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ANTI_LAG 10-11-2012 10:52 PM

D3PE FRS/BRZ KLR Turbo System
 
Introducing the D3 Performance FRS/BRZ KLR Turbo System:
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Our test vehicle was tested at 8.5 Psi on 93 octane and produced 301whp on a Dynojet. Was tuned on a ProEFI Pro48 ecu ran in parallel configuration.

Our kit contains the following components:
Precision Billet T3 turbo
Tial MVR 44 wastegate
Tial Q50 BOV
All D3PE aluminum IC piping w/ 4ply couplers and T-bolt clamps
D3PE intake with K&N air filter
D3PE 304L schedule 10 stainless up-pipe
D3PE 304L 2.5" Downpipe
D3PE 304L 2.5" Cat delete test pipe
D3PE Stainless oil feed and return kit
D3PE Vacuum distribution box
D3PE 600HP Intercooler (26" wide x 6.5" tall x 3.5" deep) -biggest you can fit with a bumper support-
DEI Titanium turbo blanket
DEI Titanium head wrap
D3PE Heat Sheild
D3PE FRS/BRZ plug and play 4bar map sensor
Fuel Injector Clinic EV14 550 or 650cc injectors
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
all hardware/gaskets/vacuum line
Base Tune File for EcuTek

Pricing:
D3PE KLR Turbo System - $5499.99 plus s/h (Free shipping till the end of Dec 2012)
D3PE Base Map for EcuTek - Free w/kit
EcuTek License - $300.00
EcuTek Cable - $300.00
E-Tuning of car once turbo kit is installed - $300.00
Dyno Tuning locally - $500
Installation of turbo system locally (8hrs)- $800.00

**Please note, some people already have a license or cable or both so the EcuTek is an option, also included is pricing for if you would like us to tune your vehicle over the net if you are not in the Texas surrounding areas, also is the price for a full dyno tune. We will supply a base start up map, but please be advised that every car is different, different exhausts, etc, tuning is needed after install.


Synack 10-11-2012 11:01 PM

Damn my car looks good ;)

Tansey86 10-11-2012 11:11 PM

Price and details?

Coheed 10-11-2012 11:16 PM

looks great! what turbo, and is this on stock manifold?

_F-R-S_ 10-11-2012 11:17 PM

still think 8 psi is to much unless your rebuilding the bottom end.

DriftEightSix 10-11-2012 11:18 PM

would love to see a copy of the dyno sheet with the tq!!

300hp is perfect! that is what I want!

What rpm does full boost come online?

also how is the clutch holding up?

ANTI_LAG 10-11-2012 11:19 PM

stock manifold, testing was done with 2.5" magnaflow exhaust

nix 10-11-2012 11:24 PM

That is some damn fine engineering. Not a huge fan of the turbo location and the hot pipe crossing the tb/cold pipe like that but what ya gonna do. Any pics from below?

ANTI_LAG 10-11-2012 11:27 PM

We dont have a torque reading since we were unable to get a rpm pick up we had to do pulls by mph. We did test on a mustang dyno, ill see what the numbers were on it when I get a chance.

benster 10-11-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _F-R-S_ (Post 491676)
still think 8 psi is to much unless your rebuilding the bottom end.

what experience makes you say that?
on 93 octane I believe it is a viable boost pressure considering the other kits that are pushing a lot more. Heck, my sx4 has a 10 psi turbo kit that guys have been running for over 4 years with no issues on the engine part. being a true econobox it says a lot, especially with 10.5:1 comp ratio.

now, the brz has 12.5:1, BUT, it has direct injection also, which negates some of that compression ratio since you reduce the chance of detonation. and also seeing as subaru designed this engine with the next gen impreza sti turbo set-up in mind, I'm sure it can take 8 psi no problem properly tuned. nice kit guys, any plans on a 91 tune also for ppl that don't have access to 93 or 94?

Dimman 10-11-2012 11:30 PM

Nice workmanship.

Opposed 10-11-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benster (Post 491725)
what experience makes you say that?
on 93 octane I believe it is a viable boost pressure considering the other kits that are pushing a lot more. Heck, my sx4 has a 10 psi turbo kit that guys have been running for over 4 years with no issues on the engine part. being a true econobox it says a lot, especially with 10.5:1 comp ratio.

now, the brz has 12.5:1, BUT, it has direct injection also, which negates some of that compression ratio since you reduce the chance of detonation. and also seeing as subaru designed this engine with the next gen impreza sti turbo set-up in mind, I'm sure it can take 8 psi no problem properly tuned. nice kit guys, any plans on a 91 tune also for ppl that don't have access to 93 or 94?

Agreed, Don at AP pushed over 20lbs on his daily, and Fulblown just did 521whp on 20lbs on their stock FRS...

_F-R-S_ 10-11-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benster (Post 491725)
what experience makes you say that?
on 93 octane I believe it is a viable boost pressure considering the other kits that are pushing a lot more. Heck, my sx4 has a 10 psi turbo kit that guys have been running for over 4 years with no issues on the engine part. being a true econobox it says a lot, especially with 10.5:1 comp ratio.

now, the brz has 12.5:1, BUT, it has direct injection also, which negates some of that compression ratio since you reduce the chance of detonation. and also seeing as subaru designed this engine with the next gen impreza sti turbo set-up in mind, I'm sure it can take 8 psi no problem properly tuned. nice kit guys, any plans on a 91 tune also for ppl that don't have access to 93 or 94?

the only reason they are pushing so much is to get people interested in their product. engine isnt obviously going to last that long. notice all these companys rushing to get product out thier with little testing short and longterm.

ANTI_LAG 10-11-2012 11:34 PM

Ive ran over 40psi on a 72mm with 12:1 revving to 10,500rpms on one of our cars

Aint no thang:thumbsup:

mact 10-11-2012 11:34 PM

Wow that is a sexy looking engine bay.

Jesse@JDLAutodesign 10-11-2012 11:42 PM

Looks great!

_F-R-S_ 10-11-2012 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANTI_LAG (Post 491743)
Ive ran over 40psi on a 72mm with 12:1 revving to 10,500rpms on one of our cars

Aint no thang:thumbsup:

yea ONCE

Synack 10-11-2012 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _F-R-S_ (Post 491772)
yea ONCE

I'd advise to read and become familiar about high compression motors before making any more posts about their relation to boost. You might get some unwanted heat for it.

Flat Black VW 10-11-2012 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANTI_LAG (Post 491743)
Ive ran over 40psi on a 72mm with 12:1 revving to 10,500rpms on one of our cars

Aint no thang:thumbsup:

Now that I would really like to see some pics of....

Nice kit though, looks great!

Mechazawa 10-11-2012 11:59 PM

I humbly submit that boost pressure is only valid for comparison on otherwise identical setups (turbo, intake plumbing, head, cams...). Comparing boost pressure from different compressors doesn't tell you that much. Some turbos flow a lot more at a given intake psi than others. What matters, imho, is peak combustion chamber pressure, and I don't know of a good way to measure it, although people smarter than me can calculate it with a bunch of assumptions.

Regardless, I like this turbo position, it's the first one I thought of when I started looking at pictures of the engine bay and underside of this car before you could even buy one in the US. There are of course concerns about heat, notice they have a blanket over the exhaust housing?

Would love to see some pictures of the exhaust plumbing installed.

Time and testing will tell.

It looks promising though!

mact 10-12-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANTI_LAG (Post 491743)
Ive ran over 40psi on a 72mm with 12:1 revving to 10,500rpms on one of our cars

Aint no thang:thumbsup:

Honda S2000 ?

usptwins 10-12-2012 12:35 AM

I tell you what... go look and read Don's thread about the Turbo kit build and see WHAT HE says. He is building with reliability and the consumer in mind. Im sure most of these other shops are aiming for the same thing as their reputation is on the line. We all know that high HP is nothing if you can only start it and go a mile with it then have to build it again. Good job to all these shops and their turbo "pissing match" hahahaha lol

ANTI_LAG 10-12-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _F-R-S_ (Post 491772)
yea ONCE

Nope, over and over again... I guess that's why we needed a parachute :p

os86 10-12-2012 08:48 AM

Nice piece of kit.

Any particular reason you chose the location for the turbo ?

Well done.

dcamco 10-12-2012 10:31 AM

It's great to see a local shop here. Subscribed and eagerly awaiting pricing info!

King Tut 10-12-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANTI_LAG (Post 491624)
Our test vehicle was tested at 8.5 Psi on 93 octane and produced 301whp on a Dynojet. Was tuned on a ProEFI Pro48 ecu ran in parallel configuration.

I would like more information on this parallel configuration of ProEFI.

No Limit Motorsport 10-12-2012 04:35 PM

Amazing. Work of art. Hands down visually nicest kit out there yet.

What turbo? 55/58? 58/58?

The Slow One 10-12-2012 04:47 PM

Question, would the factory braces still fit on the car with the kit? pictures show the braces removed in the engine bay, and what about a strut tower bar?

Synack 10-12-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slow One (Post 493360)
Question, would the factory braces still fit on the car with the kit? pictures show the braces removed in the engine bay, and what about a strut tower bar?

I'm glad you asked that, and I'm sure Dave (D3) is going to be happy to answer it. I'll give you a hint; stock is junk :barf:

ultra 10-12-2012 08:27 PM

Looks great in the engine bay! Love the quality of the parts. Guessing that it won't be cheap though.

Any idea what engine management they'll be selling with the kit? Same as installed here or would an ECUtek work?

Pretty crazy how many locations people have mounted turbos on these cars so far...front of the engine on top, front pf the engine on the bottom, behind the engine near the tranny, back of the car and now behind the engine on top.

:thumbsup:

Celica00 10-12-2012 09:05 PM

thank you jesus!

Tansey86 10-12-2012 09:42 PM

Anything but under the car and its a solid location for me.

usptwins 10-12-2012 11:46 PM

One more question, if this kit is still kinda developing, would you be able to incorporate a V-band flange instead of the T-3?? :D that would be pretty darn awesome!

ImAwesome 10-13-2012 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _F-R-S_ (Post 491772)
yea ONCE

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You have have zero research to back it up

_F-R-S_ 10-13-2012 11:34 PM

Im ammused.. thanks

Jeff86 10-14-2012 01:53 AM

Really excellent looking work! Great job!!

ANTI_LAG 10-15-2012 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by os86 (Post 492412)
Nice piece of kit.

Any particular reason you chose the location for the turbo ?

Well done.

We didn't want the turbo down low to run a scavenge pump as well have always had failures with them and there just a PITA. We looked into having a turbo in the front but we aren't a fan of having a turbo hot side next to the charge pipe, not knocking anyone elses kits, just not our cup of tea. So we were left with one more area, and we always liked the rotated mount kits on the subbys.


Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 493287)
I would like more information on this parallel configuration of ProEFI.

We are running the simple Pro48 box at this time, it dosent support the oem crank pickups so we made our own trigger setup, we are controlling the port injectors, ignition coils DBW and boost controller with it. We also use oil pressure and fuel pressure sensors. If the fuel pressure drops a within a set limit it will correct the AF, if it drops past that it will turn the engine completely off as a safety precaution. It uses the oil pressure sensor the same way except once it hits a pressure drop we set, it just shuts the car off to save the engine, it dosent do anything past that. This is something you will never get with the stock ecu.It also has full time closed loop control via a wideband, and has the capability's of adding a flex fuel sensor which will allow you to pump 93 or ethanol any blend together at any mixture and it will automatically change AF/timing and boost based on this. The new Pro 112 box will be released soon and will work with the oem pickups and we will have a plug and play for this. That box will also have true traction control capability's which will monitor abs sensors and when it spins past the set limit will pull ignition timing to regain control of traction, this is how they control traction on pro drag cars. We will keep the community up to date with info as it comes out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Limit Motorsport (Post 493331)
Amazing. Work of art. Hands down visually nicest kit out there yet.

What turbo? 55/58? 58/58?

Thanks, means a lot from you guys, as for turbo size we aren't releasing it yet, but it is smaller then those you listed.


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slow One (Post 493360)
Question, would the factory braces still fit on the car with the kit? pictures show the braces removed in the engine bay, and what about a strut tower bar?

No, the factory braces do not clear our turbo, however these are very poor design and cant compare to a true strut bar that bolts to the strut hats. The factory braces mount to tabs that only have 4 small spot welds. There are some struts bars on the market we haven't verified which ones clear, but if for some reason none do which I doubt it, we will release our own.



Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra (Post 493744)
Looks great in the engine bay! Love the quality of the parts. Guessing that it won't be cheap though.

Any idea what engine management they'll be selling with the kit? Same as installed here or would an ECUtek work?

Pretty crazy how many locations people have mounted turbos on these cars so far...front of the engine on top, front of the engine on the bottom, behind the engine near the tranny, back of the car and now behind the engine on top.

Thanks, as for pricing, we wont be a bare bottom cheap kit, but we are not out to take all of our customers money, we will be be competitively priced near other kits around our same quality tier, however we cannot match other kits on the market that have sub par quality.

As for tuning, we are planning on releasing the kits with EcuTek.


Quote:

Originally Posted by usptwins (Post 494042)
One more question, if this kit is still kinda developing, would you be able to incorporate a V-band flange instead of the T-3?? that would be pretty darn awesome!

Unfortunately the v-band housings dont start untill the larger turbos, we are running a turbo capable of 500whp crank but will support 450whp to the wheels. If we develop a kit for the higher horsepower numbers we will most likely go to a v-band housing to make our lives easier on the fabrication side, but 90% of the customers out there will be around this power level, this allows fun racing without puking parts out and having too much down time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff86 (Post 495738)
Really excellent looking work! Great job!!

Thanks!

JoeBoxer 10-15-2012 11:40 PM

I like the turbo placement and not having to run a scavenge pump is definitely a plus. Can't wait to see pricing and final numbers.

Synack 10-15-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANTI_LAG (Post 499261)
The new Pro 112 box will be released soon and will work with the oem pickups and we will have a plug and play for this. That box will also have true traction control capability's which will monitor abs sensors and when it spins past the set limit will pull ignition timing to regain control of traction, this is how they control traction on pro drag cars. We will keep the community up to date with info as it comes out.

I'll be upgrading to the 112 once I can round up some more $$$$

Assuming it has more features than just traction control. Maybe it'll allow us to turn off the physical light that turns the CEL on?

ANTI_LAG 10-15-2012 11:56 PM

Unfortunately the is no way to prevent check engine lights while taking over so many components from the stock ecu, the other unfortunate thing is Toyota has a bad habit of lighting up every other light when a check engine light comes on.

With that being said our kit will never be California CARB exempt and is for off road use only :burnrubber:


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