Toyota 86 to a Mind Blowing 220 kW 315 Nm Powered sports car! Top speed of 270.99 km/h and 0 - 100 in 6.2 seconds!! For more info email us on info@rgmotorsport.com or visit our website www.rgmotorsport.com!
http://photostand.co.za/images/zv3l73vj76or4aj5qr9.jpg

Very Nice conversion just price 70k hectic but hopefully the Price=Quality as they claim.


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