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Innovate Motorsports 10-22-2012 07:35 PM

Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger Kit for FR-S/BRZ
 
We can’t give away all the details yet, but here is a quick overview:

What is it?
-This is the first twin screw (positive displacement) supercharger kit for the Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ platform in the US.
-The cleanest near OEM under hood packaging out of any of the supercharger kit offerings! The supercharger AND water-to-air intercooler system are integrated into a direct replacement, high performance intake manifold. Simply bolt on the kit, re-flash and drive!


What kind of engine management will the kit include?
-An EcuTek re-flash mapped for the supercharger system will be included.

Why a twin screw supercharger?
-The proprietary .94 liter twin screw design offers exceptional efficiency and lower intake temperatures when compared to other positive displacement and centrifugal designs, meaning lower air inlet temps per pound of boost!
-This design has the ability to produce substantial low and mid range RPM torque compared to other forced induction options. What this means is less time worrying about what gear you are in, and more time maximizing that corner exit acceleration! Even off the track, you may also notice that you will no longer have to downshift on steep hills with the kits “right now” torque delivery.

Will this kit be intercooled?
-There will be both intercooled and non-intercooled kits available. The intercooled version of the kit will utilize highly efficient Laminova air to liquid intercooler cores integrated in to the intake manifold. There will also be a proven OEM grade Bosch pump and properly matched aluminum heat exchanger. The non-intercooled kit will be optimized for lower boost levels and offer a very competitive and attractive MSRP.

Will I need anything else?
-The kits will be sold complete with ancillaries, minus coolant if required, ready to install and drive!

Is this the right forced induction solution for me?
If you want to improve drive-ability, give your car that mid range pull it should have had from the factory, and require OEM fit and finish then yes, this kit is for you!
Come see the Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger kit for the FR-S/BRZ at the 2012 SEMA show, booth #22819.
Follow us on Facebook for the latest product updates, including photos from the 2012 SEMA Show!

Thank you for your time,


-Adam @ Innovate Motorsports, Inc.



Innovate Motorsports 10-22-2012 07:36 PM

(UPDATE 1.21.13)



Hello all! There are a few questions that have come up often in PM’s and in the thread, so we have decided to address them in one post to make things easier to keep track of. More information will follow shortly.


-Can the intercooler be added later?

Yes, the intercooler system can be added to any version of the Stg. 1 kit at a later date. The pricing for the separate intercooler upgrade will be announced shortly, but you can expect it to be somewhere in the range of the difference in price between Stg. 1 and Stg. 2 kits.


-Is tuning included in the retail pricing?

Yes, the complete Stg. 1 and Stg. 2 kits include the re-flash and the cable. This will only be applicable in the North American market. The tuner version would be ideal for those that own their own cable already, have an alternate preferred tuning solution, or those who do not own a North American spec. FR-S or BR-Z.

-Will this kit be CARB approved?


Yes, we will be pursuing CARB approval in the very near future. We'll keep everyone informed during this process. Until then, these kits will be sold for off-road use only.




-What is the Retail pricing for the kits in complete and tuner versions?

$3495 Stg.1 COMPLETE (with re-flash & cable) non-intercooled.

$3295 Stg.1 TUNER (without re-flash & cable) non-intercooled.

$4695 Stg.2 COMPLETE (with re-flash & cable) intercooled.

$4495 Stg.2 TUNER (without re-flash & cable) intercooled.


-Pre-sale information

Coming soon.


-What is the relationship between the Cusco and Innovate Motorsports Kits?

Innovate Motorsports is the exclusive North American distributor and customer service center for this supercharger package. We have been intimately involved in the design and development of this kit since the beginning (and have several rapid prototypes, drawings, components and our own development car.). If you're in North America, we're here to support your use of our products full time. Cusco, a very respectable company, will be representing this product in Japan only if they decide to pursue distribution.

Innovate Motorsports 10-22-2012 07:37 PM

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wootwoot 10-22-2012 07:41 PM

I like. Looking forward to dyno and pricing.

SkullWorks 10-22-2012 07:42 PM

was waiting to see this show up here...

sdwztofu 10-22-2012 07:46 PM

very very interested.

empower-auto 10-22-2012 07:53 PM

Innovate vs. Vortech ... FIGHT!

djdnz 10-22-2012 08:25 PM

Very excited to see what you guys come up with. Definitely have my interested peaked with the "cleanest under hood" look you've mentioned. Ahhh, only one week to SEMA.

JoeBoxer 10-22-2012 08:38 PM

Sounds very nice, had my heart set on the vortech but you may have changed my mind. Can you start non-intercooled and add it later?

No Limit Motorsport 10-22-2012 08:38 PM

Looking forward to it Adam! Email me some info!

Adam

Tansey86 10-22-2012 08:49 PM

.94 liters lol

OrbitalEllipses 10-22-2012 09:00 PM

Pictars, price!

Lonewolf 10-22-2012 10:02 PM

:needpics:

subatoy 10-22-2012 10:08 PM

this sounds promising but unless this costs less than $3,800 like AVO's amazing turbo kit there is no way I'm buying it.

I'm looking forward to the vansheee whine!

Matt Andrews 10-22-2012 10:11 PM

Way to make an informed decision. lol. I'm curious to see how this comes together. A top mounted super charger that is internally cooled and lubricated seems a lot easier to maintain that a turbo that is mounted in a manner which requires a jack and removal of panels to re-tighten fittings, etc. I like turbos as they don't require belts and alignments, but oil return pumps and other issues with turbos in this design have me hoping this works out.

Silverdub 10-22-2012 10:14 PM

No pics, sadface:(

whitefrs 10-22-2012 10:16 PM

Release Date?

Pics please

FreshFRS 10-22-2012 11:04 PM

Any Chance that this kit with allow an Eaton TVS R1050 to fit on that intake of yours?

mines13 10-22-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tansey86 (Post 513837)
.94 liters lol

Feel free to round it up. :D

mines13 10-22-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 513815)
Sounds very nice, had my heart set on the vortech but you may have changed my mind. Can you start non-intercooled and add it later?

I can not answer this quite yet. :)

Captain Snooze 10-22-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tansey86 (Post 513837)
.94 liters lol

Must be something lost in translation. Why is that funny?

Cnidus 10-22-2012 11:54 PM

God, now you're making it hard aren't you! I was all primed to get the AVO kit..


SEMA is going to be bloody interesting this year, potty I'm on the other side of the world :

djdnz 10-23-2012 12:02 AM

Coming from a market that got little to no aftermarket support to the BRZ/FRS it's just amazing the amount of companies producing parts for us.

:thanks:

Tansey86 10-23-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 514234)
Must be something lost in translation. Why is that funny?

Just used to mustang and their 2.9 liter or 4.0 liter superchargers, a supercharger with less than 1 liter of displacement was just funny.

Mechazawa 10-23-2012 12:06 AM

Well, if Innovate can do for FI kits what they did for dataloging this will raise the bar for everyone.

choi0706 10-23-2012 12:19 AM

subscribed

Mrqb22 10-23-2012 12:27 AM

subscribed

Coheed 10-23-2012 12:40 AM

I hope this means a 100hp bump in power. 300 crank? I would dig that! Although, 300whp is def where it gets quick.

mines13 10-23-2012 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitefrs (Post 514027)
Release Date?

Pics please

There will be pictures after and during SEMA. I can not go in to pricing specifics at this point in time. :thumbsup:

uspspro 10-23-2012 03:43 AM

0.94L blower does seem a little small, but I assume we are talking less than 8psi in this application.

I used a 1.2L whipple on my 4AGZE, back in the day (on a mk1 mr2), and stock was also ~1.2L. This was on a 1.6L engine, but running around 14-16psi.

They are most likely using this blower: http://www.sprintex.com.au/sprintex/...gers/#tabs-0-1

At the max speed of 15000 (~2x engine speed), this SC could make around 1 bar (nearly 15psi) of boost, depending on the VE of the engine and some other factors. Seems like a good size to me.

My main question.. what about CARB? Any plans?? :)

RYU 10-23-2012 04:21 AM

I hope you're using a kenne bell unit :). I'm a big fan of the twin screw. I run a comptech unit in my other car. However, my laminova leaked and darn near blew my engine. How can you guys make sure the laminova doesn't leak? Also, why not use a traditional tube/fin type ic? They cost less too.

Totally subscribed for updates. Need msrp pls!

jdzumwalt 10-23-2012 10:39 AM

Ohh kids, When did Innovate start building forced induction kits?

MSTiFK8R 10-23-2012 11:23 AM

Does twin screw make that goosebumps whine scream sound ?

Jeff86 10-23-2012 01:06 PM

Come on... surely you can give us a teaser pic

Cheddar 10-23-2012 01:15 PM

In for pics and specs!

+1 for teaser!

Jeff86 10-23-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSTiFK8R (Post 514968)
Does twin screw make that goosebumps whine scream sound ?

Here's what a twin screw sounds like on a 4 banger
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uTyWWlyBAw"]RSX Twin Screw Supercharger Lysholm - YouTube[/ame]

mechaghost 10-23-2012 02:41 PM

subd! Cant wait to see. if it is truly easy to install i might do it might self

SubieNate 10-23-2012 03:09 PM

As a Californian, I'm interested in a good supercharger for the potential ease of removing it to smog every two years if it's not CARB legal. Not having to get under the car and mess with the exhaust would be awesome.

Any plans for a clutch system for improved cruise economy?

Nathan

RedRocket 10-23-2012 03:49 PM

Maybe I'm a sucker for good verbiage but now I'm torn. AVO turbo or this???

FreshFRS 10-23-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RYU (Post 514664)
I hope you're using a kenne bell unit :). I'm a big fan of the twin screw. I run a comptech unit in my other car. However, my laminova leaked and darn near blew my engine. How can you guys make sure the laminova doesn't leak? Also, why not use a traditional tube/fin type ic? They cost less too.

Totally subscribed for updates. Need msrp pls!

Tube and fin most likely would not fit in a low profile intake manifold it would require more space.

but i'm down to see what the manifold looks like and if they can keep weight to a minimum i may just be looking into this kit. :burnrubber:


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