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Beyer Subaru 10-15-2012 04:39 PM

BRZ STi Wing Gurney Flap
 
Searched and didn't see it.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...psd55c6bf6.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...psacfce824.jpg

Per Google Translate install and product description:
It is the material of rubber aero spoiler attached to the rear end of the car aero package. Conducted wind tunnel test vehicle at STI, increase downforce by rectifying the air subjected to surface wing without increasing the (CD) air resistance, this product was developed property ground of the drive wheels at high speeds improve.
※ drilling it is necessary for mounting the rear spoiler

This will require drilling into the existing trunk spoiler to install correctly.

switchlanez 10-15-2012 06:50 PM

I put my order in for one last night. :p

taiguochin 10-15-2012 08:19 PM

where can you get this??

spitz 10-15-2012 08:25 PM

Yeah where can you get this?

spitz 10-15-2012 08:36 PM

Japanparts.com just bought mine!

cslntuee 10-16-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitz (Post 498999)
Japanparts.com just bought mine!

How much additional insurance, customs, duties, and related costs need to pay, if direct import from Japan?

ps. I also interested in their front lip and side skirt.

Do you also buy them before? How much (total cost) for that?

Thank you.

ATL BRZ 10-16-2012 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslntuee (Post 499890)
How much additional insurance, customs, duties, and related costs need to pay, if direct import from Japan?

$159 to my door. Can't wait!

spitz 10-16-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslntuee (Post 499890)
How much additional insurance, customs, duties, and related costs need to pay, if direct import from Japan?

ps. I also interested in their front lip and side skirt.

Do you also buy them before? How much (total cost) for that?

Thank you.

Yeah it was about $159 shipped to my door. I have previous bought parts from japanparts.com, although not the STi pieces you mentioned, and they are super quick and reliable. I plan to pick up the front lip and side skirts when I have a nicer set of wheels to go with them.

Beyer Subaru 10-16-2012 11:56 AM

Schveet!! I know me and Lanez are on the STi wagon. It's nice to see others have the same opinion.

I'm pretty torn here. I'm not fond of the existing wing and don't know if the flap will make me like it better.

Superhatch 10-16-2012 12:02 PM

From those shots I'm not really feeling it. It looks like garden trim from Home Depot.

Beyer Subaru 10-16-2012 12:17 PM

But it's STi garden trim that is wind tunnel tested. Gawsh.

cantaloupe 10-16-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru (Post 500345)
Schveet!! I know me and Lanez are on the STi wagon. It's nice to see others have the same opinion.

I'm pretty torn here. I'm not fond of the existing wing and don't know if the flap will make me like it better.

Same here, will need to wait for more pictures.

ICantAffordAnLFA 10-16-2012 04:10 PM

Worth noting that some of the stuff shown on the STI site isn't actually available yet.

Springs don't ship till November, for example

spitz 10-16-2012 06:30 PM

Do you have a link to this STi site? Thanks :)

cslntuee 10-16-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitz (Post 500326)
Yeah it was about $159 shipped to my door. I have previous bought parts from japanparts.com, although not the STi pieces you mentioned, and they are super quick and reliable. I plan to pick up the front lip and side skirts when I have a nicer set of wheels to go with them.

I checked their website.
http://www.japanparts.com/delivery.htm
"To Door By Air"
Including : Customs clearance
Excluding: Taxes and charges

How much is the excluding part or how can I calculate?
Thank you.

ICantAffordAnLFA 10-17-2012 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spitz (Post 501284)
Do you have a link to this STi site? Thanks :)

http://www.sti.jp/parts/catalogue/brz_zc6/index.html

Guff 10-17-2012 02:24 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but is this functional or purely decoratory?

Hanakuso 10-17-2012 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 502188)
Pardon my ignorance, but is this functional or purely decoratory?

The stock wing is already mostly for looks so this add on piece won't help much.

OmarGC 10-17-2012 03:17 AM

Didn't know they sold STi parts at Lowes & Home Depot. @switchlanez, I own stock in them probably could've got it for the LOW.

JDM-dono 10-17-2012 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guff (Post 502188)
Pardon my ignorance, but is this functional or purely decoratory?

If supposedly air does reach the gurney flap you'll have a higher pressure region above the wing (than without the gurney flap)... In essence it's slightly functional but not to the point that it's measurable improvement in downforce IMO.

EDIT: Think of it as air hitting a brick wall, there'll be high pressure region in front of the wall. By having air hit the gurney flap you'll have high pressure above the wing.

switchlanez 10-17-2012 03:46 AM

For months I've been debating ideas on how to match my stock spoiler with my black parts... paint my spoiler flat black or CF-overlay it? Get a lip spoiler and do all that? Get the Aussie NurburgWING? I even sent Bluebatmobile cash to make a custom black overlay for the backside of my stock spoiler like this 5:AD tC then cancelled. This STI flap takes my idea and improves on it... pretty much nails what I've been wrestling with for months.

Is it functional? Well the front lip/side skirts are (sides have same basic shape as Toyota Factory Tune/Nurburgring/GTS kit skirts) plus they have access to any aero development simulations, have CG 3D model representations of their parts on the BRZ on their site, and take forever to develop/release their parts. It'd be stupid to sell something that hurts aerodynamics... since this sits directly in airflow, they'd have to at *least* ensure that. And while they're at it, maybe improve the aero. But I wouldn't care if it isn't functional. All their BRZ aero parts have been high quality with exact mounting and fitment (so far).

Plus it reminds me of a more subtle version of this guy (which is stock and an all time fave)...
http://www.ssip.net/upload/honda-nsx-r-back-3_70.jpg

cslntuee 10-17-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 502261)
For months I've been debating ideas on how to match my stock spoiler with my black parts... paint my spoiler flat black or CF-overlay it? Get a lip spoiler and do all that? Get the Aussie NurburgWING? I even sent Bluebatmobile cash to make a custom black overlay for the backside of my stock spoiler like this 5:AD tC then cancelled. This STI flap takes my idea and improves on it... pretty much nails what I've been wrestling with for months.

Is it functional? Well the front lip/side skirts are (sides have same basic shape as Toyota Factory Tune/Nurburgring/GTS kit skirts) plus they have access to any aero development simulations, have CG 3D model representations of their parts on the BRZ on their site, and take forever to develop/release their parts. It'd be stupid to sell something that hurts aerodynamics... since this sits directly in airflow, they'd have to at *least* ensure that. And while they're at it, maybe improve the aero. But I wouldn't care if it isn't functional. All their BRZ aero parts have been high quality with exact mounting and fitment (so far).

Plus it reminds me of a more subtle version of this guy (which is stock and an all time fave)...
http://www.ssip.net/upload/honda-nsx-r-back-3_70.jpg


What’s material for the front lip and side skirt? (FRP, PU, ABS,PP,CF…etc)
Thank you.

kask2_6.0 10-17-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDM-dono (Post 502253)
If supposedly air does reach the gurney flap you'll have a higher pressure region above the wing (than without the gurney flap)... In essence it's slightly functional but not to the point that it's measurable improvement in downforce IMO.

EDIT: Think of it as air hitting a brick wall, there'll be high pressure region in front of the wall. By having air hit the gurney flap you'll have high pressure above the wing.


Believe it or not a wicker can have a significant impact on a wing. Now I'm not an aero guy so I can't give you in depth details but I have a pretty good idea on some of this stuff. I work for a racing company and I've been around for some testing. 1 mm height adjustments of the wicker can effect the top speed of the car by a couple mph. Granted the cars tested were going upwards of 185 mph. Taller wicker = more downforce = more drag. I've also been around for completely losing a wicker off a wing while on track (tight course) and that effected the rear downforce and balance of the HUGE.

Keep in mind that these are race cars and are much different than the BRZ but the wicker should have the same effects. Just nowhere the same extent since the brz wing/spoiler is far less effective than one on a GT car. Anyways, I was just trying to explain that a piece like that DOES make a difference.

Beyer Subaru 10-17-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslntuee (Post 502336)
What’s material for the front lip and side skirt? (FRP, PU, ABS,PP,CF…etc)
Thank you.

Looks like your normal ABS plastic that is used for bumper covers, side rails, rear bumpers, etc..

switchlanez 10-17-2012 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslntuee (Post 502336)
What’s material for the front lip and side skirt? (FRP, PU, ABS,PP,CF…etc)
Thank you.

I'm not entirely sure. It's not FRP because there are no strands... it's a solid, consistent black with no texture, just all smooth. Not as flexible as PU but feels lighter. Probably closer to ABS plastic. It looks injection molded because I saw tiny bubbling on the back of one skirt. "PPE" is stamped on the parts so maybe it's this?

JPxM0Dz 10-17-2012 04:43 PM

Ordered mine also, guessing it attaches via 3M ?

Beyer Subaru 10-18-2012 10:07 AM

Kinda hard to tell per the engrish description. It looks like they are saying the regular spoiler needs to be drilled.

It is the material of rubber aero spoiler attached to the rear end of the car aero package. Conducted wind tunnel test vehicle at STI, increase downforce by rectifying the air subjected to surface wing without increasing the (CD) air resistance, this product was developed property ground of the drive wheels at high speeds improve.
※ drilling it is necessary for mounting the rear spoiler

I would assume it's just a sticky tape install.

finch1750 10-18-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by switchlanez (Post 502261)
For months I've been debating ideas on how to match my stock spoiler with my black parts... paint my spoiler flat black or CF-overlay it? Get a lip spoiler and do all that? Get the Aussie NurburgWING? I even sent Bluebatmobile cash to make a custom black overlay for the backside of my stock spoiler like this 5:AD tC then cancelled. This STI flap takes my idea and improves on it... pretty much nails what I've been wrestling with for months.

Is it functional? Well the front lip/side skirts are (sides have same basic shape as Toyota Factory Tune/Nurburgring/GTS kit skirts) plus they have access to any aero development simulations, have CG 3D model representations of their parts on the BRZ on their site, and take forever to develop/release their parts. It'd be stupid to sell something that hurts aerodynamics... since this sits directly in airflow, they'd have to at *least* ensure that. And while they're at it, maybe improve the aero. But I wouldn't care if it isn't functional. All their BRZ aero parts have been high quality with exact mounting and fitment (so far).

Plus it reminds me of a more subtle version of this guy (which is stock and an all time fave)...
http://www.ssip.net/upload/honda-nsx-r-back-3_70.jpg


I'm in the same boat with my FRS, bow do I work the black in (I want a panda-like look) and I think this solves it for me. I kind of liked the BRZ wing before but this settled it. STi FRS for me it seems. Lol

Beyer Subaru 10-18-2012 11:05 AM

:word: I've already got a TRD part on mine with more on the way.

Why not keep up the same theme that the Mfrs are doing with a proper Toyobaru/ Subyota?

If TRD, Tom's, STi SAA, Modelista, etc comes up with a part that I agree with, I'm game.

Lee358 10-18-2012 11:47 AM

Is anyone importing sti parts in bulk yet?


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ATL BRZ 10-20-2012 10:48 PM

Anyone gotten theirs yet?

SpeedmasterBRZ 10-22-2012 07:53 AM

Subscribed.

gmookher 10-22-2012 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanakuso (Post 502232)
The stock wing is already mostly for looks so this add on piece won't help much.

wrong.

it affects cD.

spitz 10-22-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 510426)
Anyone gotten theirs yet?

Mine just landed in San Francisco, per tracking.

I should be receiving mine tomorrow; I'll post pictures of it but I don't have a car yet to put it on!

Hanakuso 10-22-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmookher (Post 512675)
wrong.

it affects cD.

reading>you

spitz 10-24-2012 12:27 AM

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Here are a few shots of the gurney flap I received from japanparts.com. The quality is OK in my opinion, it seems to be abs plastic or urethane.

Not sure if I'll install it on the car, but it does require two holes to be drilled into the wing and clips mounted, from what I could translate from the instructions (in Japanese).

Big disappointment. :mad0260:

I wish japanparts.com had disclosed that information. However, they shipped super fast!

spitz 10-24-2012 12:33 AM

I'll post pics mocked up on the car when I receive the car tomorrow :)

jkonquer 10-24-2012 01:33 AM

Just put it on without the clip. Clip shouldnt make much difference anyway. And cover up the hole on the lip with something

spitz 10-24-2012 02:47 AM

Yeah was thinking of doing it that way and cutting the heads off the clip and plugging the holes with them :)

Beyer Subaru 10-24-2012 10:05 AM

I'll edit the first post to show that it needs drilled.


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