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Flat Black VW 10-10-2012 12:47 AM

Wheel Directory: VW AVUS Wheels 15x6.0 +38
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by TmP (Post 1742661)
Wheels that don't fit: VW Jetta 15x6 ET38
Wanted to use these as slide around crap ties, but they touch the caliper :(

They are the stock steel rims with 195 65 15s on 'em.
Putting one on it looked like a perfect fit, but no dice.





Test fitted my old Volkswagen 15" AVUS wheels which I will hopefully be running for the winter. Everything fit on fine, however I did not try driving it around to check for rubbing or any other issues.
The wheels are painted black so they are a bit difficult to see in the picture, but heres one anyway.

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/.../IMG_10301.jpg

DarrenDriven 10-10-2012 02:10 AM

Interesting. Can you determine the wheel width and offset?

Take a few more photos and I will add the wheels to the Wheel Directory.

Spartan65 10-10-2012 02:56 AM

I hope you found Ball seat lug nuts, the VW came with ball seat lug bolts, if you put the oem lug nuts on those wheels you could have a safety issue.

seven 10-10-2012 04:46 AM

Well this answers my question of 15in steel wheels fitting on the car for winter

Flat Black VW 10-10-2012 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan65 (Post 487365)
I hope you found Ball seat lug nuts, the VW came with ball seat lug bolts, if you put the oem lug nuts on those wheels you could have a safety issue.

That is why I haven't been able to drive around with them to fully check for rubbing issues. In the pic I had just bolted them up with the stock lugs, took some pics, and swapped them back.

dsgerbc 10-10-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan65 (Post 487365)
I hope you found Ball seat lug nuts, the VW came with ball seat lug bolts, if you put the oem lug nuts on those wheels you could have a safety issue.

If anyone knows a source for some ball-seat 12x1.25 lug nuts, I'd like to hear it.
There are some nice 16" BBS VW rims for sale nearby, and I'd love to run them during winter.

To OP: can't see squat on that pic, should've shot it from the other side.

SkAsphalt 10-10-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by seven (Post 487468)
Well this answers my question of 15in steel wheels fitting on the car for winter

very interesting....I may just have to try my corolla's 15" tires on my car after seeing this.

dsgerbc 10-10-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven (Post 487468)
Well this answers my question of 15in steel wheels fitting on the car for winter

I tried some 15x6.5 wheels and the ball-joint on the tie-rod rubbed. Some narrow 15" might work. Like 15x5.

seven 10-10-2012 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 488086)
I tried some 15x6.5 wheels and the ball-joint on the tie-rod rubbed. Some narrow 15" might work. Like 15x5.

Perhaps the offset has something to do with it?

*edit* also these are narrower... they're 15x6

hippari 10-10-2012 02:48 PM

woah good info guys! And I thought 16's were the absolute smallest we could down size to.

seven 10-10-2012 03:03 PM

Update us on the rubbing or any other issues ASAP if you can.
I have access to these wheels for basically free and would like to use them if possible. What size tires did you have on them?


jfyi the offset of Avus wheels is +38 per this site http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/w...base-5x100.htm it's a 15x6


Even more edit... Per this calc http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

Compared to the stock 17x7 with +48 offset vs the 15x6 with +38 offset.... They're should be 23mm MORE clearance inside and 3mm Retracted outside "suck"

Hopefully OP will verify but this SHOULD mean an Avus wheel is a-ok :D

dsgerbc 10-10-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven (Post 488275)
Perhaps the offset has something to do with it?

Offset was +45

Flat Black VW 10-10-2012 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc (Post 488075)
To OP: can't see squat on that pic, should've shot it from the other side.

Yeah... I only put the wheels on that one side, again it was just test fitting after drinking a few beers and getting bored. I have not driven around with these on and I wont be able to until I find some lugs that work for it. If anyone has a source please let me know.

seven 10-10-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 488633)
Yeah... I only put the wheels on that one side, again it was just test fitting after drinking a few beers and getting bored. I have not driven around with these on and I wont be able to until I find some lugs that work for it. If anyone has a source please let me know.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/3604928...Types&var=sbar

$25 and in black to match (60 degree acorn = ball-seat IIRC)

Also - http://rad-usa-direct.amazonwebstore...source=froogle = $35 in chrome

Flat Black VW 10-10-2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven (Post 488661)

those are tapered, same as Subaru OEM, the VW wheels need ball seat

seven 10-10-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 488671)
those are tapered, same as Subaru OEM, the VW wheels need ball seat

Edited the post... check the second link :)

Flat Black VW 10-10-2012 06:07 PM

Yeah I found those too, may try them although I wish they weren't chrome...

dsgerbc 10-10-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven (Post 488685)
Edited the post... check the second link :)

Those are r12, I think VW is R13.

seven 10-10-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 488738)
Yeah I found those too, may try them although I wish they weren't chrome...

center caps should cover them

Flat Black VW 10-10-2012 06:35 PM

yeah but the centercaps with those wheels have a huge VW logo on them and if you pull the logo off they look really ugly, chrome lug nuts would be better. Ill end up getting these but probably not for a few weeks till I really need to run winter tires.

seven 10-10-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 488802)
yeah but the centercaps with those wheels have a huge VW logo on them and if you pull the logo off they look really ugly, chrome lug nuts would be better. Ill end up getting these but probably not for a few weeks till I really need to run winter tires.

This is true. You could just paint over the VW logo.
I'll probably use these. My buddy owes me a favor as has a set sitting. I figure I'll use them as my favor and buy some cheap 205-60-15 snow tires.

You think those chrome nuts will work as far as the R12 vs R13 thing?

Thanks for the help and post btw

DarrenDriven 10-11-2012 01:04 PM

Added to the Wheel Directory:
http://tinyurl.com/86wheels

seven 10-11-2012 03:07 PM

I'm going to ask vwvortex about these lugs :)

7thgear 10-11-2012 03:11 PM

i don't know about you guys but i can't see shit

can you take pics of the wheels not in the shade or with a camera that can adjust for exposure?

geez, all i see is black.

dsgerbc 10-11-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 490652)
i don't know about you guys but i can't see shit

can you take pics of the wheels not in the shade or with a camera that can adjust for exposure?

geez, all i see is black.

Here you go, lol.
Don't blame me if you get a seizure.

7thgear 10-11-2012 04:26 PM

+10 stops, lol

thank you



wheels look good,

Turbo Den 10-11-2012 05:16 PM

please update this thread as you put all 4 wheels on.
I also want to use 15 inch wheels.
with a slightly different purpose.... i want 15x8 wheels with 225/45/15 Toyo R1R ... for better gearing ratio.

Flat Black VW 10-11-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Den (Post 490874)
please update this thread as you put all 4 wheels on.
I also want to use 15 inch wheels.
with a slightly different purpose.... i want 15x8 wheels with 225/45/15 Toyo R1R ... for better gearing ratio.

I will definitely update when I put these on for winter, as long as we can figure out if the lug nuts will work.

Not sure how well 15x8 will work, you will probably need a pretty crazy offset as some people were saying they had rubbing on the inside with the steering knuckle IIRC. Either way if you do it before me let us all know how they go!

Flat Black VW 10-11-2012 05:40 PM

I was doing a bit more research and found these:

http://www.brandsport.com/excl-793.html

Not sure how I feel like running something like this although if they are torqued down properly they should be fine I would think. Anyone have any experience with these?

seven 10-11-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Den (Post 490874)
please update this thread as you put all 4 wheels on.
I also want to use 15 inch wheels.
with a slightly different purpose.... i want 15x8 wheels with 225/45/15 Toyo R1R ... for better gearing ratio.

I like your style sir!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 490897)
I will definitely update when I put these on for winter, as long as we can figure out if the lug nuts will work.
Not sure how well 15x8 will work, you will probably need a pretty crazy offset as some people were saying they had rubbing on the inside with the steering knuckle IIRC. Either way if you do it before me let us all know how they go!

ditto!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 490936)
I was doing a bit more research and found these:

http://www.brandsport.com/excl-793.html

Not sure how I feel like running something like this although if they are torqued down properly they should be fine I would think. Anyone have any experience with these?

Since they're not going to be on track wheels... I'd run em. I never do more than 65-70 on the street/highway anyway. I'd just check em week to week to make sure they're tight (which I have a feeling they will be). I'm gonna pick up the Avus' this weekend and order tires and the lugs I posted. Flat Black VW and/or myself will post our findings.

Flat Black VW 10-11-2012 06:00 PM

Yeah I think im going to give these washers a shot, these will be my snow winter wheels and I have a chevy S10 that I plan to drive in the winter most of the time So im not too concerned, ill just check them whenever I go out for a drive.

seven 10-11-2012 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 490971)
Yeah I think im going to give these washers a shot, these will be my snow winter wheels and I have a chevy S10 that I plan to drive in the winter most of the time So im not too concerned, ill just check them whenever I go out for a drive.

Keep a tq wrench/breaker bar with a lug socket in the trunk... Not hard haha.

Spartan65 10-11-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 490936)
I was doing a bit more research and found these:

http://www.brandsport.com/excl-793.html

Not sure how I feel like running something like this although if they are torqued down properly they should be fine I would think. Anyone have any experience with these?

These should work, the only thing I would do if I was using them is count how many turns the lug has with out them and then count how many with them. If you lose more than seven turns that's close to 1/2 inch of stud loss. My experience with spacers would say to at this max variable I would personally worry too much about the safety.

dareo 10-13-2012 12:09 AM

I now want an FRS even more knowing it can share VW wheels. I have the 16" bbs on my TDI and they are sweet wheels. Very light and strong. Kinda sucks having good running paid off older cars...no justifiable reason to get an FRS yet!

dsgerbc 10-13-2012 12:48 AM

Interesting washers. Hm. Makes me want to try to test-fit some VW wheels for sale locally.
Radius still seems to be off VW spec.
Would still prefer proper lugs, but couldn't find any.

seven 10-16-2012 04:53 AM

Picked these up this weekend :) Ready for paint/plasti dip...
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...14312611_n.jpg

seven 11-05-2012 05:22 AM

Update.... Bought the adaptors for the lugs and the wheels/tires (as previously) mentioned...

It all works fine :)

seven 11-05-2012 02:28 PM

Pic of mine installed, they were plasti-dipped black with silver metalizer. Sadly its to overcast to see it very well. They look like a dark charcoal metallic. Camera phone quality too :-/
http://i.imgur.com/bxYUx.jpg

Turbo Den 11-05-2012 03:03 PM

Like !

Flat Black VW 11-05-2012 04:11 PM

glad to see it worked for you! Looking forward to getting mine on there.

Any rubbing issues while driving?


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