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RaceR 11-05-2012 05:20 AM

Why you haven't bought the FR-S/86/BRZ yet?
 
I have not bought/ordered the GT86 due to a combination of all following reasons:

-Waiting for build quality and reliability to improve (guessing two years should sort out the most things)
-Hoping we will see improvement in torque or fuel consumption (less likely on that engine). Or another engine option becomes available.
-Waiting for TRD/STI version to be revealed in case that car would be much more desirable. Or just some cool special edition with some desirable parts/options/colors.
-Waiting for a more practical hatcback version to pop up. (yeah, not very likely)
-Saving up money (and paying down my house)
-Waiting for other cars to be revealed or improved upon that might be an option.
-Still happy with my car and have not owned it for much more than 6 months. I usually keep my DD between 1-2,5 years.
-Extented warranty will also last much longer on my current car. So cost and depreciation is not that large compared to a brand new car.

kendalldwhite 11-05-2012 08:51 AM

buy one, trade it in for a new one when the time comes

wrxgoose 11-05-2012 08:53 AM

i'm saving up so that my down payment + trading in the mini will mean i don't have very large monthly payments.

ExWhyZer0 11-05-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendalldwhite (Post 539068)
buy one, trade it in for a new one when the time comes

I plan on doing this.

kendalldwhite 11-05-2012 09:50 AM

by the time a new fr-s or brz comes out i will have this one almost payed off then i can trade in, I'm Thinking this would be a great idea! :)

mike18 11-05-2012 09:52 AM

for me, its the first reason u listed. i dont want to buy a new car that has lots of problems. i plan to get it next year though so hopefully they fix the huge issues by then.

CaptainSlow 11-05-2012 09:55 AM

Paying down bills to get credit score as high as possible before financing and pay down my current car as much as possible to get the best trade-in/sale value I can. Also want to get through the winter with my current car, since I know how it handles in the snow, I have snow tires for it already, and I won't be as paranoid to crash a brand new car.

I've already ordered the FR-S...just had them shoot for April delivery

RaceR 11-05-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kendalldwhite (Post 539068)
buy one, trade it in for a new one when the time comes

Car is about 80000 USD here. The two first years of ownership can be about 30% in deprecation. Which would equal 24000 USD. So ill wait and see what comes out.
Im in no rush.. :)

Aetyrno 11-05-2012 01:50 PM

Put a deposit down (BRZ) in April, cancelled in October.

Got tired of the runaround and delays (May turned into August, which turned into September-November, which turned into December, which turned into March.) Decided I don't need a second car since I walk or bike to work every day. Cancelled my order. No regrets.

Turbowned 11-05-2012 02:39 PM

Paying off credit cards first and saving up a bigger downpayment. Also, 6mo. wait on a BRZ order anyway :-(

#87 11-05-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aetyrno (Post 539514)
Put a deposit down (BRZ) in April, cancelled in October.

Got tired of the runaround and delays (May turned into August, which turned into September-November, which turned into December, which turned into March.) Decided I don't need a second car since I walk or bike to work every day. Cancelled my order. No regrets.

But you still post here. :)

You'll be back on the wagon soon enough :burnrubber:

nedmundo 11-05-2012 03:09 PM

Many of my reasons overlap with the OP's:

1. no first model year for me, even from Toyota or Subaru;
2. hoping for more power, or at least torque, in an upgraded FR-S or BRZ;
3. the Focus ST might be a better option because it could replace my TSX, and it's a fantastic drive with more power than the twins, so I have to consider it seriously (but not this year...see #1, above);
4. not the best time financially; and
5. related to #3, it couldn't replace either of our other cars, both of which do family duty, and we live in downtown Philadelphia where owning three cars is expensive and kind of a hassle.

Honestly, if I lived in the 'burbs, I'd probably do it next year and keep my TSX, but in the city it probably ain't happening.

Aetyrno 11-05-2012 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by #87 (Post 539641)
But you still post here. :)

You'll be back on the wagon soon enough :burnrubber:

True enough. I like the community (particularly my local group) and I like the car. Maybe I'll be in for a 2015.

Chi-Panda 11-05-2012 03:22 PM

I shouldn't buy it, but i probably will.

It's weird different dealerships are offering packages on the scion. Full red seats, white trim leather, painted vents, navi option? those are just some i ran across at a total of 5 dealers around NW suburbs of chicago.
Thoughts
1. I cant really afford one according to that damn financial show.
2. I'm scared the whiteouts will become more difficult to find.
3. I want to have some fun before the world ends... DEC 21 lol...
4. All the scions are AT around me so i will probably need to order a manual.

Razz 11-05-2012 03:48 PM

Waiting for the intake manifold, center console, steering wheel controls, and idle problems to be fixed.

whaap 11-05-2012 04:08 PM

I bought mine almost two months ago. I've identified a few items that I expect the manufacturer to make some improvements/changes to in the upcoming model year. I'm thinking there will be improvement in the seat belt attachment to the seat and I think they could/will do a better job with the third brake light. I'm hoping they broaden their production by offering a variety of features as options for the FR-S. If they do all the things I'm hoping they do, I might be trading mine in sooner than I normally would.

SUB-FT86 11-05-2012 04:12 PM

I think the OP have the same issues I have too.

White Shadow 11-05-2012 04:13 PM

Simple-- waiting for a factory turbo version. Don't worry, it's coming! And I have patience if it doesn't come as quickly as I think it will.

BioRage 11-05-2012 04:16 PM

Because my lease on my 2012 E350C isn't up till next year :(

SubarooMike 11-05-2012 04:20 PM

I'm in college and I fly. AV gas is $6 per gallon -- the Cessna 310 I fly holds 130 Gallons and little less then that usable -- you can do the math on how much my fill-ups cost:bonk:

iamkyle 11-06-2012 02:04 AM

Wanted to order since they were released. I finally convinced myself not to wait any longer and ordered a firestorm mt today

CSSM 11-06-2012 02:08 AM

Waiting until I graduate ;)

einzlr 11-06-2012 03:10 AM

Need to make room in the toybox :P Once at least one of the BMW's is sold I'll get on a waiting list. I don't want to tempt fate by doing it the other way around because I really can't manage any more cars than I already have :bonk:

Guff 11-06-2012 03:17 AM

I don't actually like the car, I'm just here for the chicks.

HOLLA @ette and @Giccin!!!!

I'd rather have a V6 Mustang, no doubt!

Giccin 11-06-2012 04:04 AM

Haven't bought the BRZ yet because of financial constraints and med school.. and possibly buying a house soon.

Rampage 11-06-2012 02:31 PM

I love the car. I like the look and the design philosophy. The few drawbacks like no rear leg room and ONLY 200 HP do not bother me in the least. I think it is great that Toyota is getting back into the sporty market. But..............................

I feel that it is $3000 overpriced (and I am talking MSRP)
I already have a sports car that is lighter, faster, handles better and is also a Toyota.
I have lots of $$$$$ in mods on said car and I do not want to start over modding with a FR-S


Still love the car and if I did not have the MR-S then I would have a FR-S despite the price.

Max Schnell 11-06-2012 03:27 PM

I am waiting for a FRS/BRZ spec that would not require drivetrain modifications for me to be happy with the performance. I am looking to replace the E36 M3 so I'd like at least that level of performance in the straight line as the handling on the FRS is satisfactory.

I have extensively modded a past car for increased engine performance and has no desire to do that again after the experience.

M-17 11-06-2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 541102)
I don't actually like the car, I'm just here for the chicks.

HOLLA @ette and @Giccin!!!!

I'd rather have a V6 Mustang, no doubt!


Blasphemy! :lol:

SUB-FT86 11-06-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Schnell (Post 541960)
I am waiting for a FRS/BRZ spec that would not require drivetrain modifications for me to be happy with the performance. I am looking to replace the E36 M3 so I'd like at least that level of performance in the straight line as the handling on the FRS is satisfactory.

I have extensively modded a past car for increased engine performance and has no desire to do that again after the experience.

I 1000% agree with you. I believe in buying a car with a engine I like the performance of instead of modding. I rather mod other areas like handling and wheels and tires. If I feel like I have to mod the engine that car is not for me.

pr086 11-06-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 542199)
I 1000% agree with you. I believe in buying a car with a engine I like the performance of instead of modding. I rather mod other areas like handling and wheels and tires. If I feel like I have to mod the engine that car is not for me.

that is the opposite thought process of the people who made and designed this car.

to them, power is easy to add. a good chasis/balance/handling characteristic is a lot harder to mod into a car.

ette 11-06-2012 05:18 PM

Mainly waiting because I just bought my current car this year and because I want to wait and see what the next year or so has to offer. I also don't really want to jump into steep payments before I finish school and have the career I've been working towards. It's going to happen eventually though. Just one more thing to look forward to.

SUB-FT86 11-06-2012 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr086 (Post 542208)
that is the opposite thought process of the people who made and designed this car.

to them, power is easy to add. a good chasis/balance/handling characteristic is a lot harder to mod into a car.

I dont think modding a engine is easy either. You can blow 6k on a f/i kit and still blow up your engine 1-2 years later.


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