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vh_supra26 11-05-2012 11:26 AM

Rumor: Scion FR-S TRD supercharger kit in development
 
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....on-fr-s-2d.jpg

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The Scion FR-S was just named the Hottest Sport Compact at the 2012 SEMA Show, and Toyota Racing Development (TRD) is apparently looking to make this car a little hotter. According to Car and Driver, TRD is close to coming up with a supercharger to fit to the car's 2.0-liter flat-four engine in order to squeeze out a little more performance. Currently, the FR-S produces 200 horsepower, but there's no guessing how much a supercharger could improve this figure.

With Subaru seemingly hard at work on a new turbo engine for the BRZ and even possibly a BRZ STI model, it is only logical for a force-fed FR-S to be in the works as well. Surprisingly, though, the report says that supercharger would be unique to the FR-S, but since the Scion and Subaru BRZ are mechanically identical, it isn't clear how this would be accomplished. TRD already offers plenty of upgrades for the FR-S such as exhaust, brake and suspension kits, and it offers a handful of superchargers for other models including the 5.7-liter V8 used in the Toyota Tundra and the 4.0-liter V6 used in the Tacoma.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/05/s...-kit-from-trd/

vh_supra26 11-05-2012 11:28 AM

Toyota Racing Development Looking Into Supercharger for Scion FR-S [2012 SEMA Show]
 
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...-S-626x382.jpg

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Scion and Toyota’s in-house performance division, Toyota Racing Development (TRD), are looking into adding a supercharger to the list of upgrade parts available to the FR-S, we’ve learned. Scion’s booth at SEMA this year is packed with several unique takes on the FR-S—included this trio of awesome FR-S customs—and many of the tricked-out sports coupes are equipped with aftermarket superchargers; plus, with “just” 200 hp, the FR-S is ripe for a power boost. Apparently, TRD agrees, and is looking to do something about it.

http://s0.2mdn.net/1565679/scion_logo_100x40.gif

TRD has a long history of offering supercharging options for many of Toyota’s corporate engines, so it’s a natural avenue for the brand to explore for its latest and sportiest offering. In addition, Scion knows its customers will be looking to bump the FR-S’s output, so it’s looking to enter the fray with a factory-warranted option. Already, TRD offers several upgrade parts for the FR-S that mirror those offered for the Toyota GT 86 (as the FR-S is known in other markets), including an exhaust, lowering springs, an intake, and a big-brake kit. So far no specifics are known about the possible supercharger kit, including how much power it would add; TRD also hasn’t confirmed whether its home-brew blower has been given the green light. If it is given the go-ahead, the supercharger add-on would make for the only factory-backed avenue for a forced-induction Scion FR-S, given how a production turbo model is off the table, at least for the U.S.

That said, we’re told that if it does happen, the supercharger likely will be unique to TRD and the FR-S, meaning it won’t be shared with Subaru. That said, the underhood similarities between the FR-S and the BRZ are undeniable, so it’s possible Subie owners could fit their cars with any supercharger designed to fit the Scion. Or not. We’ll have to wait and see what Scion and TRD come up with.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/toyota-...012-sema-show/

sillyboybmxer 11-05-2012 11:28 AM

would love love love an sti turbo version over a supercharger

switchlanez 11-05-2012 11:33 AM

One way they can try to enforce it to be unique to the FR-S is to only sell the kit according to VIN.

wrxgoose 11-05-2012 11:48 AM

would love to see this thing get some factory boost, especially since it'll be covered under warranty. all TRD parts are covered under warranty, right?

edit: i think i'd prefer to see a supercharger because of linear power. but that's just me



sorry, i'm on meds because of sickness, and mind is a little slower than usual right now.

gmookher 11-05-2012 11:56 AM

sorry, I cant remember the last TRD product I found NOT overpriced or Underperforming aftermarket...

DarkSunrise 11-05-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 539303)
sorry, I cant remember the last TRD product I found NOT overpriced or Underperforming aftermarket...

Probably has to do with CARB certification (expensive) and warranty. Aftermarket kits don't need to be concerned with those issues.

ThaBigUnit 11-05-2012 06:23 PM

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Actually it has already been made...I just came back from SEMA (was part of the Scion To SEMA group) and this car was revealed there and was announced it had the first actual production version of the TRD supercharger in it. No performance numbers were given nor the hood was never opened...

Synack 11-05-2012 06:30 PM

oooooo what's the yellow car on the right :eyebulge:

helloimgil 11-05-2012 06:34 PM

posted this in the other thread

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adoB1lRBoRc"]SEMA Scion FRS Unveiling - YouTube[/ame]

fast-forward to ~ 6:35 mark and at 6:45 he specifically says it will also be developed for the masses to use on the streets.

Beyer Subaru 11-05-2012 06:35 PM

So this would be like the TRD door stabilizers and intake sound changers that I already have for my BRZ?
Good luck to TRD if they manage to keep a blower to themselves that can actually make more powa and have factory fit/finish.

I would assume that as soon as it goes live, if it does, there's gonna be a hailstorm of orders for the part from all BRZ, FR-S and 86 owners interested.

Meh. Another rumor to add to the multitude of "source" rumors.

FR-Shadow 11-05-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 539303)
sorry, I cant remember the last TRD product I found NOT overpriced or Underperforming aftermarket...


I 100% agree a great example is the big brake kit..hmm $10k or $2-3K for other brands. I feel like people who are buying the TRD items are just buying the name brand and maybe the factory warranty in some cases. There are turbo kits out already for roughly $4-5K. So if I were to guess I bet that the TRD kit will be around $10-15K

SVTSHC 11-05-2012 06:50 PM

twiiiiiiiinnnnn scrooooolllllll :eyebulge:

Too bad it'll cost me my first born, so vortech it is.

86'd 11-05-2012 06:56 PM

Supercharger?

Here's a boring picture of a silver FR-S instead.

lol.

BobDigi5060 11-05-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FR-Shadow (Post 540205)
I 100% agree a great example is the big brake kit..hmm $10k or $2-3K for other brands. I feel like people who are buying the TRD items are just buying the name brand and maybe the factory warranty in some cases. There are turbo kits out already for roughly $4-5K. So if I were to guess I bet that the TRD kit will be around $10-15K

No it won't, $6-7k at the most with install.

BobDigi5060 11-05-2012 07:10 PM

At least 250hp is my guess, and if you want boost let Subaru built it....

Moshpit37 11-05-2012 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Synack (Post 540171)
oooooo what's the yellow car on the right :eyebulge:

That's that chop-top FR-S. No rear window or roof panel.
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/y...Z/_DSC0035.jpg
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/y...Z/_DSC0037.jpg

tachi1247 11-05-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaBigUnit (Post 540156)
Actually it has already been made...I just came back from SEMA (was part of the Scion To SEMA group) and this car was revealed there and was announced it had the first actual production version of the TRD supercharger in it. No performance numbers were given nor the hood was never opened...

all the reports coming from other news outlets stated that the car you pictured had a supercharger co developed with TRD. nothing about it being made by TRD and definitely nothing about production anything.

Synack 11-05-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Moshpit37 (Post 540255)

Looks like the guys who did the Tokyo Drift RX-7 got a hold of this bad boy. Looks good minus the super hardcore wheel tuck going on.

ozne99 11-05-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 86'd (Post 540227)
Supercharger?

Here's a boring picture of a silver FR-S instead.

lol.

LOL:word:

ozne99 11-05-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Moshpit37 (Post 540255)

I will never understand why people would do this to a car.

TheSt|G 11-05-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ozne99 (Post 540352)
I will never understand why people would do this to a car.

There is never a shortage of stupidity, but there is always a shortage of taste.

I'm always surprised anyone idiotic enough to do such a thing has managed to make enough money to make it happen. :sigh:

Demandred7 11-05-2012 08:16 PM

I found this the other day:

http://www.imotortimes.com/articles/...ger-slated.htm

Although being available to the public does not necessarily mean at a good price.

jabbajaw99 11-05-2012 09:15 PM

It looks as if the aftermarket is going to be cheaper. Would be interesting to see if there are any internal modifications or if the stock engine is used. To validate that the engine can handle the boost safely.

Xenocide117 11-05-2012 09:20 PM

A factory super charged release series might be a way to keep it unique to the FR-S.

goke186 11-06-2012 12:33 AM

the only reason I would buy a TRD S/C is to maintain my warranty, and that is the only reason.

Smokinbuffalo 11-06-2012 01:10 AM

A warrantied, emission legal, factory tuned option is worth a premium. If I remember correctly the '05 tC had. A supercharger worth about 40hp. Ran super rich.

Broz 11-06-2012 03:26 AM

I for one would be willing to pay a premium for S/C with warranty...

IMHO its easy to push the most amount of power for the dollar (Turbo)....but being stuck on the side of the road a year later with a blown motor isn't fun!

Based on my previous experience modding my 03 WRX with a bigger turbo, injectors, catless exhaust, tune (TurboXS stage4) which had lots of power ...but often inconsistent power...looking back a little too unpredictable for a daily driver.

But I learned as I went...as many do. But running that bigger turbo (and pushing the boost) and the inconsistency of power may (or may not have) caused boost spikes combined with a faulty boost gauge resulted in a blown connecting rod that put me back $4,000 (and back to stock) in a jiffy. Temperature changes, bad gas, big hills most likely all factored in at some point.

Forgive me for stating the obvious but for those new to modding something to consider.

knapper 11-06-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 539303)
sorry, I cant remember the last TRD product I found NOT overpriced or Underperforming aftermarket...

Not to mention the issues I suffered with my Scion tC SC. Was it under warranty? Sure, but I still spent the better part of a month having the dealership pull their heads out of their asses.

Snoopyalien24 11-06-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sillyboybmxer (Post 539248)
would love love love an sti turbo version over a supercharger

Silly you and your turbo lag

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 539303)
sorry, I cant remember the last TRD product I found NOT overpriced or Underperforming aftermarket...

But... WARRANTY!

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Originally Posted by ozne99 (Post 540352)
I will never understand why people would do this to a car.

I know right? Why not give em to me?

VADER 11-06-2012 05:25 PM

TRD Supercharger = Valid Warranty = SOLD!

Droptop 11-08-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaBigUnit (Post 540156)
Actually it has already been made...I just came back from SEMA (was part of the Scion To SEMA group) and this car was revealed there and was announced it had the first actual production version of the TRD supercharger in it. No performance numbers were given nor the hood was never opened...

No numbers or hood open= didn't happen which entails a stock Fr-s with shotty vinyl all over it. ;-)

frsinpa 11-08-2012 09:52 PM

This is definitely a buy..

also - there is some speculation that it could result in 60-70HP. what do you think?

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While there are too many variables to be accurate on estimate output, this would likely equate out to a 60 to 70-horsepower gain from a supercharger on top of the Scion’s engine.

For now, we are simply speculating, but a 270-horsepower, supercharged FR-S sure does sound like load of fun to us! We’ll keep a very close eye on this situation and get you updates as soon as they come out.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...-ar137381.html

NA_T 11-08-2012 10:24 PM

That would be awesome! And imho just what this engine needs, a little bit more torque from that supercharger.. Its going to be perfect!

Whiteoutjames 11-09-2012 11:31 AM

http://www.geekzenith.com/wp-content...-my-money.jpeg

JayNutter 11-09-2012 04:16 PM

Gotta wonder how much the gas mileage will suffer. My auto is averaging a hair under 30 mpg and I enjoy that. As much as I would love more power, I am on the fence about getting the TRD S/C. How often do you really need to kick down that much power? If I wanted a dragster I would have bought a Mustang GT for a couple grand more.

Orthow 11-09-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JayNutter (Post 548488)
Gotta wonder how much the gas mileage will suffer. My auto is averaging a hair under 30 mpg and I enjoy that. As much as I would love more power, I am on the fence about getting the TRD S/C. How often do you really need to kick down that much power? If I wanted a dragster I would have bought a Mustang GT for a couple grand more.

Did you really buy this car for gas mileage? I guess if you bought an auto you really didn't buy the car as a performance driver so in that case I'd suggest to you to stay away from a $5k minimum S/C. If you amortize that cost into your gas budget LOL you may as well be driving a pickup truck with a hole in the gas tank. And the S/C will not turn the car into a Dragster - think sub 13 seconds 1/4 mile times tops which is nothing to write home about. It will just make the car more fun light to light which is what this car requires hence the aftermarket scrambling to put together any sort of forced induction packages.

wrmathis 11-09-2012 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JayNutter (Post 548488)
Gotta wonder how much the gas mileage will suffer. My auto is averaging a hair under 30 mpg and I enjoy that. As much as I would love more power, I am on the fence about getting the TRD S/C. How often do you really need to kick down that much power? If I wanted a dragster I would have bought a Mustang GT for a couple grand more.

Don't floor and stay outta boost conditions the gas mileage should stay relatively the same. Once u get on it tho, it will drink the gas

Darryljr11 11-09-2012 04:59 PM

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...sema-2012.html

Braces 11-09-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wrmathis (Post 548560)
Don't floor and stay outta boost conditions the gas mileage should stay relatively the same. Once u get on it tho, it will drink the gas


Heck, past 5000 rpms and the car drinks plenty of gas.


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