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jmaryt 10-14-2012 04:16 PM

nav unit in brz
 
does anyone know what this standard navigation "head" unit costs in the brz?
was curious because it appears it is the only difference between the two
cars,other than cosmetic differences!..comments? thanks!

jmaryt 10-14-2012 04:44 PM

nav unit in brz
 
was just wondering if anybody knows what this "standard"
navigation "head" unit costs? it is basically the only "major" difference between
the two cars,(other than cosmetic differences!) comments? thanks!

Mobius357 10-14-2012 05:17 PM

There's also Hid headlights, I think they're quite nice. 'Fraid I don't know the cost of the nav unit, but really, it's nothing special. Don't use that as a deciding factor. It's really the sum of the small differences that defines the BRZ. I'm sure someone else with more knowledge in this area can give you a good cost estimate.

avp1 10-14-2012 05:31 PM

Navigation unit of that class is usually sold for $400-500 MSRP. HID lights, LED DRLs and some other small things also cost money. I suspect at the end of day you will save on insurance rates if you get BRZ over FR-S, due to general demographic difference of customers' base.

dori. 10-14-2012 06:21 PM

it's garbage, just get something aftermarket like pioneer.

TurnOne 10-14-2012 07:21 PM

I find it to be acceptable. Works pretty well. Operates smoothly. Not perfect, but this isn't a luxury car. I'm happy with it and won't be replacing it, maybe not even if I upgrade the system.

TurnOne 10-14-2012 07:23 PM

And don't forget you can get a discount on the BRZ vs. FR-S.

_F-R-S_ 10-14-2012 07:29 PM

mine cuses at me.,,Or thats how i percieve it

SLEEPER WRX 10-14-2012 08:45 PM

I was surprised at how low the insurance increase was - I expected more
I'm insuring my previous car (WRX) and the BRZ for ~ $100 a month

Skye 10-14-2012 08:52 PM

I need advice on putting my car up for three months: how long before the battery goes dead, how often to run the engine and for how long? Change oil? Gas treatment?

cnk 10-14-2012 09:34 PM

Stabil in the gas tank, run it for 10 minutes to get it through the system. Battery tender on the battery and you should be good.

jmaryt 10-14-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobius357 (Post 496459)
There's also Hid headlights, I think they're quite nice. 'Fraid I don't know the cost of the nav unit, but really, it's nothing special. Don't use that as a deciding factor. It's really the sum of the small differences that defines the BRZ. I'm sure someone else with more knowledge in this area can give you a good cost estimate.

can you elaborate on the small differences,assuming there is more than what you described?..thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by avp1 (Post 496471)
Navigation unit of that class is usually sold for $400-500 MSRP. HID lights, LED DRLs and some other small things also cost money. I suspect at the end of day you will save on insurance rates if you get BRZ over FR-S, due to general demographic difference of customers' base.

in your opinion,would you say there is more than $800.00 worth of differences?
also,can you be more specific on what benefit from an insurance perspective,you are referring to, by living in a different location?
i'm a little confused by that!..thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurnOne (Post 496615)
And don't forget you can get a discount on the BRZ vs. FR-S.

yes! i got one lined up for $1,000.00 off m.s.r.p. but it isn't "true "invoice"
as actual invoice is around $24,317.00,so 25,317.00 to me. on a $26,317.00 car. i believe the difference in money is attributed to the "nav" head unit on the premium model,and the hid headlights,and l.e.d drl's too! the difference to me is around $800.00 more out the door! i guess i wonder if this is a good deal! kinda curious! thanks!

WRXGuy1 10-14-2012 10:16 PM

I'd say it's definitely worth the premium to get the BRZ over the FR-S. A few of the things are personal opinion, such as the different front bumper, different seat material, different seat stitching, different dash panel texture, etc. Most agree though that the BRZ has much better designed headlights and DRL's over the FR-S, as well as HID's, and factory navigation.

Personally, it's these subtle differences in the BRZ that really make this car what it was designed to be.

TurnOne 10-14-2012 10:31 PM

A $1000 discount is great at this time. A few dealers are marking them up. Many are holding to list price. I was able to get $600 off and felt great about that.

The BRZ vs. FR-S major differences as already noted: HID's, LED DRL's, XM/DIVX/NAV head unit. Throw in suspension tuning and apparently faster around a race track according to one comparison I saw posted here. I would say the Limited is even better with the upgrades for another $2K.

jmaryt 10-14-2012 10:36 PM

i hear ya! i have a deal,(if it's still available,that is) from another dealer on a frs
the difference,from a money perspective,is $800.00 more for the brz (premium).i do appreciate the subtle differences,but basically the cars are identical from all other angles,and are both made in the same factory.now,IF i could be assured the brz ,over time would be worth more from a resale perspective,then i wouldl grab the brz in a heart beat,but i just don't know that,unless i gamble, and take the plunge! so to speak! comments?..thanks!

dsgerbc 10-14-2012 10:53 PM

BRZ Nav is a point in favor of getting a Scion, if you ask me.
It annoys me quite a bit more than all my previous Subaru Navs combined.

Mochikomi 10-15-2012 11:18 AM

The HIDs alone are worth the $800, but I'm a bit biased. Even if the features were identical, I would have paid an $800 premium for the BRZ because I like the styling a bit better and I'm not too fond of having a scion badge on the car.

In reality, get whichever one you like more. $800 over the life of a car is nothing.

gily25 10-15-2012 11:40 AM

After buying the BRZ the wife like the Nav so we just put an Alpine in her Lancer. The Alpine is lightyears better than the BRZ nav unit. If I didn't already have it, I would have bought the Alpine too. If you're factoring money...we were able buy it/have it installed at a reputable shop otd for $1100.

Burrcold 10-15-2012 12:22 PM

Personally, I love all the extras that come with the BRZ Limited. But one of them was the absolute deal breaker between buying the FR-S (or the base BRZ)...the toggle switch climate control. I absolutely think it changes the look of the interior by leaps and bounds. Some may not care, but coming from a few luxury cars, it just looks so much more upscale.

BioRage 10-15-2012 01:15 PM

Keyless go
Push to start
HID
LED
LED DRL
Spoiler
Fogs

WRXGuy1 10-15-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BioRage (Post 498006)
Keyless go
Push to start
HID
LED
LED DRL
Spoiler
Fogs

Keyless, push to start, spoiler, and fogs are only on the more expensive limited model. I believe he is asking the differences between the base BRZ and FR-S.

itisthumper 10-15-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurnOne (Post 496615)
And don't forget you can get a discount on the BRZ vs. FR-S.

What discount are you referring to? I was not aware of any from Subaru. Toyota/Scion offers a $1k rebate to new grads and military personnel.

TurnOne 10-15-2012 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itisthumper (Post 498138)
What discount are you referring to? I was not aware of any from Subaru. Toyota/Scion offers a $1k rebate to new grads and military personnel.

Seeing as I am ex military, not current active duty, and I am not a recent grad, I am talking only about being able to negotiate the price of the car. Scion has that 'pure price' crap, which I translate to (we don't haggle, so everyone pays the same). Markup on scions is in line with other cars of similar pricing, so you aren't getting great deal IMO.

I got $600 off the price of the car. Paid $250 for documentation.
I was offered $1000 of of an BRZ Limited with AT.

BioRage 10-15-2012 02:37 PM

Also,

the quotes for insurance on a BRZ vs a FRS

The BRZ quotes I get save me from anywhere from $20-100 a month, just saying.

itisthumper 10-15-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurnOne (Post 498174)
Seeing as I am ex military, not current active duty, and I am not a recent grad, I am talking only about being able to negotiate the price of the car. Scion has that 'pure price' crap, which I translate to (we don't haggle, so everyone pays the same). Markup on scions is in line with other cars of similar pricing, so you aren't getting great deal IMO.

I got $600 off the price of the car. Paid $250 for documentation.
I was offered $1000 of of an BRZ Limited with AT.

Got ya.. I got also got $600 off from MSRP however I had to get mine from another state. Seems like most people (based on poll from another forum) are getting them at MSRP but if you can get it for under, that's great.

Flat Black VW 10-15-2012 04:40 PM

I have a BRZ and the nav is fine for me, atleast not worth upgrading right now, but if your buying a new one anyway just go with aftermarket, you will get a much better unit with more features for much less. I personally recommend Pioneer.

gily25 10-15-2012 04:40 PM

I really wouldn't worry about the cost difference (for me insurance ran the same)...you should touch, feel, see both cars before deciding, if you're that "on the fence." My guess is if you're even considering the numbers, you want the BRZ but you don't want to feel like a putz for paying more for what is supposed to be the "same" car. Get the one you want...haters are going to hate no matter which one you get, so what's a few thou?

Guff 10-15-2012 05:53 PM

Please do not double post threads in different sections. Keep things where they belong.

dori. 10-15-2012 06:07 PM

I guess it's fine for you guys but I find it unresponsive and it only gets signal 5% of the time, so it's basically useless to me

Mobius357 10-15-2012 08:39 PM

I think Subaru has come up with at least a stopgap fix for gps signal. A relocated antenna and updated firmware. I haven't bothered yet as gps isn't that important to me.

jmaryt 10-15-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mochikomi (Post 497781)
The HIDs alone are worth the $800, but I'm a bit biased. Even if the features were identical, I would have paid an $800 premium for the BRZ because I like the styling a bit better and I'm not too fond of having a scion badge on the car.

In reality, get whichever one you like more. $800 over the life of a car is nothing.

"$800.00 over the life of the car is nothing" excellent point! well taken! this will be the absolute "last" new car i buy,so will have it for a long time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 497884)
Personally, I love all the extras that come with the BRZ Limited. But one of them was the absolute deal breaker between buying the FR-S (or the base BRZ)...the toggle switch climate control. I absolutely think it changes the look of the interior by leaps and bounds. Some may not care, but coming from a few luxury cars, it just looks so much more upscale.

the car's interior is so small,what do you need ''climate' control " for? illogical!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gily25 (Post 497814)
After buying the BRZ the wife like the Nav so we just put an Alpine in her Lancer. The Alpine is lightyears better than the BRZ nav unit. If I didn't already have it, I would have bought the Alpine too. If you're factoring money...we were able buy it/have it installed at a reputable shop otd for $1100.

interesting! i guess these things are indeed pretty expensive! just sayin'. on a related note,i just spoke with the parts dept of a local subaru "stealership"
and they explained that the standard nav unit is $2000.00 for a body shop to buy to replace one that was damaged in an accident!. also for point of reference,
the "hid" headlights are $800.00 EACH,again IF a body shop needed to replace them from an accident!..(woow!) (w.t.f!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by itisthumper (Post 498138)
What discount are you referring to? I was not aware of any from Subaru. Toyota/Scion offers a $1k rebate to new grads and military personnel.

apparently,some dealers are willing to take $1000.00 off (subaru),however,they still are making roughly $1000.00 on the car,so maybe,others should try to get them to discount IF possible!

Burrcold 10-15-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmaryt (Post 499114)
the car's interior is so small,what do you need ''climate' control " for? illogical!

You obviously missed the fact that I said I like the "look" of the climate control in the limited much more. I don't think it needs dual zone, but the toggle switch look is much better than the cheap looking 90's Corolla knobs IMO.

jmaryt 10-15-2012 09:40 PM

i agree! my bad! that set up DOES look better in the car!. yes! the functionality
IS questionable!


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