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-   -   Anyone else not satisfied with red interior lights... (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17914)

Longhorn248 09-21-2012 06:04 PM
Full Blue LED Interior Conversion
 
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More pics on page 2.

wallace03 09-21-2012 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 453645)
There is a better way...
Nice. More pics? Did you do this yourself? How much?

Ranatsu 09-21-2012 06:40 PM
except that red is much better for night vision :p

lbroskee 09-22-2012 12:13 PM
o id love to no how you did that

Lee358 09-22-2012 12:33 PM
Writeup!!

Acree 09-22-2012 04:55 PM
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I'll just leave this right here...

enjoi23 09-22-2012 05:08 PM
I want to change mine to purple

DaJo 09-22-2012 05:08 PM
Looks good; personally I would probably went with a white light instead...

VSGTS14 09-22-2012 05:11 PM
the damn fr-s has red and orange and white. toyota is dumb. i want all red. who did it for you? or did you? i know most of them are SMDs that just need to be swapped out.

Cheddar 09-22-2012 08:03 PM
replace all with colored LEDs.....

Longhorn248 09-22-2012 08:15 PM
Better pictures coming in a couple days.

frogglez 09-22-2012 09:53 PM
More pics and writeup needed!!

DaJo 09-22-2012 10:20 PM
I also wish the trunk button in the cabin lit up... At night can't see sh*t, so my finger just wonders around trying to find that damn button...

wallace03 09-22-2012 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Acree (Post 454776)
I'll just leave this right here...
I want something similar to this, but with white needles and a darker blue.

Wes 09-22-2012 11:18 PM
well thats pretty cool, but now it conflicts with the red stitching.. but then again i like the red lights

GaN-MaN 09-23-2012 01:52 AM
I would personally use white SMD's instead and use clear colored vinyl on the bits I want colored. It'd have a better effect across the board IMO.

cantaloupe 09-23-2012 06:31 AM
Okay, the blue looks cool. Write up please thanks!

Acree 09-23-2012 09:59 PM
These pictures are from an iPhone 5. The color you see isn't the true blue. It's a deep rich blue in person. Hopefully the better pictures will show this.

-Acree

whitefrs 09-23-2012 10:04 PM
i want mine all white

xcelir8brz 09-23-2012 10:13 PM
You must have been bored. Original though. I like it!

Stu L Tissimus 09-24-2012 01:12 AM
With blue light you'll be desensitizing your night vision cells (rods) a bit, just be forewarned.

Longhorn248 09-24-2012 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu L Tissimus (Post 456638)
With blue light you'll be desensitizing your night vision cells (rods) a bit, just be forewarned.
This is actually somewhat of a myth. Night vision is impacted mainly by light intensity. Since the car has a dimming feature a comfortable level can be set that will minimally affect night vision while still allowing you to see the gauges. The main reason the red myth persists is that it takes a much more intense red light to be seen as bright as a blue light, so if both are set at the same perceived intensity the blue will be worse for your night vision. While it is true that red and blue affect different parts of the eye (cones vs rods) the most up to date research suggests that a low level blue/green light will be the best color for you to preserve overall night vision.

Disclaimer: If I go night blind and crash feel free to say, "I told you so".

Acree 09-24-2012 01:35 PM
They've been using green/red lighting in military applications for decades. It is true that blue light doesn't "enhance" night vision, but at moderate levels, it certainly does not degrade night vision.

-Acree

Longhorn248 10-01-2012 01:45 AM
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Unfortunately using longer exposure times with the camera the color is coming out a bit more turquoise than it looks in reality. I'm not sure if this has to do with the wavelengths of the LEDs and what the camera sensor is picking up, but they definitely have more of a blue tint to them in person (much closer to the teaser pic in the first post.

R2RO 10-01-2012 02:22 AM
You have to make a write up haha, looks really great man.
Props on being original :D

deedz 10-01-2012 03:55 AM
agreed! must do a diy please :bow:

Furtive 10-01-2012 04:15 AM
seems like alot of de soldering and soldering. im up for it XD

EN2_Squirrel 10-01-2012 06:16 AM
When out to sea(navy, uss carl vinson) we use red lights after sunset. I have been out in our small boat(7m rhib)at night middle of ocean. hard to see red except when close.

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TuxedoCartman 10-01-2012 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by deedzman (Post 469450)
agreed! must do a diy please :bow:
Agreed! I've just recently learned to solder, and have done some decently small electrical projects, so I'd love to see if this is something within my capability of doing.

And screw the whole "red is best for night vision" argument; blue and white lights on a car interior are ALL teh sexy!!! :clap:

bobpuffer 10-01-2012 01:58 PM
Being so many people have asked how this was done or for a writeup and I can't find anything in the thread that brings that forth, I'm starting to wonder if this is a photoshop job.

VSGTS14 10-01-2012 03:40 PM
it's not photoshop, it's real and he needs to make a write up of how to and supplies and where to buy!

Nitesh31 10-01-2012 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 457119)
This is actually somewhat of a myth. Night vision is impacted mainly by light intensity. Since the car has a dimming feature a comfortable level can be set that will minimally affect night vision while still allowing you to see the gauges. The main reason the red myth persists is that it takes a much more intense red light to be seen as bright as a blue light, so if both are set at the same perceived intensity the blue will be worse for your night vision. While it is true that red and blue affect different parts of the eye (cones vs rods) the most up to date research suggests that a low level blue/green light will be the best color for you to preserve overall night vision.

Disclaimer: If I go night blind and crash feel free to say, "I told you so".
Not entirely true. Red and blue lights do not affect different parts of they eye. They both primarily activate cone receptors. But, the photopigment rhodopsin present in rod cells that are active during scotopic vision (in low light) are less sensitive to the longer wavelengths of red light compared to other colors. Red depletes the rhodopsin concentration reserve less and preserves the ability to see in dim light.

But really the differences aren't significant. The blue lights look cool so keep them. Just adjust them to a brightness you feel comfortable with and everything should be good.

Luke.Cariveau 10-01-2012 05:45 PM
A DIY guide would be wonderful, I'm sure many people would enjoy customizing their 86 with a myriad of colors!
(and the in-depth discussion about how the eye reacts to color is a tad bit off topic)

SSchifko 10-01-2012 06:45 PM
+1
Thanks!
Must have taken some work, but it looks great!
I think the red interior lights were my only negative thing to say about the car.

Definitely going to be one of my first projects. Didn't want to start into it and find out I couldn't do it. But you have proved that it can be done.

Jonwi5 10-01-2012 06:54 PM
Yes Please a DIY, this is one of the things that caught mine attention. Not fan of the red color.

Longhorn248 10-01-2012 09:03 PM
I didn't actually do the conversion myself. Another member who's already posting in this thread, @Acree is the guy responsible. He's done conversions on over 50 different vehicles and mine was the first BRZ that he got his hands on.

It's a pretty intensive process to tackle the whole project, but I'll let him chime in with what he plans to do with regards to a write up, as well as DIY kits, and retrofitting services.

wallace03 10-01-2012 09:12 PM
Is he located in ATX? i wouldn't mind driving up there when i get my car in if the price is reasonable.

Furtive 10-02-2012 12:03 AM
I believe theres a DIY for the clock somewhere in the forums.. I would imagine its the same process, just a lot more soldering LOL

RedRocket 10-02-2012 01:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Longhorn248 (Post 457119)
This is actually somewhat of a myth. Night vision is impacted mainly by light intensity. Since the car has a dimming feature a comfortable level can be set that will minimally affect night vision while still allowing you to see the gauges. The main reason the red myth persists is that it takes a much more intense red light to be seen as bright as a blue light, so if both are set at the same perceived intensity the blue will be worse for your night vision. While it is true that red and blue affect different parts of the eye (cones vs rods) the most up to date research suggests that a low level blue/green light will be the best color for you to preserve overall night vision.

Disclaimer: If I go night blind and crash feel free to say, "I told you so".

It's NOT a myth. Red light waves are the longest waves and affect the rods in your eyes less then a shorter wave lenght(Blue being the shortest). Theres a good reason why the helm of a ship has red lights, and aircraft have red lights for night. Think its a Myth? Get a Red Light and Blue Light go into a dark room, take 5 minutes in a dark room then flash yourself with blue lights and try to see after you turn the light out... then do it again with red..

Doesn't mean that the blue doesn't look SWEET!!!

My FRS is red, but I would love to get rid of the crappy ORANGE and maybe go with a DEEPER red...

rmjjensen 10-02-2012 11:35 AM
I'm curious, what the trick was to remove the gauge needles?


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