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TSY 10-28-2012 04:10 PM

Kenwood CMOS-210 Backup Camera Install
 
Thanks to everyone to posted on how to install a backup camera- made my install MUCH EASIER!!!

Most of how to do this has already been posted. I got the pass through harness from SVXdc- Thanks David! He was quite helpful with my questions about the install.

I thought I'd post some pics for those who are interested.


Kenwood CMOS-210:
Nicely made. Aluminum body. made in Japan. No parking lines and the image is reversed, so it's just plug and play. The RCA connector and power wires come off the combined harness at the same location at the HU end of the harness, so my plans to power the camera from the back of the car would not work.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psf5a42082.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psfec36057.jpg


So I used a posi-tap to tap into the HU 12v ACC wire. The camera comes with an in-line 2amp fuse.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psc004fac5.jpg

Then just ran the harness wire to the back of the car and installed it like everyone else. I made a very small round notch in the trunk fascia for the wire to pass through. Kind of hard to see.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psb9ac836e.jpg

Pics of the camera from the back of the car.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4c48438e.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psbaac4f5a.jpg

Screen shot during the day and night. The picture is quite bright at night and it's easy to see. Camera quality is of course very good. I set the parking lines to "G 5dr" which other than the up/down settings appear to be right on. What's nice about this camera is I was able to adjust the angle so that it's perfect.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/...psc824c571.jpg

[IMG]http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj498/tomsyang/2013%20BRZ%20Limited%20SWP/Backup%20Camera/s_zps7***b86c.jpg[/IMG]


Pretty simple install. I'd say the hardest part was pulling the camera wire/connector through the rubber sleeve/hose from the trunk lid to the trunk. If I had to do it again I'd lubricate that sleeve with something first! And I would cover the console and shifter with a towel to protect everything as you're trying to pull the radio out. The radio as it's coming out can rest on the shifter knob and I got a little scratch on mine.

SVXdc 10-28-2012 06:45 PM

Thanks for posting those pics!

Here are some larger pics of the Kenwood CMOS-210 camera on Sonic Electronix:
http://i.seimg.net/images/933280/main/cmos210.jpg http://i.seimg.net/images/933428/main/cmos210.jpg http://i.seimg.net/images/933432/main/cmos210.jpg (click each image to see a larger version)
SE's product page for the CMOS-210

inimitable 10-29-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TSY (Post 524947)
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Pretty simple install. I'd say the hardest part was pulling the camera wire/connector through the rubber sleeve/hose from the trunk lid to the trunk. If I had to do it again I'd lubricate that sleeve with something first! And I would cover the console and shifter with a towel to protect everything as you're trying to pull the radio out. The radio as it's coming out can rest on the shifter knob and I got a little scratch on mine.

Thanks a lot for this.

Install looks good. Nice work!

One of these days, I'm gonna do one of these myself...

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developer 11-06-2012 06:03 PM

I have the parts and I will be doing the install as soon as dealer gets my GPS fix done, but I have some questions about how you did your install.

Where are you running the cable inside the car from the navigation system to the trunk?

I have looked at my BRZ Limited's trunk lid, I didn't see anywhere to feed the wire from inside the trunk lid to the outside. Did you just drill a small hole from the inside to the outside? If so how did you prevent moisture from getting into the trunk?

TSY 11-06-2012 09:45 PM

I didn't repeat all the steps of the install as others have already done this.

From the trunk fascia when you remove it (Carefully! Don't scratch your trunk!) in the limited there's a wire from the electronic trunk release. It runs through a hole in the center of the trunk lid. There's a grommet that I had to carefully trim (to not cut the wires) and make room for the camera wire to run through. Then you just put the grommet back in. It's tucked way up so I doubt much water will get there to leak. I suppose if you shot a stream of water up at the license plate lights it could leak- but again I doubt it.

If none of this makes sense I'll after you read the writeups some of the other guys have done then just PM me and I'll try to find them for you.

Good luck!

developer 11-06-2012 11:09 PM

I searched a little harder this time and found some of the other installs for the BRZ. I have my project for the weekend! :thanks:

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Originally Posted by TSY (Post 542760)
I didn't repeat all the steps of the install as others have already done this.

From the trunk fascia when you remove it (Carefully! Don't scratch your trunk!) in the limited there's a wire from the electronic trunk release. It runs through a hole in the center of the trunk lid. There's a grommet that I had to carefully trim (to not cut the wires) and make room for the camera wire to run through. Then you just put the grommet back in. It's tucked way up so I doubt much water will get there to leak. I suppose if you shot a stream of water up at the license plate lights it could leak- but again I doubt it.

If none of this makes sense I'll after you read the writeups some of the other guys have done then just PM me and I'll try to find them for you.

Good luck!


TSY 11-06-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by developer (Post 542916)
I searched a little harder this time and found some of the other installs for the BRZ. I have my project for the weekend! :thanks:


You're welcome! Just set aside 4 hours to do it and take your time.

As for running the wire back from the HU, there are some wires under the driver's side dash that I just zip tied the camera wire to. I ran this down the side to the door sill. If you start from the back of the door sill you can remove it pretty easily. Run the camera wire back with the factory wiring in the door sill and run it back into the trunk and you're set.

Remember, zip ties are your friend. You'll need quite a few of them.
Also, like I said in my post, running the wire through the rubber tube from the trunk lid to the trunk is a real pain! If I had to do it again I'd probably just cut the camera wire and just reconnect everything after passing it through the tube.

It's definitely worth doing and I feel much better about not hitting things when I back up!

chadstyle 11-28-2012 11:24 PM

Wow, 4 hours?!?!? I have never spent more than 45 minutes for a full install with soldered connections and run with factory harness. I couldn't imagine it ever taking that long...

Norkoastal 11-29-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chadstyle (Post 580461)
Wow, 4 hours?!?!? I have never spent more than 45 minutes for a full install with soldered connections and run with factory harness. I couldn't imagine it ever taking that long...

Taking your time to run wires, tap power, and zip tie everything secure will take at least two hours for the non professsional.. I got a rydeen installed in three hours on a first time install. Love the auto turn on and adjustable arrows..

chadstyle 11-29-2012 04:59 PM

Oh trust me I'm familiar with the procedure I've installed hundreds over the years..that's why I was so surprised to hear 4 hours.

davesrave 01-10-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chadstyle (Post 580461)
Wow, 4 hours?!?!? I have never spent more than 45 minutes for a full install with soldered connections and run with factory harness. I couldn't imagine it ever taking that long...

Thanks, so in your opinion, how long do you think it would take for a professional to install a backup camera in a BRZ assuming that they have the SVXd cable, the BOGO or Rydeen camera and reasonably good instructions?

chadstyle 01-10-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by davesrave (Post 657275)
Thanks, so in your opinion, how long do you think it would take for a professional to install a backup camera in a BRZ assuming that they have the SVXd cable, the BOGO or Rydeen camera and reasonably good instructions?

I'd say any decent shop that knows what they're doing shouldn't spend more than 1 hour on the install. Mine is in the factory location, wires ran with the factory harness all the way up to the dash and I used the SVX plug as well to keep it clean. The SVX plug has a 6V DC output that I didn't think would power the 12V rydeen camera I installed but it works perfect at 6V with no issues at all. I've heard that many other 12V cameras work fine with 6V also so don't waste time trying to hint down a 12V ignition feed.

Hope this helps.

TSY 01-12-2013 05:58 AM

@chadstyle

Really??? Wow, you're great. :threadjacked:


For those of us who don't install stereos for a living and want everything to be perfect without breaking anything in our new cars, setting aside more time than needed is a good idea. I find when I rush projects mistakes get made and it doesn't turn out perfect.

I never said I took 4 hours to install it. I just said set aside 4 hours. Or get it professionally installed and let them break parts of your car. (yes, it does happen)

Otherwise, for others who might appreciate my install, I will say after several months of using it it's definitely worth it. The picture quality is very very good and the night vision is also really easy to see. Better than a lot of factory backup cameras.

chadstyle 01-12-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TSY (Post 660487)
@chadstyle

Really??? Wow, you're great. :threadjacked:


For those of us who don't install stereos for a living and want everything to be perfect without breaking anything in our new cars, setting aside more time than needed is a good idea. I find when I rush projects mistakes get made and it doesn't turn out perfect.

I never said I took 4 hours to install it. I just said set aside 4 hours. Or get it professionally installed and let them break parts of your car. (yes, it does happen)

Otherwise, for others who might appreciate my install, I will say after several months of using it it's definitely worth it. The picture quality is very very good and the night vision is also really easy to see. Better than a lot of factory backup cameras.

I'm not knocking you. I'm simply stating how long it takes for someone with experience. I didn't break one single clip or part during the install and it looks as clean as factory the way the wires are routed within the factory harness. I'm pretty sure he asked how long would it take if he had a professional do the job, did he not? I answered that with a realistic time frame so he doesn't get screwed when shopping for the best shop and price.

TSY 01-12-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chadstyle (Post 580461)
Wow, 4 hours?!?!? I have never spent more than 45 minutes for a full install with soldered connections and run with factory harness. I couldn't imagine it ever taking that long...

Umm, this is what you said. I suppose I could be interpreting it wrong, but this is quite condescending whether it was your intention or not, as well as misleading someone who may have minimal experience taking the inside of their car apart.

I think it's easy enough to do if you take your time. Rushing it won't help and telling someone it's only 45" AT MOST is not helping them and just making them feel lame- I posted this for DIYers, not professional installers.

chadstyle 01-12-2013 03:50 PM

There's a HUGE difference between 45 minutes and 4 hours. I'm not telling anyone to "rush" anything. If you're DIY then take 2 weeks for all I care, its your time not mine. I was just surprised that it took 4 hours when the car is so little and running the wires takes only a few minutes.

You also made a comment that it was a pita to pass the wire through the trunk grommet and if you had to do it over you would cut the plug then re attach. I would never recommend this to anyone without tons of experience soldering, heat shrinking, and knows about video signal and shielded wires etc..these are small wires that the majority of people will screw up. I'd suggest a passing a long zip tie through the grommet from the opposite direction and then electrical tape the plug to the zip tie nice and tight and pull it through. A little soap helps them slide if they're sticking. I installed a Rydeen camera on my BRZ and I didn't need to use these techniques as the plug passed through the grommet with no issues at all but if someone is having a hard time I would offer that advice instead of cutting the plug off.

Lastly, if you're not a professional then why would you be writing a how to for other diy'ers? Blind leading the blind...

mikeg7827 01-13-2013 12:07 AM

damn, nice install... however im always worried about these aftermartket rearview cameras with the hex/screw adjustment... i can just imagine someone trying to steal the camera or just screwing with the angle

i hope you enjoy yours for many years!

TSY 01-13-2013 03:47 PM

@chadstyle

Dude, you're the one who started hating on my install and what I did. You should be nicer about what you say in someone else's post.

And, um, how many DIY'ers are professionals? I wasn't telling people how to install the camera (this was done in other posts) I was just showing my own install so people can see how this camera looks to help people who have the skills to install something simple like this BUT DON'T DO IT EVERYDAY BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER JOBS.

I'm just trying to be helpful to people dude just like I've benefited from others. I'd appreciate it you didn't keep insulting me (Blind leading blind, reallly???)

TSY 01-13-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeg7827 (Post 661596)
damn, nice install... however im always worried about these aftermartket rearview cameras with the hex/screw adjustment... i can just imagine someone trying to steal the camera or just screwing with the angle

i hope you enjoy yours for many years!

Yeah, I know what you mean. But what can you do? They could key your car and break your windows too. Some people really suck, you know?

dammitcubs 02-26-2013 03:29 PM

this is a must. if i buy this car. AN ABSOLUTE MUST!!!

TSY 02-26-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dammitcubs (Post 758636)
this is a must. if i buy this car. AN ABSOLUTE MUST!!!

It totally makes backing up so much easier! And this camera is so clear night and day- awesome.

My Acura has a factory backup camera- it's awful compared to this one.

dammitcubs 02-26-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TSY (Post 759189)
It totally makes backing up so much easier! And this camera is so clear night and day- awesome.

My Acura has a factory backup camera- it's awful compared to this one.

How much did it cost?

TSY 02-27-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dammitcubs (Post 759275)
How much did it cost?

I paid about $135 at the time. It's about $140-150 now. It really is nicely made, but it does cost more.

dammitcubs 02-27-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TSY (Post 761951)
I paid about $135 at the time. It's about $140-150 now. It really is nicely made, but it does cost more.

I just hate doing the work. I'm a lazy man. LOL

TSY 02-28-2013 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dammitcubs (Post 761975)
I just hate doing the work. I'm a lazy man. LOL

LOL. Well, that's why you can hire someone to do it! :thumbup:

Sensisnow 04-03-2013 01:00 AM

I just ordered this same camera through Amazon and noticed that it lists the operating voltage as 14.4V (9.0 - 16 V allowable). Were you able to use the normal 6v harness from SVXdc, or did you have to tap into a 12v source somewhere?

TSY 04-03-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sensisnow (Post 837625)
I just ordered this same camera through Amazon and noticed that it lists the operating voltage as 14.4V (9.0 - 16 V allowable). Were you able to use the normal 6v harness from SVXdc, or did you have to tap into a 12v source somewhere?

No I had to tap a 12v source and the wiring to power the camera is back up at the head unit, so you'll have to tap a wire from the harness which is pretty easy.

pulling the wire through the rubber tubing at the trunk is a major pain- I would suggest lubricating it first!!!

Good luck with the install!

tom

mtimney 06-16-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TSY (Post 837783)
No I had to tap a 12v source and the wiring to power the camera is back up at the head unit, so you'll have to tap a wire from the harness which is pretty easy.

OK...an old thread, but I have an important question....

Can you describe or post a photo that shows which wire you tapped into?
And, forgive this question but I don't know much about this stuff.... I know the camera will now come on when you go into reverse, but is the camera on all the time with this power tap? IF so, is that a bad thing?

TSY 06-19-2013 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mtimney (Post 1005191)
OK...an old thread, but I have an important question....

Can you describe or post a photo that shows which wire you tapped into?
And, forgive this question but I don't know much about this stuff.... I know the camera will now come on when you go into reverse, but is the camera on all the time with this power tap? IF so, is that a bad thing?

Hey sorry I missed your question.

The 3rd photo shows where I tapped the red (I think it's red and grey- you'll have to double check) 12v wire in the Headunit harness. That black cylindrical thing is a posi-tap which is connected to the red wire you see in the middle of the pic with the white label "ACC" on it.

As for the camera, I believe it is on all the time but I don't think it's a problem for the camera. I may be wrong on this however as it has been a while since I looked all this up.

Good luck!

Arrakis 07-15-2013 12:34 AM

Thanks for the info.
 
Hi TSY,

I like your camera setup. If you don't mind me asking, could you tell me if I need any additional adapter in order to install this Kenwood camera to the BeSpoke unit in my FRS? Thanks again!

TSY 07-15-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 1069457)
Hi TSY,

I like your camera setup. If you don't mind me asking, could you tell me if I need any additional adapter in order to install this Kenwood camera to the BeSpoke unit in my FRS? Thanks again!

I'm not sure about the FRS BeSpoke unit, for the Subaru Fujitsu headunit I got the adapter from SVXdc which has a video RCA input that the Kenwood camera simply plugs into.

I don't know if the FRS has a video in? The Kenwood's video input is pretty standard.

Hope this helps some- Good luck!

ucsmfu 09-23-2013 04:10 PM

any drilling involved ?

TSY 09-26-2013 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ucsmfu (Post 1229266)
any drilling involved ?

Depends on your camera. some of them need to go through a drilled hole. This camera it was not necessary although I did file a tiny notch for the cable, but it wasn't necessary.

OICU812 04-22-2014 04:05 AM

Hmm wonder if this would be a plug and play can with the Kenwood DNN990HD with no tapping etc??? Hmmmmmm :)

b rawr z 12-10-2014 02:18 PM

bringing back an old post but i wanted to know what you did to mount the camera where its at in the picture if u didnt drill a hole. id appreciate any feedback.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSY (Post 1234785)
Depends on your camera. some of them need to go through a drilled hole. This camera it was not necessary although I did file a tiny notch for the cable, but it wasn't necessary.



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