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Nardi330 10-31-2011 08:42 AM

Scion FR-S / FT-86 / Subaru BRZ Specs and Options. 200hp / 151 lb-ft tq
 
4 Attachment(s)
Scans from a training manual.

Power/weight:

HP: 147kw (200ps) / 200hp @7000rpm
Torque: 205nm (151 lb/ft) @ 6600rpm
Weight:
  • 2662 ponds (1210kg) for base manual (~ 2580 lbs dry weight)
  • 2706 pounds for higher trim manual

Columns:
First 2 column are for "small FR sport", column 1 is a higher spec model, column 2 is a lower spec model. 3rd column is Mx5/Miata, 4th is RX8 and last is CRZ. It's a comparison chart.

Top Section:

The top section is the dimension in mm, length width height wheelbase, ground clearance then number of seats. Next is weight.
Top spec manual is 1230kg, auto is 1250kg.
Low spec manual is 1210kg, auto is 1230kg.
Then its turning radius.
High spec rides on 17" wheels and low spec on 16.

Second Section:
This section is engine. Boxer 4 DOHC, 1998cc. Output as listed on 1st post above. Drinks premium unleaded and 50L fuel tank.

Fuel consumption base model:
13 km/l
30.58 mpg
49.21 kmg

Fuel consumption top model:
12.4 km/l
29.17 mpg
46.94 kmg

Third Section:
This section is front engine/rear drive, transmission type, suspension type, brake then tyre size.

High spec brakes: ventilated discs front and rear.
Low spec brakes: ventilated front, non ventilated rear.

Last Section:
Last section is equipment which is not that easy to understand. First thing I notice is top spec has LSD for manual and auto while low spec only has LSD on manual. I'll post more if I can read more.


More update:

Both spec have VSC, front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. Top spec has front LED, leather steering wheel, 6 speakers audio (low spec has 2 speakers), white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. Top spec also has "smart entry and start".


MORE THINGS OF NOTE:


Strut front, double wishbone rear suspension
Base halogens, optional HIDs on base trim, standard HIDs on high trim
LSD on all MT cars
Stability control standard
Only 2 speaker audio on base car

High Spec:
  • Has "high-quality fabric" (上級ファブリック).
  • Option for leather heated seats with Alcantara inserts.
  • Steel door sill insert / scuff plate (ステンレス製ドアスカッフプレート)
  • Interior metallic door handle inserts
  • Carbon fiber center console trim
  • Door courtesy light
  • Knee pad on console

The "Customize Grade" at the bottom is interesting:
  • the "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg !!
  • Unpainted bumper
  • 16 steelies (says ornament-included, guessing it includes the logo)
  • plastic steering wheel
  • NO A/C (only a heater)
  • Power door locks
  • Sunvisor (no vanity mirror)
  • No speakers

the car in fact does require premium unleaded gas (無鉛プレミアム)
the rear seat is one piece and is foldable (一体可動式)
did anyone mention that the high spec model comes with a digital speedo and tachometer? (デジタルスピードメーター revメーター)



Here are translated charts (by our members Spaceywilly and dimension6!!)

Attachment 2424

Attachment 2425


Training manual images:

Attachment 2411

Attachment 2412

zigzagz94 10-31-2011 08:55 AM

hey ichi can you translate the spec sheet for us?

200ps and 1200 kg is not bad could have been alot worse

kaivo 10-31-2011 08:59 AM

13.0 km/liter ? damn high or what .

Nardi330 10-31-2011 09:00 AM

First 2 column are for "small FR sport", column 1 is higher spec, column 2 is lower spec. 3rd column is Mx5/Miata, 4th is RX8 and last is CRZ. It's a comparison chart.

The top section is the dimension in mm, length width height wheelbase, ground clearance then number of seats. Next is weight. Top spec manual is 1230kg, auto is 1250kg. Low spec manual is 1210kg, auto is 1230kg. Then its turning radius. High spec rides on 17" wheels and low spec on 16.

I'll try to figure out more and post here.

More:

Next section is engine. Boxer 4 DOHC, 1998cc. Output as listed on 1st post above. Drinks unleaded and 50L fuel tank.

Then it's fuel consumption.

Next is front engine/rear drive, transmission type, suspension type, brake then tyre size.

Next section is equipment which is not that easy to understand. First thing I notice is top spec has LSD for manual and auto while low spec only has LSD on manual. I'll post more if I can read more.

More update:

Both spec have VSC, front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. Top spec has front LED, leather steering wheel, 6 speakers audio (low spec has 2 speakers), white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. Top spec also has "smart entry and start".

zigzagz94 10-31-2011 09:03 AM

Thanks Nardi. It's looking more and more like a rwd DC2 type R and that'a good thing

Nardi330 10-31-2011 09:23 AM

Yeah. The only remaining puzzle are the name and the price.

There is even 1 spec that comes in unpainted bumpers and steel wheels!!

Nambo 10-31-2011 09:26 AM

Looks like the lower spec won't have the switches and digital tacho like the GT-R, and the bare bone spec is ideal for the track. Cheers Nardi for sharing this :)

czar07 10-31-2011 09:28 AM

haha awesome. i believe the non painted bumpers and steel wheels one is for people who want to take it drifting and want their own wheels and stuff. pretty good idea

Nardi330 10-31-2011 09:31 AM

A bit like the FD2 Civic Type R where they offered a bare bone car. Only front dash, driver seat (basic style), steering wheel, 4 door trims and nothing else!!

tranzformer 10-31-2011 09:53 AM

So 197hp/151tq in a car that weighs 2662lbs with a nice interior and exterior? Sign me up and take my money Toyobaru. :)

ForReal-Someday 10-31-2011 09:55 AM

Looks like we might be getting the tuner model after all!

86er|n2 10-31-2011 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 68550)
So 197hp/151tq in a car that weighs 2662lbs with a nice interior and exterior? Sign me up and take my money Toyobaru. :)


actually its 2711lbs with the "nice interior"
also note that the nicer ne has what look like steering wheel controls and interior options for red or black and basic ones have only all black clusters with no shift light or digi gauge

I think the 16s look nicer than the 17s that the mule has been running aroun on though

http://www.motorindustry.org/wp-cont...2011/10/72.jpg

no_name 10-31-2011 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaivo (Post 68536)
13.0 km/liter ? damn high or what .

That's on the japanese testing cycle so I'd wait to see what the EPA gives it.

Moolz 10-31-2011 10:15 AM

Different headlights for the fully specced model ;o

SUB-FT86 10-31-2011 10:17 AM

Torque is way too high. But thats to be expected anyways.

fred_boosted 10-31-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 68544)
A bit like the FD2 Civic Type R where they offered a bare bone car. Only front dash, driver seat (basic style), steering wheel, 4 door trims and nothing else!!

Thats not going to happen in USDM to have a bare bone choice.

Last two things I'm thining is first the price (Hopefully it will be 25K-28K USD and maybe 22K-23K USD for bare bone car).

Second, the brakes. According to the price, there will no front 4 and rear 2 big brake kits. I do have a set of EVO X brembo brakes but it will need lots of modification to do to make them fit, which may not worth to.:iono:

Nardi330 10-31-2011 10:26 AM

No mention of brembo so I doubt very much. But the type of rear disc is diff between high and low spec. Unfortunately I don't understand what it say.

fred_boosted 10-31-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaivo (Post 68536)
13.0 km/liter ? damn high or what .

Its 12.4 liter/KM

which convert to MPG is 19 MPG.

Not that bad...

Could be 16 city /25 or 26 HWY MPG

fred_boosted 10-31-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nardi330 (Post 68560)
No mention of brembo so I doubt very much. But the type of rear disc is diff between high and low spec. Unfortunately I don't understand what it say.

Thanks, for brake disc you could get a set of nice after market one for cheaper price than OEM.

However, I really like high spec tacho meter, but want bare bone wheels and seats. :sigh:

keiri 10-31-2011 10:29 AM

There are two ways I see this playing out based on this leaked information:

Scenario one has Subaru selling the "top-spec" model with choice of options here in the United States for around 28k while Scion sells the "low-spec" model with 16s and the plain interior for about 22~24k base before you pay for "extras".

Scenario two has Subaru again selling the "top-spec" model with all of the choice options (steering wheel mounted buttons, aluminum door sills, etc.) pre-installed for 28k base but Scion also sells the "top-spec" model, like the Subaru, but with far fewer options pre-installed at 22~24k but available for purchase at a ridiculous mark-up.

We'll see.

Nardi330 10-31-2011 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_boosted (Post 68562)
Thanks, for brake disc you could get a set of nice after market one for cheaper price than OEM.

However, I really like high spec tacho meter, but want bare bone wheels and seats. :sigh:

Remember this is just JDM spec which maybe diff to what u get. Your wish might just come true....

mkivalex 10-31-2011 10:44 AM

I have a feeling there will be alot of "Cool" add ons since scion is known for doing that,

I mean for the TC you can get TRD big brakes, so im sure for the FRS that will be an option as well.

HiGh GrAvltY 10-31-2011 10:48 AM

I can't wait to get me one of these, but I wonder how long it will take for people to start selling diff head/tail light options and what not. Maybe I am getting ahead of myself.

tranzformer 10-31-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86er|n2 (Post 68552)
actually its 2711lbs with the "nice interior"
also note that the nicer ne has what look like steering wheel controls and interior options for red or black and basic ones have only all black clusters with no shift light or digi gauge

I think the 16s look nicer than the 17s that the mule has been running aroun on though

http://www.motorindustry.org/wp-cont...2011/10/72.jpg


Right, add about 50lbs for the "nicer" interior but I assume the base interior would be nice enough.

dalli 10-31-2011 10:54 AM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...9&d=1320069305

if u go to the bottom of spec sheet, where under each car it lists a number

5(high spec) 2(low spec) 4(mx-5?) 4(rx-8) 2(crz)

what does those numbers mean?

edit:

someone is a wizard!

tranzformer 10-31-2011 11:01 AM

So with all of this JDM info being leaked, does that mean USDM info could be leaked early as well?

Nambo 10-31-2011 11:02 AM

Haven't seen this page of the document before, thinking it's just been photoshop as the background changes colours too.

http://f.cl.ly/items/3M0e2F1D3z3B3b2m3u3E/26.jpg

Same source as the OP.

fred_boosted 10-31-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkivalex (Post 68568)
I have a feeling there will be alot of "Cool" add ons since scion is known for doing that,

I mean for the TC you can get TRD big brakes, so im sure for the FRS that will be an option as well.


I just checked scion's website.

$1675 for a set of big brake kit is not bad. It may not as good as brembo. But with SS brake line, new brake fluid and drilled or slotted disc. It will good enough for me.

Thanks for the info.

dalli 10-31-2011 11:05 AM

I like what i see, if this is all true ( not on some things)

I will get this car, im only 19 yr old and have 7k saved up ( i even loaned some to my dad!!)

Ill have 15k for this car when it comes out OH YE BABY

mkivalex 10-31-2011 11:06 AM

^^ Good job man

Buggy51 10-31-2011 11:06 AM

So much leakage.... Toyota needs a new plumber :P

VenomRush 10-31-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nambo (Post 68574)
Haven't seen this page of the document before, thinking it's just been photoshop as the background changes colours too.

http://f.cl.ly/items/3M0e2F1D3z3B3b2m3u3E/26.jpg

Same source as the OP.

they made my blue:wub:.... take my damn money now!!!

no_name 10-31-2011 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_boosted (Post 68561)
Its 12.4 liter/KM

which convert to MPG is 19 MPG.

Not that bad...

Could be 16 city /25 or 26 HWY MPG

Not bad? Maybe in for a 2.0L NA in 1995! Also your math is bad.

12.4 km/L is 29mpg. 12.4 L/100km is 19 mpg. You did the wrong conversion.

However Japan's 10-15 testing cycle is usually quite generous.

tranzformer 10-31-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_boosted (Post 68561)
Its 12.4 liter/KM

which convert to MPG is 19 MPG.


Could be 16 city /25 or 26 HWY MPG

Sorry you are wrong. No it is 12.4 km/l or 13.0km/l. Just think what you wrote, it cant take 12.4 liters (3 gallons) to go 1km (.5 mile).

The real fuel economy comes out to about 30mpg but have to wait for the EPA to do their thing.

speed-wiz 10-31-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred_boosted (Post 68561)
Its 12.4 liter/KM

which convert to MPG is 19 MPG.

Not that bad...

Could be 16 city /25 or 26 HWY MPG

12.4 kilometers per liter = 29 miles per gallon.

fred_boosted 10-31-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalli (Post 68577)
I like what i see, if this is all true ( not on some things)

I will get this car, im only 19 yr old and have 7k saved up ( i even loaned some to my dad!!)

Ill have 15k for this car when it comes out OH YE BABY


Listen kid.

Go get a job. And use your save up as a down payment. You will happy about what you are going to do and your dad will be proud of you.

tranzformer 10-31-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenomRush (Post 68581)
they made my blue:wub:.... take my damn money now!!!

And it looks great too!

Spaceywilly 10-31-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buggy51 (Post 68579)
So much leakage.... Toyota needs a new plumber :P

I'm starting to think Toyota might be leaking these intentionally to drum up publicity. Not that I'm complaining... this makes the wait til Nov 30 a lot easier.

Can anyone confirm that these specs are the same for the BRZ?

no_name 10-31-2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 68587)
Can anyone confirm that these specs are the same for the BRZ?

The weight may be slightly different but I can confirm without knowing anything that these specs are the same for the BRZ.

fred_boosted 10-31-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no_name (Post 68582)
Not bad? Maybe in for a 2.0L NA in 1995! Also your math is bad.

12.4 km/L is 29mpg. 12.4 L/100km is 19 mpg. You did the wrong conversion.

However Japan's 10-15 testing cycle is usually quite generous.

http://calculator-converter.com/l_10...per_100_km.php

I found it here.

Not sure about different standard


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