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Toxic 10-18-2012 11:16 AM

Looking for a Frs for R&D on a turbo and supercharger
 
We have a high performance shop in Indian Trail NC and we are looking for someone with a FRS or BRZ who wants to do some forced induction. With over 10 years of experience with forced induction, we are looking to apply our knowledge to the new and exciting FRS. contact us at toxicdetailandperformance@yahoo.com or 7043095357

tjdiz92 10-18-2012 11:26 AM

Is it free? =)

arucard77 10-18-2012 06:24 PM

Makes me wish I lived in NC!

Toxic 10-18-2012 09:57 PM

Not free, lol. However all you haves to pay for is the parts and you get that at our cost!

Toxic 10-18-2012 09:57 PM

Ship it up to me

JDMenrique 10-18-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 506713)
Not free, lol. However all you haves to pay for is the parts and you get that at our cost!

Labor and tuning is free then? No hidden costs?


I'm not able to do this but I did do something similar to this when the '06 Civic first came out with their new engine. They came on a forum and I went in and had a local shop R&D a turbo kit which I ended up getting screwed royally for.

That being said, Im not accusing nor assuming that you would be shady like my experience. Im just looking out for this community. Good luck on the build, keep us posted!

JoeBoxer 10-18-2012 10:14 PM

Be careful people

wcbjr 10-19-2012 06:48 AM

@yahoo.com ?

Do you have a website? Do you have credentials? I cannot find you on Google.

jstans84 10-19-2012 07:09 AM

Are you guys new in Indian Trail? I was at Lejeune for 3 years and had never heard of you guys, or any other reputable tuning shop in the area.

Sent from thousands of years ago into the future.

Toxic 10-19-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMenrique (Post 506727)
Labor and tuning is free then? No hidden costs?


I'm not able to do this but I did do something similar to this when the '06 Civic first came out with their new engine. They came on a forum and I went in and had a local shop R&D a turbo kit which I ended up getting screwed royally for.

That being said, Im not accusing nor assuming that you would be shady like my experience. Im just looking out for this community. Good luck on the build, keep us posted!

Yea no hidden costs! We are a small shop with unfortunately not enough capital to give the parts free. Wish we could though. So yea it's just paying for parts at our cost that's it. When we start one we will def keep y'all posted!

Toxic 10-19-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wcbjr (Post 507246)
@yahoo.com ?

Do you have a website? Do you have credentials? I cannot find you on Google.

Our website is in the works right now. You can find us on Facebook. Look up Toxic Detail and Performance. You will find our page. With builds that are going on now. We sponsor a couple of cars one being the "blue demon which is a first gen neon 4 door." You can look him up too and contact him, we are a true shop! Also look up NCsc car meet. We sponsor them as we'll and you can ask them bout our work. If it came down too it we could give you acouple of business's that we buy parts from and know us and that we have built cars for.

We are a true shop like I said. Not on here trying to scam no one. Just trying to add another part(s)/kit to the industry.

Toxic 10-19-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer (Post 506742)
Be careful people

I agree fully with you and would be surprised if someone didnt come into this with out concerns. But we are a true shop and we are not trying to scam no one! No hidden charges! We are a small shop looking to get our name out there more and develope parts. Hell look up Scott Clark Toyota/scion look them up on face book and they just here recently mentioned us on there Facebook page. For anyone that wants to talk to us or had any questions concerns. Call the shop 704-309-5357 or if your in our general area swing by!

Sportsguy83 10-19-2012 08:20 AM

Guys, they already released an exhaust for our cars. Not advocating or anything, but at least, they DO have a shop and they do exist :D

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12587

Toxic 10-19-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jstans84 (Post 507253)
Are you guys new in Indian Trail? I was at Lejeune for 3 years and had never heard of you guys, or any other reputable tuning shop in the area.

Sent from thousands of years ago into the future.

First off I want to thank you and your fellow brothers and sisters for what yall do for us and allowing us to be able to do what we do day in and out!

Yes we are a fairly new shop. We have for a little bit just stayed under the rador. We have a guys 94gt in the shop right now that is in the air force. I really wish i havent been slack on the website and hate to keep mentioning facebook, but if you looked us up on there you can see a little bit whats going on in the shop and a little what we are about. We are a small shop. We stay quite and just like to build sweet cars and bikes, and have fun doing it. I understand anyones concerns or redflags being thrown up since we are not well known (yet), but I can say this we are a true shop and we will NOT screw anyone! None of this is a scam!

Toxic 10-19-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 507303)
Guys, they already released an exhaust for our cars. Not advocating or anything, but at least, they DO have a shop and they do exist :D

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12587

Thanks! and on the exhaust we have been revamping it for the past couple of months. We have changed a good little bit the tips now have a nice 15 degree slant cut rolled tip with options of 4" and 3.5"tips (no more dual staggered tip!!!!!) (We really just did that for that one customer and then wanted to see what everone thought). Everything is tig welded on the kits and look pretty! lol anyways thanks again for the post!!

Theothanatologist 10-19-2012 10:07 AM

Mmmm...may have to drop by.

I'm over in Marvin.

Toxic 10-22-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Theothanatologist (Post 507440)
Mmmm...may have to drop by.

I'm over in Marvin.

Swing in anytime!!! We are open M-F 9-5 ( We stay a little later though) and Sat. by appointments......but if you want to come down on a sat. Just call or email and let us know and we will be here for you. If you need directions or anything just hit us up. The shop is about 20-25 mins from Marvin.

RedRocket 10-22-2012 09:04 AM

Hi, Can we take all the risks with your car, and you pay for it? hah.. I'm sorry but I would HIGHLY advise against this..

What's in it for the person letting people LEARN on their car? A few bucks in labor at the risk of several thousands?

Sorry but saving $1000 bucks on labor is NOT my idea of a deal, when your R&D'ing.

Please fellow Owners beware... Treat your cars right.

Watch their video... Look at the welds on their prototype... Look at the intake. are these the guys you want working on your car

gmookher 10-22-2012 09:14 AM

what history do your firm have in tuning cars? boxers? subarus? thanks

knapper 10-22-2012 12:09 PM

I really mean nothing hateful by this, but come on ...

1. It costs all of about $75/year (including registration, private business naming, domain name etc.) to get a website.
2. If you were smart enough to create a profile on here, you can build a website using Wordpress Themes, or pay $35 for a premium that is practically made for you.
3. Go and buy a digital camera to heavily document your work and business practices (a decent DSLR would suffice, and can be had for around $450)

If you have ten years of experience, I am sure that you have a great customer base, and history of your work.

So, at the end of the day, you are out $560 +/- a few coins. If you can't afford that kind of capital malnourishment ... how are you in business? And how can you expect people to trust you with shipping their brand new $30,000 car for "testing" purposes.

I understand that not every shop in the world can afford to go and purchase an FR-S/BRZ, but coming on to a public forum, heavily populated with reputable shops, can you really expect great feedback using a Yahoo.com email address and a "just trust us" Facebook page?

:iono:

Toxic 10-22-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRocket (Post 512633)
Hi, Can we take all the risks with your car, and you pay for it? hah.. I'm sorry but I would HIGHLY advise against this..

What's in it for the person letting people LEARN on their car? A few bucks in labor at the risk of several thousands?

Sorry but saving $1000 bucks on labor is NOT my idea of a deal, when your R&D'ing.

Please fellow Owners beware... Treat your cars right.

Watch their video... Look at the welds on their prototype... Look at the intake. are these the guys you want working on your car

Look, we put this post up for someone looking to save a bunch of money and wants a well made turbo kit. We realize that this isnt for everyone, so if its not for you thats fine but its uncalled for when you jump on a forum and bad mouth a company that is looking to do the FT86 club a service. We posted our phone number as well as email so that people can call and speak to us and see if this plan works for them.

We are a small company that just want to be able to help others out and let everyone have fun doing it. If I felt that we would just be LEARNING on a car then we wouldnt take a project on....SINCE this is how I feed MY FAMILY!

OUR CUSTOMERS always leave with a smile and happy.

Please feel free to call or email us and see if you wanna change your mind and retract this ridiculous post

Toxic 10-22-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knapper (Post 512891)
I really mean nothing hateful by this, but come on ...

1. It costs all of about $75/year (including registration, private business naming, domain name etc.) to get a website.
2. If you were smart enough to create a profile on here, you can build a website using Wordpress Themes, or pay $35 for a premium that is practically made for you.
3. Go and buy a digital camera to heavily document your work and business practices (a decent DSLR would suffice, and can be had for around $450)

If you have ten years of experience, I am sure that you have a great customer base, and history of your work.

So, at the end of the day, you are out $560 +/- a few coins. If you can't afford that kind of capital malnourishment ... how are you in business? And how can you expect people to trust you with shipping their brand new $30,000 car for "testing" purposes.

I understand that not every shop in the world can afford to go and purchase an FR-S/BRZ, but coming on to a public forum, heavily populated with reputable shops, can you really expect great feedback using a Yahoo.com email address and a "just trust us" Facebook page?

:iono:

We have a website in the works. We are hoping to have it up shortly. I understand what you are saying, and I respect what you are saying. So I dont mean nothing by this either. But when did having a website define a business. For anyone that is in the area come to our shop, look at what we do, talk to us and see that we are a legit shop that doesnt bullshit and really just out here to make cars go fast and have fun doing it. And if someone wants to do this, awesome. You should also check out Scott Clark Toyota Scion, they are in the top 20 in the country in sales, tell me why they are sending cars to me? Like I said im not trying to start anything with you, this is more about letting everyone know what we are about. And trying to get the name out there!!

Toxic 10-22-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 512645)
what history do your firm have in tuning cars? boxers? subarus? thanks


We handle AEM standalone and or piggy back, big stuff 3, SCT, Sniper, Fast, UpREv, dont forget that a real tuner isnt just limited to one software.

RedRocket 10-23-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 513012)
Look, we put this post up for someone looking to save a bunch of money and wants a well made turbo kit. We realize that this isnt for everyone, so if its not for you thats fine but its uncalled for when you jump on a forum and bad mouth a company that is looking to do the FT86 club a service. We posted our phone number as well as email so that people can call and speak to us and see if this plan works for them.

We are a small company that just want to be able to help others out and let everyone have fun doing it. If I felt that we would just be LEARNING on a car then we wouldnt take a project on....SINCE this is how I feed MY FAMILY!

OUR CUSTOMERS always leave with a smile and happy.

Please feel free to call or email us and see if you wanna change your mind and retract this ridiculous post

Look man this is my opinion. You want to R&D on someone's car with Forced Induction.

For me, I've got to trust someone a whole lot. So, my statements stands. "Owners Beware"

Lets look at what you've done. Well nothing as far as FI so we'll have to look at your intake and exhaust.

The design would be ok with a heat shield but without, like other with this design it will negatively effect HP. Have you dyno'd it? No? Who markets part that are untested?

Lets look at the exhaust. The welds are rather sloppy. It may generate some HP but how do we know? It's a chambered muffler as you said. Any more info?

Nice sales pitch in your video(your no Billy Blanks though), but let your products speak for themselves. Do you think the form or function of your products match any others here?

I don't.

The amount of research you've put into your products scares me when we talk about Fi.

Nightmare scenario...
Well it looked/sounded like 6psi but it was 27 and now your pistons melted but good new we won't charge you for the labor of the $4000 with of parts we put in.

You never mentioned how many cars you sold turbos into. I don't mean hooking up your friends 1998 civic with knock off parts. I'm talking about paying customers as references?

When I look at shops to do FI. I see guys who have done scores of them. I don't want to be some bodies 6th turbo ever on a new plattform. Do you??

Sportsguy83 10-23-2012 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRocket (Post 514844)
Look man this is my opinion. You want to R&D on someone's car with Forced Induction.

For me, I've got to trust someone a whole lot. So, my statements stands. "Owners Beware"

Lets look at what you've done. Well nothing as far as FI so we'll have to look at your intake and exhaust.

The design would be ok with a heat shield but without, like other with this design it will negatively effect HP. Have you dyno'd it? No? Who markets part that are untested?

Lets look at the exhaust. The welds are rather sloppy. It may generate some HP but how do we know? It's a chambered muffler as you said. Any more info?

Nice sales pitch in your video(your no Billy Blanks though), but let your products speak for themselves. Do you think the form or function of your products match any others here?

I don't.

The amount of research you've put into your products scares me when we talk about Fi.

Nightmare scenario...
Well it looked/sounded like 6psi but it was 27 and now your pistons melted but good new we won't charge you for the labor of the $4000 with of parts we put in.

You never mentioned how many cars you sold turbos into. I don't mean hooking up your friends 1998 civic with knock off parts. I'm talking about paying customers as references?

When I look at shops to do FI. I see guys who have done scores of them. I don't want to be some bodies 6th turbo ever on a new plattform. Do you??


Dude, seriously, move on. They are doing no harm here to anyone, they are just trying to get a car to R&D. You have NO IDEA how the whole situation will pan out. You have NO IDEA what type of contract will be signed between Toxic and the person who donors their car.

You already made your point, you don't like the approach, understood. Now, move on and leave them alone. They don't have to prove anything to you. They just have to prove it to the person who is looking to donor their car. Once they have the car and finish their product, go ahead and make an opinion on what they do.

I don't know this shop and I'm extremely far away from them, but what's the point on you continuing to question their practices when you know nothing about them?? Let them do their thing. When someone donors their car it won't affect your life in any way so just let it be.

xjohnx 10-23-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 513292)
We handle AEM standalone and or piggy back, big stuff 3, SCT, Sniper, Fast, UpREv, dont forget that a real tuner isnt just limited to one software.

Dp you have a dyno inhouse? What engine management were you planning on using for your BRZ turbo?

Toxic 10-23-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjohnx (Post 514893)
Dp you have a dyno inhouse? What engine management were you planning on using for your BRZ turbo?

No we dont have one in house.. I use Drivens dyno. Which is a shop that is 2 minutes from our shop. Got a good deal worked out with them.
And on the software we are going to be using UNICHIP.

RedRocket 10-23-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 514861)
Dude, seriously, move on. They are doing no harm here to anyone, they are just trying to get a car to R&D. You have NO IDEA how the whole situation will pan out. You have NO IDEA what type of contract will be signed between Toxic and the person who donors their car.

You already made your point, you don't like the approach, understood. Now, move on and leave them alone. They don't have to prove anything to you. They just have to prove it to the person who is looking to donor their car. Once they have the car and finish their product, go ahead and make an opinion on what they do.

I don't know this shop and I'm extremely far away from them, but what's the point on you continuing to question their practices when you know nothing about them?? Let them do their thing. When someone donors their car it won't affect your life in any way so just let it be.

That is my point. I said "Owner Beware". Not "Owners Avoid". Nothing much known about these guys, besides what they've shown us.

I would want to see their shop. I would want significant investment into a shop doing FI.

The point is OP said he wanted me to retract my "ridiculous" opinion. I cannot. I though this was what this forum was for. To share opinions and help fellow owners out. If they didn't want discussion about it maybe they should have posted this on their website(when it's up, OP said it would be soon) instead of a forum.

xjohnx 10-23-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 514909)
And on the software we are going to be using UNICHIP.

Does Unichip have a FR-S/BRZ solution available? In your opinion, what are the benefits of going with UNICHIP over someone like ECUTek?

Toxic 10-23-2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRocket (Post 514929)
That is my point. I said "Owner Beware". Not "Owners Avoid". Nothing much known about these guys, besides what they've shown us.

I would want to see their shop. I would want significant investment into a shop doing FI.

The point is OP said he wanted me to retract my "ridiculous" opinion. I cannot. I though this was what this forum was for. To share opinions and help fellow owners out. If they didn't want discussion about it maybe they should have posted this on their website(when it's up, OP said it would be soon) instead of a forum.


Opinions are fine, but dont go slamming the shop when you dont know anything about us. We have pictures on facebook of the shop and what we are currently working on, like the 03 teminator cobra that we are currently putting a procharger f2 on. With that said all we are asking is that you be more tasteful with what you are saying and you get all your facts straight before you post. When the kit comes out and you see the results and the customers feedback and the price then you can give us your thoughts.

wcbjr 10-23-2012 10:49 AM

Did Unichip move away from a piggy-back that will get overridden in the ECU?

Dave-ROR 10-23-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 514991)
Opinions are fine, but dont go slamming the shop when you dont know anything about us. We have pictures on facebook of the shop and what we are currently working on, like the 03 teminator cobra that we are currently putting a procharger f2 on. With that said all we are asking is that you be more tasteful with what you are saying and you get all your facts straight before you post. When the kit comes out and you see the results and the customers feedback and the price then you can give us your thoughts.

I think he was asking what FI systems you've developed, not which kits that were engineered elsewhere that you've installed. Replacing one blower with another isn't exactly engineering..

Question: If the motor pops while under your care, do you replace the motor or will it be considered "one of those risks" for the customer?

Dave-ROR 10-23-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wcbjr (Post 515009)
Did Unichip move away from a piggy-back that will get overridden in the ECU?

Still looks like a piggyback.

wcbjr 10-23-2012 11:38 AM

Yeah, Unichips lasted a year or two on the first USDM WRXes, then real solutions came out.

Toxic 10-23-2012 12:43 PM

:)

RedRocket 10-23-2012 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxic (Post 514991)
Opinions are fine, but dont go slamming the shop when you dont know anything about us. We have pictures on facebook of the shop and what we are currently working on, like the 03 teminator cobra that we are currently putting a procharger f2 on. With that said all we are asking is that you be more tasteful with what you are saying and you get all your facts straight before you post. When the kit comes out and you see the results and the customers feedback and the price then you can give us your thoughts.

What facts are inaccurate. I'll be glad to correct them. So you've worked on one 03 cobra?

RedRocket 10-23-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 515036)
I think he was asking what FI systems you've developed, not which kits that were engineered elsewhere that you've installed. Replacing one blower with another isn't exactly engineering..

Question: If the motor pops while under your care, do you replace the motor or will it be considered "one of those risks" for the customer?

Exactly the types of questions I was implying when I said "Beware"

Toxic 10-23-2012 03:00 PM

:lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRocket (Post 515464)
What facts are inaccurate. I'll be glad to correct them. So you've worked on one 03 cobra?


:lol:

Dave-ROR 10-23-2012 03:13 PM

Based on replies in this thread, and the fact that you aren't a vendor, this is locked. Contact Hachiroku to become a vendor.


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