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AGM6789 10-24-2012 06:46 AM

XXR 527 17x8.25 +35(front) 17x8.25 +25(rear) and 1 inch drop
 
Hey guys, I know there's a thread on these wheels already but I wanted to know if my proposed fitments would still be legal here in Victoria. I really like these wheels for the price, look and width. If i had the money, I'd be buying volk g25's.. As this will be my first time buying after market wheels, I want to get it right the first time and I am after a flush set up. Based on DarrenDrive's measurements, an 8 inch wide front wheel with +36 offset will be flush and an 8 inch wide rear wheel with +26 offset will also be flush on a 1 inch drop. So my proposed set up will stick out past the guards a tiny bit.. Is this still legal? Any thoughts on this guys? Should I lower a bit more? Camber? Someone educate me :) thanks in advanced

tibsy92 10-24-2012 06:53 AM

The most legal I could do in nsw was 19x9inch rims with lower profile tyres and no stretch..
And lowering it more is a nightmare a fellow cruiser here lowered his and everyone witnessed his epic under scratches on bumpy roads at least once through the drive.. anything more than an inch I believe isnt so wise on the 86

If it doesn't noticeably stick out by too much then should be fine, mine dont stick out much, maybe a quarter of my pinky nail tbh...

AGM6789 10-25-2012 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tibsy92 (Post 517074)
The most legal I could do in nsw was 19x9inch rims with lower profile tyres and no stretch..
And lowering it more is a nightmare a fellow cruiser here lowered his and everyone witnessed his epic under scratches on bumpy roads at least once through the drive.. anything more than an inch I believe isnt so wise on the 86

If it doesn't noticeably stick out by too much then should be fine, mine dont stick out much, maybe a quarter of my pinky nail tbh...

ah ok thanks for that mate, i didnt want to go any lower than 1 inch, I was just under the impression that wheels suck in more the lower you go.. I'm still new to wheels so please forgive me..
thinking of going 225, 45, 17 for tyres on 17x8.25, so theres just a little bit of stretch correct?
my proposed set up will stick out 7.6mm past the guards after an inch drop, will I still get done for that?

Nafe 10-25-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AGM6789 (Post 519212)
ah ok thanks for that mate, i didnt want to go any lower than 1 inch, I was just under the impression that wheels suck in more the lower you go.. I'm still new to wheels so please forgive me..
thinking of going 225, 45, 17 for tyres on 17x8.25, so theres just a little bit of stretch correct?
my proposed set up will stick out 7.6mm past the guards after an inch drop, will I still get done for that?

225 WILL NOT stretch on an 8.25in rim. 8.25inches is 202.125mm. a 225 tyre is 225mm wide.

AGM6789 10-26-2012 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nafe (Post 520795)
225 WILL NOT stretch on an 8.25in rim. 8.25inches is 202.125mm. a 225 tyre is 225mm wide.

Lol thanks dude, told you guys I'm new to wheels and stuff.. Any thoughts on how I can get the wheels not go past the guards? ..apart from getting a different set

BRZranger 10-26-2012 07:31 AM

^I think he's new to wheels. :D

a.beck 10-26-2012 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nafe (Post 520795)
225 WILL NOT stretch on an 8.25in rim. 8.25inches is 202.125mm. a 225 tyre is 225mm wide.

You mean they won't stretch /much/?

proficience 10-26-2012 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AGM6789 (Post 521404)
Lol thanks dude, told you guys I'm new to wheels and stuff.. Any thoughts on how I can get the wheels not go past the guards? ..apart from getting a different set

A few mm won't hurt dude. not worth sweating over imo. just get that set :P

Nafe 10-27-2012 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by a.beck (Post 521436)
You mean they won't stretch /much/?

No, I mean won't stretch at all. a tyre that is 225mm wide is WIDER than a rim that is 202mm wide.. It's basic maths.

a.beck 10-28-2012 12:40 AM

Hahaha... my bad, I totally read that backwards. Sorry!

giraffee 11-02-2012 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibsy92 (Post 517074)
And lowering it more is a nightmare a fellow cruiser here lowered his and everyone witnessed his epic under scratches on bumpy roads at least once through the drive.. anything more than an inch I believe isnt so wise on the 86

How much is it lowered by?

tibsy92 11-02-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by giraffee (Post 534092)
How much is it lowered by?

I think he had it lowered by 2 inches if I remember correctly..

Ben Stef 11-03-2012 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nafe (Post 520795)
225 WILL NOT stretch on an 8.25in rim. 8.25inches is 202.125mm. a 225 tyre is 225mm wide.

I have a feeling that's not how it works. As a 235 tyre fits on an 8.5" (212.5mm) rim with minimal stretch. If so you would tell me that the stock 215 tyres on the gts spec are at 8.5" with no stretch. The rim is actually 7" wide.

Nafe 11-04-2012 07:19 AM

a 235 isn't not stretched on an 8.5 in rim at all?!?! a 205 is flush on an 8in rim, and that's from me seeing it first hand.... I am not talking about what a rim/tyre dude would "recommend" i am talking about maths.

RyleyMA61 11-04-2012 05:37 PM

go measure four different tyres, all 225 sized.

they're not all 225mm in section width.

Tyre sizes vary between manufacturer. section width doesn't always mean the tyre is that size. It varies.

You can apply basic maths to the situation but it does vary slightly. You can crunch the numbers to give you a guide, but based on which tyre you choose, it may differ slightly.

Plus the differential between tyre section with and rim width will cause different tyre mounting points and different sidewall deflections, which will change your mounted tyre section width.

Something to think about ;)

ayau 11-09-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RyleyMA61 (Post 538155)
go measure four different tyres, all 225 sized.

they're not all 225mm in section width.

Tyre sizes vary between manufacturer. section width doesn't always mean the tyre is that size. It varies.

You can apply basic maths to the situation but it does vary slightly. You can crunch the numbers to give you a guide, but based on which tyre you choose, it may differ slightly.

Plus the differential between tyre section with and rim width will cause different tyre mounting points and different sidewall deflections, which will change your mounted tyre section width.

Something to think about ;)

This is correct. You can tell that two tires have different widths even if theyre both 215 just from looking at them.

AGM6789 11-10-2012 03:41 AM

thanks for the help guys, decided to go for it and order these wheels in chromium black so it comes in before my car comes in jan :)

just gotta decide on a set of tyres for daily driving with better grip than the oem ones and lasts a decent amount of k's without raping my wallet

Nafe 11-10-2012 05:10 AM

Oh I realise all of that already ;) That's what it is basic maths, not exact science ;)
I realise that a 225 isn't exactly 225mm, and some are wider than others, but it gives a basic idea of how the tyre will fit on a given rim ;)
Nothing new for me to think about there, but thanks anyway :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyleyMA61 (Post 538155)
go measure four different tyres, all 225 sized.

they're not all 225mm in section width.

Tyre sizes vary between manufacturer. section width doesn't always mean the tyre is that size. It varies.

You can apply basic maths to the situation but it does vary slightly. You can crunch the numbers to give you a guide, but based on which tyre you choose, it may differ slightly.

Plus the differential between tyre section with and rim width will cause different tyre mounting points and different sidewall deflections, which will change your mounted tyre section width.

Something to think about ;)



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