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WatchmaN 11-12-2012 03:28 PM

[review]Stay away from Ecutek FA20 tune(stg2) if.....
 
- If you like your car the way it is, smooth and with a non responsive throtlle pedal.

-If the power of the car stock scares you or your gilfriend is, cause you are in for a treat with this tune.

- If you don't like to get push back in your seat when floor the gaz pedal.

- If you don't like great service, a customer service that answer your questions in the hour, even in week-end and late at night. A tuner that is gonna stick with you till the tune is perfect for your setup(intake,exhaust,ect) If you like it the other way around i could pm you a link of a thread for that.

So, It' the third time a fall in love with this car, First drive, drive at the track, and now with this tune. The first time I drove my car with this tune it was a rainy day(slipery) and on winter tire studed lol. And even with all those condition I felt the car chewing on the road.

I'm the kind of guy that when a get in my fr-s a push the tc button for 3 second to take all granny mode off. Not anymore at very best I put it in sport mode and sometime reach for the buttton again cause it gets scary.

I can't wait for summer with my summer tire to see how great it's gonna be on track/street. What is even greater is that i'm on the first map tune I did'nt even send them dataloging yet. What's gonna happen then?? i'm I still gona be alive to come back and makes so comments on the tune lol.

Jokes apart the FA20 tune is funtastick, and their sevice is on par with the tune, I highly recommend it.

BioRage 11-12-2012 03:34 PM

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VSGTS14 11-12-2012 03:41 PM

i assume he likes the tune :)

WatchmaN 11-12-2012 03:42 PM

Funny and truthful to answer you questions.:thumbup:

BRZranger 11-12-2012 04:06 PM

I think this is the opposite of a troll. FA20Club.com are great guys with a great product and excellent service!

*KID* 11-12-2012 04:14 PM

im anxious to order

JoeBoxer 11-12-2012 04:24 PM

I was about to say wtf but you will definitely get some clicks on the thread from his customers with that thread title...

FA20 does a great job, i've got a catback ordered and i'm not sure if it will need a new file but i'm sure he will send me a new one anyways once i send some logs in.

nonicname 11-12-2012 05:02 PM

whats the power on this stage 2? what mods are needed with this?

WatchmaN 11-12-2012 05:08 PM

20+ whp, automatic or manual, mods: Intake. I was skeptical at those claims, but after install I have no doubts it's a complete differant car.

WatchmaN 11-12-2012 05:49 PM

yeah exactly, for the pull it would'nt be good cause i'm on winter tires with stud. With the tune now with all controls off even in fourth gear my tails gets happy on a WOT so its pretty dangerous. but be sure you gonna have a minimum of a sec of your 0-60.

To give you an idea i'm also beta testing Perrin tune which is not finish cause jeff found something wrong in the data reading with the intake and with even with that when I flash my car with it I droped .75/sec on my 0-60 from stock ecu. Go see the video of that but you will see that there's something wrong at the pull off. And FA20 tune I don't have that at all and i'm pretty sure ill drop another second from the unfinish Perrin tune.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZH4PCBr0yQ"]0-60 run testing rev limiter - YouTube[/ame]

nonicname 11-12-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchmaN (Post 553174)
20+ whp, automatic or manual, mods: Intake. I was skeptical at those claims, but after install I have no doubts it's a complete differant car.

what is the difference between stage 1 and this? just the intake?

so26 11-12-2012 08:27 PM

WOW that 0-60 run seems pretty fast ... sub 5s?

JoeBoxer 11-12-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by so26 (Post 553499)
WOW that 0-60 run seems pretty fast ... sub 5s?

He is in km/h i didn't watch the video but that may change it lol.

so26 11-12-2012 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 553520)
He is in km/h i didn't watch the video but that may change it lol.

Nice catch that makes more sense. :(

wootwoot 11-12-2012 10:30 PM

I am worried the stage 2 tune may lean the mixture out a bit more.... perhaps a bit too much for my liking... Any dyno and AFR info?

WatchmaN 11-12-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTSEightysix (Post 553700)
im clocking that at 8.1 -8.3 sec 0 -100kmh :(

i was hoping more for 6.9's to keep up with GTI's etc..

:(

Nop wrong it's a 7.25, I timed with after effect frame by frame.:)

And it's a false start as you can see the bad lunch. And the video is on Perrin tune not FA20. So up to now I would say jsut by the feeling of it that I feel the FA20 is twice the power of Perrin, but wait Perrin is only beta for now will see the end result when both are done testing. And the ultimate test will be on dyno.

WatchmaN 11-12-2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonicname (Post 553346)
what is the difference between stage 1 and this? just the intake?

yep stage 2 is for intake and exhaust but mostly intake

JoeBoxer 11-12-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootwoot (Post 553731)
I am worried the stage 2 tune may lean the mixture out a bit more.... perhaps a bit too much for my liking... Any dyno and AFR info?

I have a Stage 2 with no intake, i just a have a drop in filter and test pipe. Catback is coming soon but he will adjust it for you if you send the logs in.

Le86 11-13-2012 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchmaN (Post 553237)
yeah exactly, for the pull it would'nt be good cause i'm on winter tires with stud. With the tune now with all controls off even in fourth gear my tails gets happy on a WOT so its pretty dangerous. but be sure you gonna have a minimum of a sec of your 0-60.

To give you an idea i'm also beta testing Perrin tune which is not finish cause jeff found something wrong in the data reading with the intake and with even with that when I flash my car with it I droped .75/sec on my 0-60 from stock ecu. Go see the video of that but you will see that there's something wrong at the pull off. And FA20 tune I don't have that at all and i'm pretty sure ill drop another second from the unfinish Perrin tune.

0-60 run testing rev limiter - YouTube

Was this video with the Perrin or FA20 tune?

Also, I'm sure you have noticed the harsh rev limiter, cutting power and such on the stock tune. It really bothered me when I was at the track (drifting) and it would literally bounce off the limiter once and lost power unless I shift. My question now is: Do either of these tunes remove the power cut at rev limiter, or at least raise the limit?

WatchmaN 11-13-2012 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le86 (Post 553974)
Was this video with the Perrin or FA20 tune?

Also, I'm sure you have noticed the harsh rev limiter, cutting power and such on the stock tune. It really bothered me when I was at the track (drifting) and it would literally bounce off the limiter once and lost power unless I shift. My question now is: Do either of these tunes remove the power cut at rev limiter, or at least raise the limit?

That video is on Perrin, and the rev limiter is raised to 8000rpm, have to ask for cut off but pretty sure it would be doable.

WatchmaN 11-13-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTSEightysix (Post 554061)
Alright so fa20tune better launch I can see a 6.9 0-100kmh or 60mph hehe

Not bad .. Not bad at all

Yes pretty sure i will be in the 6s area, for sure i lost time with fail start. Don't forget sea level is also a factor. No promess but i might put by my summer tires a do another run cam in hand to show you guys and for my self lol cause i m curious to see how fast it is with FA20 tune.

travace 11-13-2012 07:30 AM

DO WANT

Opposed 11-13-2012 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTSEightysix (Post 554061)
Alright so fa20tune better launch I can see a 6.9 0-100kmh or 60mph hehe

Not bad .. Not bad at all

It would have to be better than that. Some auto mags have hit 6.2 0-60 mph stock. 20+ whp should cut that into the 5's for sure with a good launch.

ATL BRZ 11-13-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchmaN (Post 552983)
Jokes apart the FA20 tune is funtastick, and their sevice is on par with the tune, I highly recommend it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 553756)
I have a Stage 2 with no intake, i just a have a drop in filter and test pipe. Catback is coming soon but he will adjust it for you if you send the logs in.

Are there any good driving videos of the Stage 2 tune?

Mars2 11-13-2012 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opposed (Post 554190)
It would have to be better than that. Some auto mags have hit 6.2 0-60 mph stock. 20+ whp should cut that into the 5's for sure with a good launch.

0-100km/h is 0-62mph so you would have to change gear to third for that on OEM car.
That's why every test of 0 to 100 km/h are around 7,6 - 8 second in the euro mags

Opposed 11-13-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mars2 (Post 554267)
0-100km/h is 0-62mph so you would have to change gear to third for that on OEM car.
That's why every test of 0 to 100 km/h are around 7,6 - 8 second in the euro mags

Agreed, but not with the raised limiter. You can hit 62 in second.

WatchmaN 11-13-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opposed (Post 554267)
It would have to be better than that. Some auto mags have hit 6.2 0-60 mph stock. 20+ whp should cut that into the 5's for sure with a good launch.

To tell you the truth they said it but i've never seen it. Or maybe they are a lot better shifter than me lol. And yes 0-60 or 0-100 is done in second gear with the raise rev limiter at 8000rpm, it's all in the vidéo on perrin tune i've made.

Look at this guy he did about 9.5 on stock
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a3rBVXTs9g"]2013 Scion FR-S 0-60 mph speedometer (3k launch & 2nd gear chirp) - YouTube[/ame]

ATL BRZ 11-13-2012 07:39 PM

Video of the fa20club stage 2 would be great

Opposed 11-13-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchmaN (Post 555398)
To tell you the truth they said it but i've never seen it. Or maybe they are a lot better shifter than me lol. And yes 0-60 or 0-100 is done in second gear with the raise rev limiter at 8000rpm, it's all in the vidéo on perrin tune i've made.

I hear ya man. This is the only evidence I found a while back. Not sure if this was recorded with a V-box or not. 0-60 run starts at about 1:55.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPoZ1SC8uwk"]2013 Scion FR-S: A New Hope? - Ignition Episode 14 - YouTube[/ame]

Simmons 11-13-2012 10:14 PM

The best 0-60 I got so far is 6.1 with my Perrin tune. That is with a realy good launch and a fast shift.

Simmons

WatchmaN 11-14-2012 05:24 AM

Guess I don't have a choice then lol, i'll try to make you one as soon as I have a chance and if there's no snow.

WatchmaN 11-25-2012 03:45 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Ok so I want to do some logs to use with virtual dyno, And I did a 0-60 pull with my winter tire studed lol just for the kick of it, I did my launch at 3000rpm so I don't spin to much but it's not the best at taht rpm. But still with all taking into account I manage to do 6.7sec :thumbsup:

Here's my whp numbers on vitual dyno, FA20 and stock first and then Perrin(not optimised yet)

http://www.quebecbrz.com/forums/gall...5&image_id=273

xjohnx 11-25-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchmaN (Post 574059)

why do you have different tire sizes for the stock and fa20club runs?

WatchmaN 11-25-2012 06:22 PM

because fa20 run is done on winter tires lol

Sargy 11-26-2012 12:26 AM

is it me or in your first video did I hear something engage once 7k rpm hits?!

WatchmaN 12-07-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTSEightysix (Post 554061)
Alright so fa20tune better launch I can see a 6.9 0-100kmh or 60mph hehe

Not bad .. Not bad at all

So last week I did a few launch with FA20 tune, but still with winter tires(too lazy) lol and I did 6.5 two times.

Lauroness 12-08-2012 03:05 AM

So what do u purchase from the site and how does it work?

JoeBoxer 12-08-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lauroness (Post 597397)
So what do u purchase from the site and how does it work?

click the banner in my signature and if you have any questions feel free to PM me or FA20Club.com

Simmons 12-16-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmons (Post 555732)
The best 0-60 I got so far is 6.1 with my Perrin tune. That is with a realy good launch and a fast shift.

Simmons

I just did my best 0-60 of 5.84 with my Moto-East tune.

Simmons

specrar 06-06-2014 07:47 AM

After reading this thread .I went ahead and ordered the ecutek stage 2 tune from fa20club.has anyone has any bad experience from his stage 2 tune .cos after ordering he is not answering his emails and the his shop doesn't answer calls .I'm anxious as what to expect now that he has shipped goods .


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