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Great read thanks for sharing. It sounds like the production version will come with ADVICS brakes and race tuned suspension standard??

This is my favorite line: "Toyota said that the auto market has become so focused on being green, eco-friendly and saving baby hummingbirds that they forgot some people like to keep their heart beating when they drive a car"... I hope other car manufacturers start to see this too! Too many have forgot that cars aren't just about getting from point A to B but can also be about having fun.

Im seriously sick of 'green'. Its not that I hate the planet or anything, but I will never own a hybrid :)

Hope Toyota offers multiple level packages like the Genesis and 370z. Something for everyone. Just keep the base trim car's price low.

Everyone compares this car to the genesis coupe so my question is anyone know how well the genesis coupe has sold so far (either models)? Seems like there was soooo much hype around that car before it came out and then just not that much anymore.

Word.... companies are going off the deepend too in making hybrid 'sports cars' now like the CRZ. That thing is doomed.

Ironically, I bet this car will get good fuel economy so it keeps up with the green but also it's going to be sporty.

That's the thing that I keep thinking... The MCS gets 36mpg on the highway because it has a relatively efficient engine, has a 6sp transmission and it only weighs ~2600lbs. If Toyota follows that same strategy of 2600lbs, TALL gearing at the top end, and a 6sp manual it'll get at least 36mpg, possibly more.

If toyota builds this thing right, the Genesis coupe wont even be competition. It'll be the same price range but like 500 pounds heavier!

+a turbo whould be better

A turbo'd 1.6 putting out 200hp or a 1.4t putting out 180hp would've been better. Anyone looking for a 300hp 370z killer for $20k is delusional...

this engine also seems to rev to 7.5k based on the concept pictures.

i can deal with 30k+ if its a ej25 turbo
this car whould be perfect

I know what you mean. I'm all for saving the planet and all that, but I enjoy driving. Therefore, I want a car that's actually fun to drive... and most hybrids are anything but fun. It's good to see that cars like this are making a come back. We need more rwd, 4/2+2 seaters on the market.

If I could afford 2 cars, then sure, I'd rock a Prius during the week (my job is 40mins away from where I live) and then roll in the 86 during the weekends and stuff. But since that's not the case, I'd rather spend my money on something that will truly make me happy.

You say that now but I bet it will be almost impossible to go from the 86 to a prius every week :) :)

I plan on DDing my 86

My guess would be that there will be at least two trim levels. An SR5 with the NA 2.0 making 180-200hp and a GTS with a Turbo 2.0 making 250-275hp. Options would probably be sport tuned suspensios, ADVICS brakes, LSD, and TRD goodies. I would go with the NA version, personally. I'm not a big fan of turbos.

Then look into STI's. I'm betting that Subie gonna do it EJ25 Turbo AWD (3 well known features in Subie lol).

That's my debate for me. Just say you're right & they release 2 basic options: SR-5 (NA) & GTS (Turbo). Now, I love to have NA to do some fun summer canyon runs. At the same time, when I go to track I want some Turbo to make Z, Genesis & other expensive cars to run for their money... Hard decision.

That's true but I would rather not complicate things going turbo. I'm afraid of going overboard with all the upgrades not to mention cooling issues. I'd rather keep things simple with NA and a few mods. Most of the serious mods will go to the suspension. But I understand. I'm sure if I go NA every time I see a Turbo FT I will second guess my choice.

I haven't heard or seen much overheat with H4 engine, so overheating isn't a concern.

Yeah, I'll be workin' on when I buy this car will be the suspension set up too. My main issue is to make this car into weekend/track car or DD car. Having FR car in snowing winter and DD here gonna be nightmare.

a 2.5L turbo would make this thing rather nose heavy, and possibly close to 2900 lbs; but still would fly i bet
now i could see a 2.0 turbo for the subie, that would be sweet i bet; 220 hp in a 26-2700 lb package

ichitaka05,

I've been driving a miata year round for the last couple years, from northern Iowa clear up to Duluth, MN. and with snow tires on all four corners, it was great fun every time it snowed. You can drift around every corner with no real danger - no squealing tires, no speeding tickets, no bald tires - not too shabby. There was only one time where we got dumped on and I had to go to work before the plows went through that driving the miata had major drawbacks, but even then anything that wasn't 4x4 and had 8" clearance was having major issues.

Moral of the story, if you have crap tires, it doesn't matter what wheels you spin...

N.A.

IDK, GC8 was around 2800 lbs. Yeah, I know it's 2L Turbo, but it's AWD, I'm guessing half a liter is lighter than full AWD tran. I'm guess when Subie's STI coupe (2.5L Turbo) comes out it'll weight 2830~2890 lbs.