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KaliKev 11-10-2011 03:03 PM

What else do you want to know from TMS?
 
Since we have most of the specs and many pictures of the FRS, what are you looking forward to finding out that TAS will tell us?

Also, will we be finding out what versions the US will get then?

Dave-ROR 11-10-2011 03:09 PM

TAS is like SEMA, a show full of rice and showcars :P

TMS on the other hand I want to find out FULL specs, pricing, estimated times for purchase (in more detail, not spring, but say, "June 2012", etc).

KaliKev 11-10-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 74187)
TAS is like SEMA, a show full of rice and showcars :P

TMS on the other hand I want to find out FULL specs, pricing, estimated times for purchase (in more detail, not spring, but say, "June 2012", etc).

But the FRS is being revealed at TAS, so does that mean we don't get all the specs then?:iono:

Hachiroku 11-10-2011 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KaliKev (Post 74193)
But the FRS is being revealed at TAS, so does that mean we don't get all the specs then?:iono:

No, it's being revealed at the TMS next month.

Thread title corrected.

Dave-ROR 11-10-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaliKev (Post 74193)
But the FRS is being revealed at TAS, so does that mean we don't get all the specs then?:iono:

Negative. It's being revealed at the Tokyo Motor Show, not the Tokyo Auto Salon.

TAS is in Jan 2012.

KaliKev 11-10-2011 03:31 PM

Ahhh! Thanks for the correction!

suprachica79 11-10-2011 03:42 PM

I want full specs, what we will actually get in the U.S, trim levels, and prices

ichitaka05 11-10-2011 04:26 PM

I think, most members/followers are looking for the final price tag for this car gonna be.

Future 11-10-2011 04:28 PM

Price/Official release (or when will I be able to order one) date

oldskule 11-10-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprachica79 (Post 74204)
I want full specs, what we will actually get in the U.S, trim levels, and prices

Yep, mainly looking forward to the pricing, what will carry over to the Scion version (like the "86" logo on the steering wheel and fender vent area, the red in the interior, white tach), and a ton more pictures. I'd like a full frontal view!

Ikaros 11-10-2011 04:45 PM

Will they actually show the Scion version? Since it's in Japan wouldn't they show the Toyota version? Anyone knowledgable in how the Scion and Toyota version will differ judging from other cars in Scions line up?

Hawx 11-10-2011 05:06 PM

Full specs, price and release date.

ZetaVI 11-10-2011 05:17 PM

Price and Official Release.

Neutral_Eyes 11-10-2011 08:24 PM

More news from Mazda.

Nardi330 11-10-2011 08:26 PM

the official name for the Toyota version, price and release date.

and pics of show girls.

Calais 11-11-2011 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 74315)
the official name for the Toyota version, price and release date.

and pics of show girls.

:laughabove:THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

skeeler 11-11-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 74313)
More news from Mazda.

I'm right there with you.

For a while, there was talk of a Roadster/MX-5/Miata-related concept being shown, something that, like the Ibuki, would indicated the future direction of the car, but I haven't heard that in some time. Further, Maeda-san says not to expect anything on the ND for a couple of years.

Kids Heart 11-11-2011 03:56 PM

Official Nissan S16 Silvia concept. About the only thing that will keep me from buying the FRS.

Longhorn248 11-11-2011 05:54 PM

Specs, price, release date, and what tail lights will be on it.

SHINCHU86 11-12-2011 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 74539)
Official Nissan S16 Silvia concept. About the only thing that will keep me from buying the FRS.

oh jeezus, dont give me ANOTHER reason to hesitate from buying a new car!
:thanks:

but yeah, im with the majority.
price, date, specs, FR-S specifics?

Lordharding 11-12-2011 09:04 PM

Just want the colour and options and aprox delivery dates when orders placed

CountChoculitis 11-13-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikaros (Post 74237)
Will they actually show the Scion version? Since it's in Japan wouldn't they show the Toyota version? Anyone knowledgable in how the Scion and Toyota version will differ judging from other cars in Scions line up?

From what I've read online, the Toyota/Scion versions are to be identical.

That being said, it raises another question. Which Toyota trim level will match the Scion version? Or will this be the first Scion with trim options?

Hmmmm... These are the types of questions I'm gonna be trying to get answers to at work.

Longhorn248 11-13-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CountChoculitis (Post 74996)
From what I've read online, the Toyota/Scion versions are to be identical.

That being said, it raises another question. Which Toyota trim level will match the Scion version? Or will this be the first Scion with trim options?

Hmmmm... These are the types of questions I'm gonna be trying to get answers to at work.

I hope the Scion version has trim levels, or perhaps a "sport package" like with the 370Z.

jimmillion 11-24-2011 09:25 PM

- Can you show us some scaling pictures?. Like with you standing beside it. After seeing so many candid pictures of people around the test mules it's hard to really get a feel for the actual dimensions of the production model.

- Straight on FRONT, LEFT, RIGHT, REAR pictures of the car would be great too. So we can clearly see the shapes and angles of the car. I can only look at the 3/4 angle picture so many times.

Think reproducing this:
http://www.roogio.com/images/2012-Pe...ls-600x436.jpg


We know so much about the car that imo all that's really left is seeing what made the production model and what didn't. :thumbsup:

Hawx 11-24-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 74539)
Official Nissan S16 Silvia concept. About the only thing that will keep me from buying the FRS.

:eyebulge: Didn't think I could get any more excited for TMS until now!! :happyanim:

sazu 11-24-2011 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 74539)
Official Nissan S16 Silvia concept. About the only thing that will keep me from buying the FRS.

Is this the S16 concept car? If it is, I'm getting the FR-S for sure.
http://www.7tune.com/images/silvia/silvia1.jpg

tripjammer 11-24-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sazu (Post 79214)
Is this the S16 concept car? If it is, I'm getting the FR-S for sure.
http://www.7tune.com/images/silvia/silvia1.jpg

Man that thing is ugly! Come on Nissan you can do better!

KaliKev 11-24-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sazu (Post 79214)
Is this the S16 concept car? If it is, I'm getting the FR-S for sure.
http://www.7tune.com/images/silvia/silvia1.jpg

There's goes my thanksgiving dinner...

Hawx 11-24-2011 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sazu (Post 79214)
Is this the S16 concept car? If it is, I'm getting the FR-S for sure.

I don't think that's it (at least I hope it's not), doesn't remind me of a silvia at all!

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 79215)
Man that thing is ugly! Come on Nissan you can do better!

+1

Matador 11-24-2011 10:55 PM

Photoshop of the Nissan sport compact concept from some years aback. It's the car that became the Tiida.

is Nissan really presenting an S16 concept? The FT-86 isn't even out yet and already it's lighting a fire under everyone's ass .... :lol:

iff2mastamatt 11-24-2011 11:12 PM

I want to see this thing in hi-res photos!

Snoopyalien24 11-25-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 74539)
Official Nissan S16 Silvia concept. About the only thing that will keep me from buying the FRS.

I wouldn't mind something sleek and low with these lines:

http://img2.lln.crunchyroll.com/i/sp...5c010_full.jpg

I would like to see Nissan and Honda get in to cheap Front engine, Rear-wheel drive in the $19k-$24k range.

Infernal 11-25-2011 07:59 AM

a new s16, rx-7, gt-s will only come out if the ft-86 starts pulling big chunks away from buying other types of car - there needs to be a market for it!

I'm looking forward to pricing and finding out about the wing from the gazoo 24h car (if its from subaru catalogue or not)

tripjammer 11-25-2011 08:25 AM

Nissan will definately come out with a new Silvia..they got the new engines...either the 1.6 liter turbo in the juke or the upcoming 2.5 liter supercharged 4 cylinder in the 2013 Altima.

The just need a small rwd platform...oh wait they got that too...370z.

They could do this for mid $20k. But will they make it pretty.

Honda needs to do it to...to redeem themselves...but go rwd in a new integra...

aliphian 11-25-2011 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 79332)
Nissan will definately come out with a new Silvia..they got the new engines...either the 1.6 liter turbo in the juke or the upcoming 2.5 liter supercharged 4 cylinder in the 2013 Altima.

The just need a small rwd platform...oh wait they got that too...370z.

They could do this for mid $20k. But will they make it pretty.

Honda needs to do it to...to redeem themselves...but go rwd in a new integra...

If only.

gabb6472 11-25-2011 08:27 PM

I would like to know further about the 'open to aftermarket modding' side of things that has been talked about. R.e customisable ECU, warranty voiding things?

Longhorn248 11-26-2011 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 79332)
Nissan will definately come out with a new Silvia..they got the new engines...either the 1.6 liter turbo in the juke or the upcoming 2.5 liter supercharged 4 cylinder in the 2013 Altima.

The just need a small rwd platform...oh wait they got that too...370z.

They could do this for mid $20k. But will they make it pretty.

Honda needs to do it to...to redeem themselves...but go rwd in a new integra...

It would be great to see other manufacturers get into the game. Competition only leads to innovation and lower prices, which are both good for us as the consumers.

WingsofWar 11-26-2011 03:34 AM

^ so far from my insiders knowledge, I know the next Mazda RX-x will be going back to its early roots when Ikudo Maeda gets the greenlight. EG, lightweight rotary turbo. which will be shared platform with next gen miata..and you heard rumors of how light the MX-5 is getting next time around..

i haven't heard any news of Nissan bringing back Silvia platform. From what i understood Nissan has a 10 and 20 year plan, which included downsizing the number of platforms. And only 1 platform is FR layout but falls under mid-sized catagory. The 370z is the smallest of the FM-platform and its still a big car. Meaning if Silvia is released under FM platform it will not achieve a lightweight frame.

If they were to succeed in bringing out the Silvia, they would have to revive the discontinued S-platform or release a new platform which is highly unlikely with Renault at the helm of development. And build a brand new 4 cylinder as the MR16DDT found in the juke has horrible performance engineering, regardless if it runs a very fucking advanced head design. CVTCS/behive valvesprings/sodium filled valves/ect...

aka Silvia is a dead idea and i cant see any reason why Nissan would play with the thought with the Z still big part of Nissan's image.

tripjammer 11-26-2011 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 79460)
It would be great to see other manufacturers get into the game. Competition only leads to innovation and lower prices, which are both good for us as the consumers.


There is a rumor that Honda is going to bring back the S2000, NSX and the Integra. If you think about it, Honda has no RWD cars. Why did honda kill the S2000, integra\RSX, and prelude? I can understand the NSX, it was way overpriced!

And there is a rumor that Nissan is going to bring back the Silvia in RWD or AWD. And Toyota is going to bring back the Supra.

If this happens it is all because of the Genesis Coupe and the FT-86.

Now we need somebody to make a 4 cylinder 200HP plus lightweight RWD sports sedan!

Life will be grand!

WingsofWar 11-26-2011 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripjammer (Post 79480)
There is a rumor that Honda is going to bring back the S2000, NSX and the Integra. If you think about it, Honda has no RWD cars. Why did honda kill the S2000, integra\RSX, and prelude? I can understand the NSX, it was way overpriced!

Sales sales sales, The Civic and Accord vastly overshadowed Integra and prelude which led to their lack of sales. The S2000 became too expensive and too impractical towards its last years leading up to bad economy. Basically Honda committed suicide with the integra and prelude by making the Civic and Accord too good and overlap the platforms making them useless.

Quote:

And there is a rumor that Nissan is going to bring back the Silvia in RWD or AWD. And Toyota is going to bring back the Supra.
This has been an ongoing rumor that has never found credible sources, and manufacturers are repeatedly denied claims of such things.

Quote:

If this happens it is all because of the Genesis Coupe and the FT-86.
No it wont, if companies bring back their old quick ponies its because the market sounds safe to do it. Not because a company is doing well with a halo car. Trying to rival other manufacturers by responding with a competitive car is actually somewhat dangerous playing grounds and can lead to company catastrophe. Marketing and Analysis is very complicated and can take months to years to finish gathering data for review to see what consumers WANT vs NEED vs RISK.


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