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Vladror 09-27-2012 09:09 AM

the twins side by side
 
I went to Subaru this morning to have a look at the first BRZs in the country
of course i parked my 86 next to it and the subaru guys were taking pics too :)

in SA, the BRZ is identical to the high spec 86, apart from the little boot spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/Jyyowl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3rKnVl.jpg

PREDATOR786 09-28-2012 10:57 AM

Looking sweet, bru!

HellBoy 86 09-29-2012 10:06 AM

Blue looks so sweet.:thanks: thanx for the pics bru. Is the interior also semi leather with alcantara? does the alcantara come in red? whats the price of the brz ?

Vladror 09-29-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HellBoy 86 (Post 466995)
Blue looks so sweet.:thanks: thanx for the pics bru. Is the interior also semi leather with alcantara? does the alcantara come in red? whats the price of the brz ?

the one i saw the interior is identical to the high 86, including the crappy basic radio. the price is 40-50K over the high spec 86 but apparently the maintenance plan will be better. But i guess you will pay a premium for the subaru badge and scarcity. For the same price, i'd get a subaru, but i wasn't going to wait for it and i wouldn't pay that much of a premium, given that it's essentially the same car.

HellBoy 86 09-29-2012 11:51 AM

@Vladror well for 40-50k is a full trd kit, a nice set of rims and an exhaust upgrade. Im gna stick to the high spec 86. does the high spec come with the red alcantara like some pics iv seen on the forum:iono: , iv only seen the standard model in sa.

chandz05 09-29-2012 12:17 PM

damn, up here the low spec BRZ comes with much better standard features than the single spec "Scion" 86. and its only about $2k more

Vladror 09-30-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HellBoy 86 (Post 467102)
@Vladror does the high spec come with the red alcantara like some pics iv seen on the forum:iono: , iv only seen the standard model in sa.

it has the alcantara seats, but not in red like the standard, it's black/grey with red stitching

Vladror 09-30-2012 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chandz05 (Post 467132)
damn, up here the low spec BRZ comes with much better standard features than the single spec "Scion" 86. and its only about $2k more

in SA, there's only one spec BRZ, which is somewhere beween the basic and the limited spec in the US as far as i know. I think the only thing missing in the SA version is the touch radio, otherwise it would be like the limited.
But yes, i think we pay about 50% more for our cars than the US...

HellBoy 86 09-30-2012 09:32 AM

@Vladror thanx for the info - wonder if toyota will do a request for red alcantera- afterall we still have to wait for them to arrive from Japan. @chandz we pay so much more for cars here and then we have to sell our kids to pay for fuel lmao not that i have any but if i did, well we can negotiate myb buy 1 get 1 free.. jus playn..:slap:

brian_c_m 10-04-2012 04:16 AM

Thanks for the pic! That blue is such a nice match for the car :-D Think I'm gonna call up some dealers here in JHB to find out if they have any models yet to view. Pity about the premium since like you say, it's essentially the same car but I guess there will be buyers looking for the scarcity factor.

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does the high spec come with the red alcantara
I think high spec only comes in black but imo the black looks far nicer than the red and it was one of the reasons I went for my high spec. red looks a bit tacky and more prone to showing dirt. But if it's your thing then go for it ;)

GeeTee86 10-15-2012 04:30 AM

Very nice!

Adam86 04-29-2013 05:24 AM

i have the exact same pic plus my 86 is dark grey aswell lol

sav 04-29-2013 06:15 AM

Nice pics, thanks.

To be honest, it almost looks like Subaru changed the bumper only for the sake of being different. 86's Bumper looks much more aggressive and follows the rest of the lines better. A more balanced design if that makes sense?

BRZ also got a different and awesome sounding exhaust BTW so the main differences are exhaust + boot spoiler + maintenance plan.

What is also different is the plain silver dash panels and missing white ring on the rev counter. Went for a drive in one a while back so I had a good look inside & out.

sav 04-29-2013 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by brian_c_m (Post 475629)
Thanks for the pic! That blue is such a nice match for the car :-D Think I'm gonna call up some dealers here in JHB to find out if they have any models yet to view. Pity about the premium since like you say, it's essentially the same car but I guess there will be buyers looking for the scarcity factor.


I think high spec only comes in black but imo the black looks far nicer than the red and it was one of the reasons I went for my high spec. red looks a bit tacky and more prone to showing dirt. But if it's your thing then go for it ;)

Yep, black only for SA. The Alcantara also seems to be different between std and high. Thought it was exactly the same after Kevin pointed it out but then had another look later and it does indeed seem to be different.

BRZ's blue is stunning indeed. Really love that colour.

riyal 04-29-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sav (Post 898408)
Nice pics, thanks.

To be honest, it almost looks like Subaru changed the bumper only for the sake of being different. 86's Bumper looks much more aggressive and follows the rest of the lines better. A more balanced design if that makes sense?

BRZ also got a different and awesome sounding exhaust BTW so the main differences are exhaust + boot spoiler + maintenance plan.

What is also different is the plain silver dash panels and missing white ring on the rev counter. Went for a drive in one a while back so I had a good look inside & out.

Agreed the 86 is far better looking, honestly the BRZ bumper with that lip thing just looks weird.

The BRZ exhaust sounds wicked, really brings out the goodness the engine has to offer. however its just a change in the tone of the car, no apparent power gain. yet again something "different".

That being said if the 86 looked liked the BRZ, I'd be one of the nuts that went with Toyota. I bought the 86 solely cause its the Toyota 86, the BRZ guys will most certainly be doing the same.

Anywho, after hearing a few upgrades very anxious for warranty to finish. Car has alot to offer. :)

sav 04-30-2013 01:09 AM

Yep, both awesome cars. I'd also go for the Toyota every time(200 vs +-10 dealerships) but if the bumpers were swapped I'd have a dilemma. :D

Fish Eagle 04-30-2013 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sav (Post 900733)
Yep, both awesome cars. I'd also go for the Toyota every time(200 vs +-10 dealerships) but if the bumpers were swapped I'd have a dilemma. :D

Ditto, despite being a very loyal Scooby owner, and never previously having owned a Toyota.
Number of dealerships and resale value count a lot.

BRZ exhaust is :thumbup: but the BRZ front bumper is YEECH!

GavinAnt 04-30-2013 11:26 AM

Each to his own. I preferred the front of the BRZ and the better after sales service ratings for Subaru compared to Toyota in SA so got one of the first BRZ's in SA on 25 March, even though I have a Prado and the 86 Hi I ordered would have been delivered a week earlier than my BRZ in the end.

There are other differences - BRZ dash inserts are silver, she has Zennon lights and a sports exhaust, and I liked the full maintenance plan too.

Otherwise, they are twins so we're all lucky to have such great cars!

Fish Eagle 04-30-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GavinAnt (Post 901304)
<snip> better after sales service ratings for Subaru <snip>

Respect, you're 100% right.
Maybe I've still got some nasty surprises ahead with Toyota - dunno? :iono:

When my Subaru Forester was 8 years old (XT = self-levelling suspension), I had to replace the rear shocks. No sweat, it had been abused, done a lot of very rough roads and offroad work, and shock replacement was no surprise. But one of the new shocks failed after about a year. To cut a long story short, on my request Subaru agreed to convert it to standard shocks (non-self-levelling), and did the conversion plus provided new standard shocks at no cost to me. That level of care for a 9 year old vehicle was amazing, and it's still going strong, still being seriously abused, and still much loved. :w00t:

wmaz 04-30-2013 12:55 PM

Thanks for the pics!

That blue looks great! is it the same blue as the 86? or is the 86 blue darker?
never saw one in real live.

Vladror 04-30-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wmaz (Post 901516)
Thanks for the pics!

That blue looks great! is it the same blue as the 86? or is the 86 blue darker?
never saw one in real live.

it's a colour specific to the BRZ, the 86 blue is darker.

wmaz 05-01-2013 04:27 AM

Aha, I love the Subaru blue! The 86 blue is too dark for my liking from what I could see on pics.
I had a Rav4 in that blue some 10 years ago and still love the colour!

Fish Eagle 05-01-2013 08:30 AM

Close to my home, there's normally a blue WRX (his) and a blue GT86 (hers) parked together in their driveway. The colour difference is very apparant when the two are next to each other. The Toyota blue is nice, but it's quite a bit darker and sort-of duller. The Subaru WRB is amazing!!

Nik27 05-01-2013 04:01 PM

It is a much better blue than toyota's, but the 86 blue is still a pretty classy colour... If I had the choice though, WRB definitely...

Ryan86 05-01-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nik27 (Post 904577)
It is a much better blue than toyota's, but the 86 blue is still a pretty classy colour... If I had the choice though, WRB definitely...

@Nik27 Where are you hiding this,Blue of yours, come meet up with us in Hillcrest
Got white, Red, Silver, Orange so far.

Nik27 05-02-2013 05:33 PM

@Ryan86 I'm afraid to say after 8 months of waiting, my car still hasn't even arrived yet :(... I saw the car in blue and fell in love. I decided that I would wait however long it takes... Delivery date confirmed for end of June, so I will meet up soon :) I hope...

Jer86 05-08-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan86 (Post 904604)
@Nik27 Where are you hiding this,Blue of yours, come meet up with us in Hillcrest
Got white, Red, Silver, Orange so far.

Hey Ryan, when & where do you guys meet in Hillcrest? I have my 86 for 2 months exactly today but dont know if we have a club, get together , breafast run in Durban like the guys in CT do? please let me know.


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