Unlucky Tail light #3
 

I just got back from Jiu Jitsu only to notice that there is condensation inside my tail light. This isn't out of the ordinary; however, this is the 3rd time this has happened! I don't know what to do. The first time I got it replaced, I picked it up from the dealer and there was a dent in my car (which after a stressful conversation with the service manager was fixed). Then the replacement started condensing up. I didn't mind, I just took it up and got it replaced. This time is what drives me over the edge. I can not stand going up to the dealer every month for the same problem. I just need some opinions here cause I'm soooo stressed out. I understand that it is a faulty tail light and isn't the dealerships fault, but I've probably wasted $40+ on gas for how many times I've been up to the dealership.

From what I'm reading on other posts, it's not the tail light per say, but how tight the person installing the mounting bolts for the tail light makes it. Seems they're very brittle.

So do I just keep bringing the car up every month. It started with the LT, then LT replacement, then RT. The one that they replaced seems to be ok.... for now.

Yes, keep taking it back till they get it right. Can you think of any other options?

claiming it a lemon because of faulty tail light housings is a bit extreme dude. its not the car its the tail light housing assembly. just tell them hey it keep getting condensation please install it carefully and properly i here they cant be over tightened or they just start leaking. but claiming it a lemon is a bit extreme for a tail light. i mean if it was like a transmission issue or differential problem or brake system something that affects the entire car mechanically then yes, but a tail light wouldnt consider it a lemon the factory tail light housing must not be a great design.

Haha, I guess you're right, but it still getting a bit ridiculous. I can't tell you how many times I've been to the dealership to get something fixed or checked out. Like I said, I understand that it is a faulty tail light (unless the comment above is what the problem is), but that doesn't change the fact that I'm wasting my time and gas getting this car fixed every month. I'm a college student which means money and time are not things that I can afford to waste right now.

I really wasn't sure what the lemon law even was until I just read about it. I agree that would be kind of extreme. Thats why I was asking about it.

Thanks I'll keep that in mind and ask them to do a bit more careful job this time.

Not a problem thats why we are all here sir :thumbup:

I hope they can install it correctly for you so you dont need to keep being inconvenienced. im just patiently waiting on the permanent fix on the cricket HPFP :popcorn::sigh:

is your avatar the DTRL in the BRZ if so im jealous lol ;)

The DRLs are actually the strips above the fogs. The "boomerang" in the headlight comes on with the parking lights and headlights.

Thanks for all the help. I also have the chirp, but I'm waiting to see if TSB actually fixes the problem. It seems like the chirp just comes back. Also, I don't want to be the ginny pig for the dealer. I got the ECU TSB and it took them 4 days to fix it:(.

thats soo bad ass my lights when the ebrake is dropped are the inner bulbs.

yah my best friend works at Prestige Toyota of Kingston NY took a look at the TSB report.

They just replace the same part with the same junk that isnt working which is why the cricket returning to the HPFP bastard insects lol.

just make sure to take photos of the car before it goes in the shop so you can document if they try to fuck something up on you.

so far im not worried about the pump yet because no one has had engine fialure due to the fuel pump and its not been failing on people so its for now fine and the noise sucks. lol but at lest the TBS report says one thing its non detrimental to the fuel system or engine.

If the same dealer keeps giving you issues take it to another dealer.

Please do tell us how many times? Cant pay for gas but you purchase a 2013 sports car?

Haha, I knew someone would say this. Probably around 20 times in the past 4 months. Maybe even more, but I've done enough math and thinking for today.

20 times?!? :eyebulge:

I've got to hear this :popcorn:

So what did you make 20 trips for? Pro tip: keep a paper trail of each visit, the more detailed the better.

You know what screw it. I'm not doing anything else right now. So here it is... First time was for the tail light. Drove up to show them it (1), then they said I needed to make an appointment so I did for the next week (2). Drove up just so they could tell me they needed to order the tail light. Why did I have to make an appointment (3). Drove up to drop my car off (4). Drove up to pick the car up (5) Got home at around 8pm and noticed a dent in the trunk so I drove back up there (6). They said to bring it up in the morning so I did and "Talked" to them about the dent.(7) Got the dent fixed (8). A week later replacement for the TL condensed, brought it back up (9). Decided, screw it, lets get a bunch of stuff knocked out at once so I got the new ECU, my maintenance, and tail light fixed(10). They had a problem with the ECU and told me I had to bring my spare key up? (11) Still couldn't fix it so I had to bring my valet key up? (12) Drove to pick up rental car, which they finally decided to give me after 4 days of arguing with them that I need to be able to get to school and work.(13) They finally fixed my car and it picked it up and dropped off the rental car (14). A couple weeks later my car flashed on the low tire pressure warning which I brought up to show them and get them inflated. However, they told me they were too busy to take a look at them and I had to wait. Waited about 15 min and then I needed to leave cause I had to go back to school(15) ::Switched Dealers:: Brought the car up so that they could check for any leaks or holes, but it turns out that my previous dealer canceled my tire and rim insurance cause they said they never sold it to me :mad0260: (I was f***ing livid) so I went home. (16) Found my receipt called them up and gave them hell for what they did and told them I had proof that they sold me it. Went back to get my tires checked. (17)

Plus putting my deposit in. Buying the car. And picking up the car up after it was tinted which will get me to (20)

Wow, what a shit dealer!

(14-17) TMPS will go off when it gets colder and your tire psi drops, dont waste your time at the dealership just fill em up.

Ya I figured that was the case. Just wanted to make sure cause the light turned on and i filled them up and then the light turned on again.

Haha, I just read the rest of this... I wasted all my money on the car and then moved out of my parents house to finish school cause they moved to California.

Leave the op alone it's rude to count someone's pockets, no one knows his financial position. I'd be pissed as well if I had to go back and forth 20x @ 4+$ a gallon, Its not cheap. Not to mention my dealer is roughly 40 miles away from me. He could be doing that type of distance plus college books steal your bank account.. Bastards. 800$ a semester was bs

The cost of books is crap. And the buy-back program is such a scam. They switch to newer books about every 2 years. Can't wait for Grad school... I cant even imagine what those books will cost

unfortunately still a lot. my sister just graduated grad school a year or so ago and yah its still pocket raping. i know id get like 150$ back after spending 850 on books

I've seen people put them in the oven at like 200 degrees for 15min and then move the lens around over the sealent to smooth it out and seal it up. They apply it in a weavy manner from the factory so simply moving with around will spread it out and seal it. I live in AZ we do not have and humidity to cause that so I have not had the problem or attempted to fix it just what I have seen other people do.

I was thinking about getting aftermarket blacked out tail lights. Do you think that instead of just replacing the tail light for another one that they would consider pitching in the cost of the OEM tail light towards getting the aftermarket ones? I mean theres really no sense in them paying for a new TL if I'm thinking about switching them anyways. Just a thought

That's a good question im not sure I mean free TL from the dealer is nice but if you're going to change them and the aftermarkets don't condensate:thumbup: then go for it!

I was looking at these, but nobody has them on there car yet.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21679

Interesting might look good

Similar ones on Ebay they say Toyota 86 but we all know they will fit FR-S but they cost 500 usd

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True. A taillight with a condensation problem would never qualify for the lemon law in any state, simply because it doesn't meet the criteria.