FT-86 Competition / Track model mentioned in EVO Car Of The Year Issue
 

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awesome the cheaper one will have better brakes.

lol those were my thoughts as well.

I like this a lot....

A WHOLE lot.

Power windows, door locks, traction control, GPS, on-board computer system thingy need not apply. Luxaries I've lived without since I got rid of my Supra (well, the power options that is) and luxaries I can continue to live without.

Its like getting an awesomer gift for x-mas than you wanted.
"Oh sweet! Its the [thing here] I wanted so badly!"

"Yeah, and it doesn't have all the special crap you didn't want anyways AND comes with a sportier suspension /brake setup AND was $5000 dollars cheaper!"

"HELL YEAH!"

They should bring back the old slogan with this car:
"I love what you do for me, Toyota!"

I wonder this "WORLD'S BEST DRIFTING CAR" will it have a good stock steering angle? AE86 was also well known to have a good turn ratio

I just came. It's a mess, I need to go clean.

Axel i have to say you find some kick as articles... Thumbs up to you!

LOL :laughabove:

Sounds awesome, much like the R-Spec Genesis from Hyundai. I'm also intrigued by Honda getting the CR-Z into racing. Have to wait and see what happens with that. :thumbsup:

They need a strait tuner model for the CRZ, get rid of the electric motor, drop about 500lbs and lets get it on. I mean the CRZ is basically the complete opposite of the CRX.

It's heavy, unfocused, has an electric motor (all cars with electric motors have no soul), and basically doesn't excite like the old CRX did. Here's hoping they drop a Si version that fixes all these problems.

CRZ already have the mugen edition still have the electric motor, I dont think the CRZ will have a all gasoline powered performance motor, rumor has it honda will drop the type-r badge dont know if its true or not but thats sad. Personally the type-r badge put honda on top of tuning world sad to see it go.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/09/a...cr-z-by-mugen/

Wow, that would indeed be a very sad day for Honda. Hope that doesn't happen. Just because it's a hybrid, does that mean that a K20 or K24 wouldn't work without major modding?

That's extremely sad, given Honda's FWD prowess they showed in the 90's. :cry:

I can't wait to buy this car! I just heard the bad news in regards to the rotary engine. they are saying that they may not produce another rotary because of the fuel consumption and also the target performance that Mazda had in mind.

Rotary engine? Do you mean Flat-4 because I don't see any mazda in this thread (other than the mention to the low centre of gravity in the first post).

ahhh I want this car so bad and I really hope the those bucket seats make it to production.

:sigh: :slap:

"Even though its Front Wheel Drive..." ???

As if to say FF cars have superior handling characteristics compared to other platforms?

Pah!

Here we go again. :bonk:

the CRZ will produce 250ftlbs of torque starting at idle.....

140bhp + 250ftlbs of trq = omg throttle response

sure it will be FF but both engines (motors) will be used at the same time.

the car will be extremely light weight and its replacing the s-2000...it will have a stiff chassis no worries.

wow where did you get those numbers from? I believe the torque is suppose to be 107 lb-ft plus 57 lb-ft from the IMA.

hahaha, being pretty generous with that torque estimate aren't ya?

That is nowhere near the truth, sorry. The S2000 replacement was canceled. :thumbdown: I'd really like to know where you got those numbers from as well as that is way off from what was reported. Check this before making that claim: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/08/h...pecs-revealed/

However, this was reported back in February of a possible Type R CR-Z which would be sick. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/12/r...yo-motor-show/.

That made me :confused0068: also, I'll wait for the real independent review from car & driver or road and track for this one.

I didnt know kia was trying to get into it to...they are talking about adding a turbo to the forte koup for 2011 though. and VW has been trying to get a small rwd car off the ground for a long time now, the toyota might just be the ticket to finally getting them to do it. Looks like the next few years will be exciting for the car guys around the world...

I never really believed the Silvia project was ever cancelled just merely put on hold due to the economic downturn. The car was supposedly really far along in the development process so it's no surprise that they will be able to quickly dust it off and bring it to market if the FT-86 is the sales hit that we all think it will be.

Those other ones are just pipe dreams though that probably wouldn't make it to market until around the time of the mid cycle refresh for the FT-86. Does VW even have a small RWD platform? Would Kia use a version of the RWD Genesis platform because Hyundai tried that and their coupe is huge/overweight compared to the target specs of the FT.

The only other company, besides Nissan, that I think could realistically offer a similar size/configured vehicle to the FT-86 whithin the same timeframe is Mazda. They have a new miata coming out around the same time and could relatively easily pull a porsche move, ala cayman, and offer a slightly different coupe version of their roadster. That will never happen though.

Miata is lacking a turbo rotary engine from the factory :p

hell, the RX is lacking that from the factory.

I'll have whatever it is you're having.

I'm glad everyone else is doing this and my Honda is just letting it all fall by the wayside. /facepalm

lol ya Honda is like the only company not doing anything with RWD. :sigh:

VW had had their small rwd and mid engine concepts at all the major car shows over the past like 4-5 years...its only now that the could actualy do anything with it now that they own the majority stake in porsche. but who knows at this point...

lol ...... point taken

Honda traded in their nuts and their man card for a green image. Time to switch teams bud.

A small rwd mid-engined VW car built on a modified porsche boxster/cayman platform would be closer to the $35-45k USD range. You could almost buy 2 FT-86s for that price if the rumors of a $22k stripper track model are true. Not really what I would consider a FT-86 competitor.

Plus IIRC all of those VW concepts were convertibles right? I thought the plan was to build a "smaller cheaper entry level" boxster and VW would also get a version of that car out of the deal. There is no way that car is going to be anywhere close to $20k.

Looking more and more like it by the day. :cry:

It's true :( And I used to be a big Honda fan back in the NSX / S2k days.

It was a sad sad day to see them pull the plug on their F1 program to divert more funds to their green vehicles.

AHHHH music to my ears! :happyanim::happyanim:

Reading that article brought back a rush of anticipation and excitement again just like when I first saw pix of the car and info on it. I'm all of the sudden impatient for the long wait again heh. Great post OP. :thumbsup:

Know what isthe best thing about this car IMO? It's bringing together current/former AE86, MR-2, Celica, Impreza, Miata & S2000 owners. The community for this car will be awesome. Apart form being lightweight, adequately powered, well balanced and good looking, this is one of the things that will make this car a legend.

Yeah, I dunno about those guys. They always seemed kinda shaddy to me....:bellyroll:

Yep, especially those S2000 owners.