American Censorship
 

So for those who are unaware of what's going on in Congress... Let me inform you. This link leads to the American Censorship (http://americancensorship.org/) bill that's going on.

So here's the deal. The "Online Piracy Act" or the "IP..." something something is a bill simply translated too.. "Government can block certain websites so people cannot visit it."

Most of you (completely assuming here haha) probably don't follow what congress is doing... because its a headache to follow and a full-time job on its own, but here is a bill that will strike most of you.

Sign the petition. Don't let assholes in congress control what you can and cannot do on the interwebs. Porn is for everyone. And as it should be. So is 4chan and torrent.

Hollywood is complaining because people steal their movies. I say.. stop making shitty movies. Artists are complaining people are stealing their songs. I don't want to pay money for a CD if I'm going to listen to 1 song. Or hell.. write fking better songs.

So here's the getter. If this bill does pass (I hope to god it doesn't) we're all limited to what we can and cannot see. If you want JDM parts from wherever you're thinking of purchasing from.. the website may be blocked because "U.S government wants you to buy USDM parts instead of imports."

Your rights are being taken away right under your nose. Freedom of speech? Right.. You can't say certain things or you "disappear" in the middle of the night. Right to bear arms? You can have them but can't use them. You can no longer have a peaceful protest because the government won't listen to you. You're fked anyways.

You don't need to be into political science to understand you're being butt F'd by the Gov.

Sign the petition so we can have something we still enjoy while pissing off those who make millions or billions of dollars.

Cheers.:happy0180:

Updated with some stuff I found in some Articles

Reference http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/sopa-stop-online-piracy-act-debate-why-are-google-and-facebook-against-it/2011/11/17/gIQAvLubVN_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop
Update 2: 11/18/2011 of a Article found on TIME techland
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If they take away my internets, I'll skip the occupy bullshit and start voting from the rooftops. Signed earlier.

Yay a politics thread!!!

I agree with almost everything in the OP minus the part about not paying for songs/movies. They are products just like anything else that someone put time and money into producing and they should be paid for those products. Just because you think the material is shitty doesn't mean you have a right to steal it. It's almost like saying that just because you think a Kia is a shitty car you should get one for free.

The government taking away your rights isn't anything new. It has been happening for decades as more and more regulations and laws are passed right under the public's nose. Unfortunately the average citizen doesn't have any idea what's happening in congress and probably doesn't care.

Fortunately there are people fighting back that can actually make a difference, and by people I mean corporations with money like Facebook and Google. They recognize that this law is definitely too far reaching and could spell trouble in the future.

Do American politicians even remember what the hell America is supposed to be about?

This is straight out of China's book. Blocking the 'Net for 'morality' reasons.

That's like saying no-one is allowed to go to LA, because you may car-jack someone there.

(sorry for silly Canadian stereotype about LA but you get my point...)

+1
get rid of torrent sites and call it a day

By that logic pawn shops should all be illegal, too.

yes, cuz all things in a pawn shop are stolen

"Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." -Thomas Paine

Over-regulation doesn't work, but it keeps people in power and helps them line their own pockets. You can put all the rules in the world out there, but people are still going to break them. Case in point, the guy taking pot shots at the White House last week. DC has all sorts of laws restricting firearms and discharging weapons in public yet some guy still popped off rounds towards 1600 Pennsylvania Ave leaving one of them embedded in bulletproof glass. How would more regulations stop this if there's someone already not following them in the first place?

You're making the assumption that all things on a torrent site can't legally be shared.

only because movies and music were mentioned

There are artists that don't care if their music is shared, and some even encourage it. I'm sure the same goes for small time movie productions that just want to get their name out there. IMO shutting down the torrent sites to stop piracy isn't the answer, unfortuantely I don't have a real solution and neither does anyone else at this point it seems.

I see the music and movies downloading a bit differently. A friend I don't have hands me a CD or DVD/BD and says "This album/movie/tv series was pretty neat, let me know what you think." Just because I watched or heard those artists' creations doesn't mean I'm obliged to support their work. The friend I don't have supported their work and is trying by way of free advertisement through sharing to have others do the same. From there I can decide whether to purchase or not.

Videos are pretty easy. Did I like it? If no, delete. If yes, enough to purchase? If yes, purchase. If no, delete.

Music is trickier because some tracks rock, and others suck. If I like the music and want to support the artist, I'll buy their CD, keep it, or rip it to FLAC and MP3 and trade it back in. The gray area for me occurs when there's a song or two that I want, but the whole CD just isn't worth purchasing. You can buy the MP3 tracks themselves from Amazon or iTunes or what have you, but that's not a lossless track like I'd want. This is where I become a dirty pirate and steal.

Pffffffffft. How the hell am I going to get anime then??!

You can go here: http://www.frankandsonshow.net/

My sister and i just went there recently and she found her anime and i was stuck in my past with pokemans and ps1. lol

Yeah lol some of the music and movies i watch are not released in the US and are hard to find to have shipped here. Yesasia and other sites like that don't carry everything i want so i just torrent it ><

Probably English Dubbed. Anger faced.

I'm still against hollywood. Lol

I see why people would not want torrent... but torrent has saved my life a few times. And has given me viruses (Fuckin adobe lightroom) some times.

I'm sure it was the "adobe" download that gave you the virus...;)

LOL

You sneaky person you~~ HAHAH.

/cough.

Edit: Lets move back on topic shall we.. >_> ahem.. <_<

Edit x2: Actually I don't torrent that stuff. :l The correct... sites have them.. ... .... ..... without viruses. O_O

i torrent a lot but only for stuff i really cant afford. For example. Maya 2012 or 3dsmax 2012...no way in hell can i afford a $4000 program just for shits, aka not used to make profit. I still pay for movies, music, games, and some affordable software like office/windows7. Because I support certain parts of the industry or certain individuals. Id never try and download a Pixar movie, id feel bad.

Its been a long time since iv got a virus from torrenting..i usually look at comments, and how many people are actually seeding.

Pirating those is second nature to me, I completely forgot about them. :bellyroll:

give me a break... some of you guys are trying to justify why its ok to steal things

+1

This thread sure has gone off course from censorship to piracy and theft lol.

That's to be expected haha.

Back on topic though, the first thing I thought of when I read the OP was "China" :scared0016: ...not good man.

I usually don't like to get involved with anything involving politics but this is :bs:...

http://i.imgur.com/Bomyi.png

And this all wouldn't be possible through the magic of the internet. :happyanim:

Of course, that's why they all want to 'Take America Back' for the 'Real Americans'.

I f***ing hate politicians. :mad0260:

I hate politics in general, but this one really bothered me. Lol

The people with big money are buying those representing in congress. Your vote won't matter if someone can cough up an extra 1mil for a guy to try to get it to pass.


I also hate election time. Nothing ever gets done.

I also remember reading an article at work one day. I briefly recall what it said but I'm sure it was something related to the 'minimum MPG' each car should have or else it won't be sold. Something about 36mpg MINIMUM city. I need to go dig that up.

It's always that way. Why do you think we still have farm subsidies, or 10% Ethanol in all our gasoline? Or ridiculous genetic patent laws, or the DMCA, or no Net Neutrality, or an embargo against Cuba that has lasted for 51 years (I'll give you hint, it's not because of communism)?

You might be thinking about CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Economy).

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...-american-cars

62mpg by 2025

I'm sure there will be "exceptions" though just like there are BS exceptions today to get tax credits. Ever see a vehicle with "flex fuel" slapped on the side? They get a tax break for that.

The U.S. population is definitely not represented by the makeup of congress. When there are over 60 millionaires in office out of the ~525 legislators that isn't in proportion with the rest of the country.

Am I allowed to call it Tyranny? lol

Awesome. Quick on finding that! And I knew something was up with the flex fuel. Didn't realize it was a tax break though. I know they get in the carpool lane even if its 1 person though!

Didn't the old politicians let you guys keep guns, as a show of faith that they would do such a good job of governing that you wouldn't have to use them against the government (again)?

As for the censorship issue, it's protectionism of an industry that is too lazy to adapt. Particularly the movie industry. The prices are retarded (at least in Canada) and the theaters cry that they don't make any money, so they have to do the customers up the bum on the concession prices.

Censoring websites that support filesharing isn't going to dump all this 'lost' revenue back into Hollywood. It's going to promote more advanced, probably more covert as well, filesharing development that could also be applied to more dangerous criminal applications.

troll fail, where'd you get that picture? Napster?

No, we have guns because the Feds said they would never create a permanent army. Americans were supposed to have and know how to use guns so that we could be called up as militia in the event of an invasion etc. Then, after the Feds created just such an army, no one was stupid/brave enough to try taking away the right to bear arms.

Attachment 2787

I cant decide if our government is evil or just stupid.


We have congress which is full of right wing extremists who say things like "Obama needs to be a one term president AT ALL COSTS , who want to cut programs like Medicare, social security, ECT. In order to "balance our budget" instead of making sensible cuts to our budget in all areas. they don't care about gun rights, they don't care about balancing our budget, they just want your vote.

We have Obama, who is a liberal, spinless ***** who is extremely racist against blacks. The man hates his own kind. He's addicted to spending for no apparent reason. What did the stimulus get us? Nothing. He's a war monger and he seems to have an obsesion with bombing the middle east. He's an embarrassment to my race and its sad he got 98% of the black vote. He doesn't care about black people. He doesn't care about our deficit, he only cares about your vote.

Next time your at the polls remember- They only care about your vote.

:laughabove:

^This is why we don't have political discussions. At least try to stay ontopic boys. Eh?

This bill needs to be voted down. The government does not have any rights nor should it attempt to control the internet.

All other forums I've been to either prohibit political threads or throw them all into a separate section for those that want to stay away. I'm interested to see which way this place ends up going.

Updated first post on another article. Lol

As for this politics thread... It's not as serious as those religious threads. Lol

Hachi is pretty lenient on us on the off-topic forum as long as its off-topic and not straight up troll/spam.

The irony is that by you reposting those articles into this thread, if the new law is put into effect, the forum could be shut down for copyright infringement...this bill is bad news bears.

And it's way too late now, too.

Its bad news everywhere.

THIS IS TYRANNY!

!!!!!

Gov can even shut down sites they THINK is unlawful. How stupid is that!

You people are all ignorant liberals!

The problem is we do not have enough true Christian republicans in office.

Piracy is illegal!! Duh!

We need to get Bachman in office or else that Muslin is going to ruin our country even more.

You people need to watch more fox news to get your FACTS straight!