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Yruyur 10-18-2012 06:00 PM

Pics - Totalled FRS TBoned
 
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Was at the body shop to get a pic for insurance on my front bumper. Adjuster says he has had a few come through already. Mentioned he had one in the back. Driver was ok, other driver just TBoned him at an intersection. Not sure if it's anyone here. Thought I would post pics if anyone wanted to see under the skin of the car... now I know how the snorkel routes.

Yes the car was totalled. More than 11k of damage.

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RedLeader 10-18-2012 07:04 PM

Wonder if they'll sell the wheels for a decent price, assuming they're all straight.

On the upside, the body looks fairly strong, depending on how how fast and by what it was hit.

86_ZN6 10-18-2012 07:06 PM

are they parting that out? need the A/C condenser

be6sti 10-18-2012 07:21 PM

I'd assume they are fixing it... Since the damaged sheet metal has been cut out and the side panels and for and such have been removed...
Edit: fail... Should have actually read the entire post.... Misses the its totaled lone

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Turbowned 10-18-2012 07:47 PM

Someone ought to get into the business of buying up totalled FR-S's and storing them in a warehouse so we all know where to get parts. If only I had the $$...

Spartan65 10-18-2012 07:55 PM

I wanted to get a snorkel to see if I could V-Band it and drop the airbox side down below the bumper for more air.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1350593942

Asphalt11 10-18-2012 08:04 PM

Sad

Gixxersixxerman 10-18-2012 08:09 PM

I want to take my FRS to that place... I was hit right behind the door on the passenger side.. It dented the quarter panel, got the rim scuffed and scratched the rear number... It looks like it might have bent the inner fender right in front of the rear tire.. Looking at these pics I'm wondering if mine might've crushed some.. Local dealership recommended body shop quoting 3-3.5k...

WheelDude.com 10-19-2012 01:59 AM

how is $11K totalled?

That's not more than 80% of the cars value

Wonder why they didn't repair, that's strange.

ttknf 10-19-2012 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by WheelDude.com (Post 507000)
how is $11K totalled?

That's not more than 80% of the cars value

Wonder why they didn't repair, that's strange.

It's not necessarily 80% of value; that's a myth. The calculation for a total varies based on the insurance company and the estimator or adjuster can also use their discretion to total a vehicle.

To be honest, the damage to the structural parts of the chassis look enough that it could've done serious damage to the unibody (hard to say without seeing the car in person though).

Yruyur 10-19-2012 02:35 AM

The unibody was toast. He showed me where the floor was completely buckled in.

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import_bible 10-19-2012 02:39 AM

How is that only 11k? Looks like way more damage.

Cade01 10-19-2012 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by import_bible (Post 507056)
How is that only 11k? Looks like way more damage.

No kidding, I had a WRX that got hit by a semi and it wasn't totaled, only $11,000 in damage, supposedly....

MF_DEUCE 10-19-2012 03:14 AM

can i has the ebrake?

Hix 10-19-2012 10:13 AM

11k in repairs and 11k in depreciation... If they had Gap insurance and all that jazz it is cheaper for the insurance company to replace with a new car since the insurance company takes an insurance policy out with another insurance place on the car to cover new car replacement. Insuranception.. Really anything with a possibility of structural damage should be replaced.

BioRage 10-19-2012 10:35 AM

On the bright side, he get's a new car!

On the bad side, everyone insurance goes up!

briang0901 10-19-2012 10:44 AM

Wonder if they will sell the wheels/tires and for what price...

Hix 10-19-2012 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BioRage (Post 507400)
On the bright side, he get's a new car!

On the bad side, everyone insurance goes up!

Strange thing is mine shot up to $115 for one month as a car adjustment then went down to 69 bucks this month... So all three insurance payments I have made have been different.

Gixxersixxerman 10-19-2012 08:28 PM

I'm confused.. If he got hit from someone else's fault, why would that effect our insurance... In fact any vehicle I've ever had, my premiums have never changed from what I was quoted unless they went down from just a good record, including my gixxer and those get wrecked daily...

midnightfrolic 10-19-2012 10:33 PM

glad you're ok man

blu_ 10-19-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ttknf (Post 507021)
It's not necessarily 80% of value; that's a myth. The calculation for a total varies based on the insurance company and the estimator or adjuster can also use their discretion to total a vehicle.

To be honest, the damage to the structural parts of the chassis look enough that it could've done serious damage to the unibody (hard to say without seeing the car in person though).

Its not necessarily always the case, but why would an insurance company write you a check for 20k+ when they could "fix" it for 11k? I understand you can sometimes settle for the depreciation loss, but that still seems steep.

v12 10-19-2012 10:55 PM

here 2 more
http://images.copart.com/website/dat...1483472_1X.JPG


http://images.copart.com/website/dat...5313602_1X.JPG
same blue inside http://images.copart.com/website/dat...5313602_5X.JPG

ttknf 10-20-2012 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by blu_ (Post 508870)
Its not necessarily always the case, but why would an insurance company write you a check for 20k+ when they could "fix" it for 11k? I understand you can sometimes settle for the depreciation loss, but that still seems steep.

There are other factors to consider when determining a total loss. Some insurance companies put a lot of stress on safety; if major structural components are damaged or the damage looks like it could affect the overall safety, repairs are not allowed, even if it technically can be repaired.

It all depends on the standard that the particular insurance company holds their repairs to. There are some companies that will allow "repairs" to be done to crumple zones, which is generally a major "no no" with the biggest companies.

Then there are other factors like the difference between repairs and value after repairs; some states have diminished value laws, while others don't. Some adjusters at some companies will manipulate the value of the estimate/TL as a means of customer service if a customer really wants to keep their car and not have it declared as salvage (this only really happens with the estimate is within say a couple hundred bucks of the threshold for declaring TL).

DaJo 10-20-2012 02:41 AM

Seems like there are more FR-S in the wreck yard than they are out on the streets now...

Drive safe people and always be vigilant!

Turbowned 10-20-2012 10:09 AM

Someone snag that Bespoke unit!

blu_ 10-20-2012 05:26 PM

Bespoke sucks.

BobDigi5060 11-12-2012 01:16 PM

I'm amazed by all the wrecked 86s we've had here in America in less than a year!

einzlr 11-12-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BobDigi5060 (Post 552611)
I'm amazed by all the wrecked 86s we've had here in America in less than a year!

young driver + no prior RWD experience + boundless excitement over a brand new sports car + tree = wrap

HunterGreene 11-12-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blu_ (Post 509939)
Bespoke sucks.

You forget, "There's a sucker born every minute."

nbafandan 11-14-2012 10:58 PM

Stop with all these pictures, its making me sad :(

Ben_G 12-03-2012 09:59 PM

Holy crap...that must've been a hard hit on the blue one.... engine and tranny both pushed up and into the cabin!

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Originally Posted by v12 (Post 508894)


JackSmiley 12-04-2012 06:53 AM

If they're parting the car out, id get the headlights and maybe the engine.:D

Justin.b 12-04-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben_G (Post 588719)
Holy crap...that must've been a hard hit on the blue one.... engine and tranny both pushed up and into the cabin!

I was thinking the same thing. I guess that's the down side of having a wide boxer engine down low. If you manage to get have one of your front wheels pushed in, it can't move very far before something contacts the engine.

-Justin

dori. 12-04-2012 09:25 AM

send us those FA20's for research!

Justin.b 12-04-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dori. (Post 589459)
send us those FA20's for research!

I don't think the one out of the blue car is worth pulling.

I hope this doesn't lead to high repair costs for these cars if the motor can be easily damaged in a collision. I've never had a Subaru before, is there less clearance on the sides of the FT86's engine as compared to other Subarus?

-Justin

SkAsphalt 12-04-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blu_ (Post 509939)
Bespoke sucks.

for the 400 bucks I paid to have it...I can't really complain.

A pioneer head unit would have been cheaper but I am just TIRED of dealing with mobile audio.

Justin.b 12-04-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SkAsphalt (Post 589520)
for the 400 bucks I paid to have it...I can't really complain.

A pioneer head unit would have been cheaper but I am just TIRED of dealing with mobile audio.

I agree... and I paid full price for mine. It's good enough for my needs, the wife loves the bluetooth functions.

-Justin

whaap 12-04-2012 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WheelDude.com (Post 507000)
how is $11K totalled?

That's not more than 80% of the cars value

Wonder why they didn't repair, that's strange.

Three numbers need to be known in determining if a car is a total loss or not. One is the estimated price to repair, two is the value of the vehicle before the accident and three is the value of the car as it sets there now (salvage). Using round numbers for an example. If a car was worth 20 before the accident and the cost to repair is 10 it might sound like it's a repair but what if someone was willing to pay 11 for the car the way it sat. It would be 1 cheaper to total the car than it would be to repair it.

Some insurance companies have contracts with salvage buyers where they will give the insurance company a percentage of the value place on the car by the insurance company. Some put their total losses up for bids and have to guestimate the value of the salvage based on their past experiences. Any time the damages are even close to making a car a total loss it's to everyone's advantage to total it out. The customer doesn't have a long wait for his car and then have to make repeated trips back to the shop to take care of petty issues. The insurance company doesn't have to live with someone beating on them because of the lousy repair job and the same goes for the body shop.

v12 12-04-2012 11:21 AM

i found more if anyone interesting
go to iaai insurance auto auctions
https://www.iaai.com/Default.aspx
and in search window type "fr s" or brz
and in copart there are some

Spartan65 12-04-2012 11:27 AM

A dealer here in town bought a Hail damage FireStorm Red MT for 22K They say they are going to fix it first, and list for 25K. Blew my mind how much damage it actually has. Roof, Hood, Trunk, Fenders and Quarter Panels.


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