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Touge Factory 11-19-2012 07:54 PM

Lowered FR-S + Wheel Spacers = ♥
 
We wanted to share with you what our car looks like before and after wheel spacers on stock wheels.

Here is how the wheels sit after the car has been lowered.
Front:

http://www.tougefactory.com/mike/space2.jpg

Here are the Ichiba 25mm Version 2 Hubcentric Spacers. Simply bolt them on and torque them down to spec.
http://www.tougefactory.com/mike/space3.jpg

Here is how the wheels look AFTER the 25mm spacers installed.
http://www.tougefactory.com/mike/space4.jpg

For more pics....CLICK HERE

Hanakuso 11-19-2012 07:58 PM

What is the lowest size for the Ichiba V2 will fit our car with stock studs?

ChrisNcoronel 11-19-2012 09:02 PM

these are nice! thanks for sharing!

Burrcold 11-19-2012 09:05 PM

How does it handle?

iBRZ 11-19-2012 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 565941)
How does it handle?

what he said...

Batman 11-19-2012 11:17 PM

I just slammed the 25mm spacers on mine on saturday, havent had a chance to give it a good rally, but even just DD I notice a difference, tighter steering control and slightly better cornering. I have my 1 inch drop springs and sway bars coming soon, and am super excited to feel the difference there!

dsgerbc 11-20-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 565941)
How does it handle?

Does that need an answer from someone who decided to put 25mm spacer?

Positive scrub radius on a car designed for a negative one will do "wonders" to handling.

mashal 11-20-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazzzy (Post 566161)
what he said...

What he said


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Touge Factory 11-20-2012 01:56 PM

Our Stock FR-S measured in at 5.9 degrees of caster... which is good for RWD.
increasing the scrub radius on a RWD platform can improve steering feedback without affecting performance.
We haven't measured the scrub radius on the FR-S, but I can tell you from driving the car around steering feedback definitely feels better.

ML 11-20-2012 02:20 PM

inb4 dangerous, blah blah blah..

empower-auto 11-20-2012 03:23 PM

because Touge Factory has no idea what they are doing. geez, who's even heard of these guys? ;)







...Nick don't kill me!

larryw 11-20-2012 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 566247)
Does that need an answer from someone who decided to put 25mm spacer?

Positive scrub radius on a car designed for a negative one will do "wonders" to handling.

ZOMG positive scrub radius. WTFLMFO People, don't do any modifications to your car because the stock car is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT the way it is! :cry:

I'm tired of going into every single suspension modification thread and seeing someone, who's only source of information is something he just so happened to read on the internet, talk bad about everyone's set up. Please. Give it a break.

EarlQHan 11-20-2012 04:38 PM

I don't like this. Too stock.

stout90 11-20-2012 05:47 PM

stock wheels arent +41, theyre +48

dsgerbc 11-20-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryw (Post 567284)
ZOMG positive scrub radius. WTFLMFO People, don't do any modifications to your car because the stock car is ABSOLUTELY PERFECT the way it is! :cry:

I'm tired of going into every single suspension modification thread and seeing someone, who's only source of information is something he just so happened to read on the internet, talk bad about everyone's set up. Please. Give it a break.

I also love it how some people just assume that what others are saying must be based on some random junk they read somewhere.

Positive scrub radius is generally BAD for strut-based suspension. But whatever, go ahead and do whatever stupid thing you wanted to do to your suspension. Chances are we're in a different demographic, so you crashing won't affect my insurance rates.

Gt bug 11-20-2012 08:15 PM

Could U post your car's pic taken from a distance?
Many thanks!

diirk 11-20-2012 08:55 PM

More pics here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...d=1#post565808
Looks good

Touge Factory 11-21-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stout90 (Post 567483)
stock wheels arent +41, theyre +48

You are absolutely correct. we just checked the back side of our wheels.

Our mistake.

Touge Factory 11-21-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 567691)
Chances are we're in a different demographic, so you crashing won't affect my insurance rates.

I think you are taking this the wrong way. No one claimed that wheel spacers will enhance performance, but to say that this will cause you to crash...?
We simply put this up for anyone that wants to enhance the looks of their cars. Not everyone on this forum will be aiming to set their cars up for track use. We as a shop are here to experiment with aftermarket components and share with the community what you can do with your car. You can decide what / how you would like your car to handle / look.
We like to offer options for the wide range of demographics on this forum.

We simply put the spacers on our car because we are waiting for our suspension components to arrive.

Hanakuso 11-21-2012 02:44 PM

I know quite a few "teams" that use spacers on the track.

But Touge, did you find out the smallest size Ichiba V2 spacers that would fit?

dsgerbc 11-21-2012 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 568822)
I think you are taking this the wrong way. No one claimed that wheel spacers will enhance performance, but to say that this will cause you to crash...?

Look, everyone is free to put whatever they want on their cars. The question was "how does it handle", and I replied.
Then some douche came in an decided to attack me, cause he doesn't like my opinion.

It won't improve handling w/o other mods. This means nothing for track use. Sure, there will be people who use spacers on the track (I doubt many would run 25mm though), but they will do lots of other mods (for example stiffer suspension bushings) that will counteract ill effects off positive scrub radius. On an otherwise-stock car positive scrub will totally screw up steering feedback and make car gain toe-out under braking, which isn't too safe of a setting. Unstable set-up under braking can make an inexperienced person crash.

All-in-all, spacers may or may not be worth it to gain some visual appeal, but handling effects will be there.

Touge Factory 11-21-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 568966)
I know quite a few "teams" that use spacers on the track.

But Touge, did you find out the smallest size Ichiba V2 spacers that would fit?

The wheels have clearance to allow for the stock studs to poke through.
So, you should be safe with even 10mm spacers.

http://static.ed.edmunds-media.com/u...wheel_size.jpg

stout90 11-25-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 569384)
The wheels have clearance to allow for the stock studs to poke through.
So, you should be safe with even 10mm spacers.


well thats good to know! I was wondering about that

86design 11-25-2012 09:29 PM

whats the price for those :D

phloozy 06-04-2013 01:15 AM

Sorry to bump an old thread but are there any pics of these?

Fast_Freddy 06-04-2013 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 569384)
The wheels have clearance to allow for the stock studs to poke through.
So, you should be safe with even 10mm spacers.

So you measured and I would still have the required minimum of 12mm thread engagement even with 10mm spacers fitted?

glorydays 06-04-2013 09:21 AM

Ive yet to see someone with spacers and lowering springs on stock wheels. I bet it would look really good.

phloozy 06-04-2013 10:20 AM

someone must have done this

SkAsphalt 06-04-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloozy (Post 980153)
someone must have done this

Yes, a lot of people have done this already. I have been reading it on the forums for months now.

phloozy 06-04-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 980561)
Yes, a lot of people have done this already. I have been reading it on the forums for months now.

hmm i tried searching, could you link any pictures?

Otherwise I'll search harder

phloozy 06-04-2013 01:06 PM

For anyone interested i found this http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...wheels+spacers

Teknian_Culprate13 07-31-2013 09:07 PM

where can i get these spacers asap?

KONVERTER 08-01-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teknian_Culprate13 (Post 1109741)
where can i get these spacers asap?

Technically they are "Adapters" when the spacer bolts up to the existing hub.

Adapters are usually 20mm and larger. Spaers are anywhere from 3mm to 20mm.

Lots of people make "Adapters" H&R, Ichiba, Etc Etc...

Look for Hubcentric ones...

I believe the OP of this thread sells the spacers through their business.

If you want to pickup locally, I know a few dealers in your area.

Teknian_Culprate13 08-01-2013 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KONVERTER (Post 1110346)
Technically they are "Adapters" when the spacer bolts up to the existing hub.

Adapters are usually 20mm and larger. Spaers are anywhere from 3mm to 20mm.

Lots of people make "Adapters" H&R, Ichiba, Etc Etc...

Look for Hubcentric ones...

I believe the OP of this thread sells the spacers through their business.

If you want to pickup locally, I know a few dealers in your area.

send me over im in south orange county where can i go? to get a good deal though other wise i was thinking ebay but i dont know what size?

DAEMANO 08-01-2013 11:51 PM

OEM+++
Springs and Spacers/adapters (spacers a week back, springs today). I bought the adapters from another vendor (no threadjack here) and had them shipped (arrived in 3 days). 20mm front, 25mm rear. Springs should settle to -1.0" to 1.18" F and -1.20" - 1.30" rear". Will work till I figure out exactly what to do for wheels (both track and street).
http://i.imgur.com/v6HgAeH.jpg

Touge Factory 08-02-2013 07:11 PM

We used ICHIBA hubcentric version II spacers. (bolt-on) type.

15mm / 17mm / 20mm / 22mm / 25mm / 27mm / 30mm <-Available sizes.

mit_peid 08-02-2013 07:25 PM

I used 20mm H&R spacers for the front and 30mm H&R spacers for the rear. Went with some 18x7.5 wheels and a 1" drop. I really did like the way my Volks looked with the spacers on (besides the fact that the spacers were aluminum in color - need to anodize them black), but in all honesty the car drives better without the spacers on. I've been driving w/o spacers for the past 3 weeks and I feel the car has more responsive steering and generally just feels better. I'm going to experiment with maybe just leaving the spacers on the back and not having anything for the fronts. It might look a little funny, or I might just do spacers all around again "just for looks".

KONVERTER 08-02-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teknian_Culprate13 (Post 1112525)
send me over im in south orange county where can i go? to get a good deal though other wise i was thinking ebay but i dont know what size?

Orange County I don't know... Would have to go up to the San Gabriel valley...

Order from the OP in this thread, they have an online store.

garfull 08-04-2013 01:59 PM

Are the factory studs long enough for a 10mm spacer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge Factory (Post 569384)
The wheels have clearance to allow for the stock studs to poke through.
So, you should be safe with even 10mm spacers.

http://static.ed.edmunds-media.com/u...wheel_size.jpg


Fast_Freddy 08-05-2013 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garfull (Post 1117526)
Are the factory studs long enough for a 10mm spacer?

Not even close. The minimum safe thread engagement is 12mm or 10 turns. Take a lug nut off and count how many turns it takes until tight. Subtract 10 turns from that number and multiply that by 1.25 to get your max spacer thickness.


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